Joy Holdread on wed 4 aug 99
A friend is developing a web page for me.
Should he ask permission of anyone he would like to list as a link?
Other than vanity has anyone had good sales or received good commissions
from their web page?
I'm totally in the dark here, are basic good places to be listed?
Has anyone worked with their galleries web pages, how does that work?
Joy
BigDog on fri 6 aug 99
Linking is something that benefits everybody unless it is linking in to just
content and not the site itself (that could be called "borrowing" or
"stealing" depending on the site's frame of mind. If you are just linking
TO a site, ask for a reciprical link to your site. The more exposure you
can get for your site, the better.
My two cents. Worth EXACTLY two cents.
-----Original Message-----
From: Joy Holdread
To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Date: Wednesday, August 04, 1999 11:35 AM
Subject: Web page manners
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>A friend is developing a web page for me.
> Should he ask permission of anyone he would like to list as a link?
> Other than vanity has anyone had good sales or received good commissions
>from their web page?
> I'm totally in the dark here, are basic good places to be listed?
> Has anyone worked with their galleries web pages, how does that work?
> Joy
Ray Aldridge on fri 6 aug 99
At 11:32 AM 8/4/99 EDT, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>A friend is developing a web page for me.
> Should he ask permission of anyone he would like to list as a link?
Generally, no. The Web is a public place, and this is functionally similar
to pointing a finger and saying, "go that way to see this." Most web
masters will be pleased that someone has linked to them, (unless the link
is featured on suck.com as an example of horrible web design-- and even
then there's nothing they can do about it.) An exception to this general
rule can be seen in the recently announced site, eglaze.com, which had a
listing of "articles," which did not make clear that these were simply
links to content developed on other sites. Another exception is linking to
graphics on someone else's site, and displaying them as though they were
your own. A huge no-no, because you're banging the other guy's server as
well as stealing his creative work. It's also dangerous to your dignity,
because the webmaster will notice, and might reassign the name of the
graphic file to an image that says something like "I'm an image-thieving
moron," which will then appear on your page the next time someone visits.
My advice to someone setting up links is to avoid "naked link list"
syndrome, and say a bit about each link, so that visitors to your site can
tell if they'd be interested in visiting the linked site. If what you say
is complimentary, hardly anyone will be offended.
Finally, do *not* write to the site you've linked and demand a reciprocal
link. It's okay to say you've linked and ask the webmaster to take a look
at your site, if she gets the chance.
You can find lots of good advice on the web if you look. Try:
http://1x.com/advisor/
Ray
Jeff & Melanie Boock on fri 6 aug 99
Joy,
I currently design websites for a living, as I try to decide whether
to put my cinder blocks upright or on their sides under the salt kiln
I am building, but that's neither here nor there as we deal with your
questions.
As for the links question, link to anybody you want, they will
appreciate the free traffic to their website. However, don't expect a
reciprocal link from their site, if you get one great, but it doesn't
really seem to work that way (at least not with our clients.)
As for the sales, I have sold some pots off a website I published
after completing undergrad. Wasn't the intention of the site though,
so I can't really judge it on those merits.
As for the listings, register your site with every search engine
possible (within your timeframe), make sure your META tags are
complete before you do it.
Haven't worked with any gallery sites, so can't help you there.
Good luck, and let me know if you have more questions.
Jeff Boock
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>A friend is developing a web page for me.
> Should he ask permission of anyone he would like to list as a link?
> Other than vanity has anyone had good sales or received good commissions
>from their web page?
> I'm totally in the dark here, are basic good places to be listed?
> Has anyone worked with their galleries web pages, how does that work?
> Joy
Katie Cordrey on sat 7 aug 99
Joy
I always email links I place on my pages letting them know I've linked to
them, inviting them to link to me and offering to remove the link if they'd
prefer it not be on my page. Most of the time, people are pleased you've
listed them and often reciprocate with a link. No one has ever asked me to
remove their link.
Katie
-----Original Message-----
From: Ceramic Arts Discussion List [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU]On Behalf
Of Joy Holdread
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 1999 8:32 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Subject: Web page manners
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
A friend is developing a web page for me.
Should he ask permission of anyone he would like to list as a link?
Other than vanity has anyone had good sales or received good commissions
from their web page?
I'm totally in the dark here, are basic good places to be listed?
Has anyone worked with their galleries web pages, how does that work?
Joy
Gavin Stairs on sat 7 aug 99
At 11:32 AM 04/08/99 , you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>A friend is developing a web page for me.
> Should he ask permission of anyone he would like to list as a link?
Linking to other pages is often done without permission, but some pages
actually encourage this by providing link buttons and graphics for use on
the linking page. In this case, a simple agreement may be requested for
permission to use these tools. Also, when linking it is often useful to
exchange links. In this case you will want to get in touch with the owner
of the page to which you are linking, in order to ask them for a reciprocal
link. This will not always be granted, but the more links you can place
pointing to your page, the more hits you can expect. This is how a page is
most easily publicized beyond you own circle. The most competition for
link space is on the high traffic pages of the web search services. They
often have application forms available to request being listed. Expect
considerable delays, and don't be too disappointed if you don't get
linked. It is probably best to wait for this until you have a really nice
web site up and running.
Gavin
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