Joyce Lee on tue 24 aug 99
California has problems, true; and has too many people, true....but
that's a wide brush dipped in a pot of ignorance you use when writing
off ALL of California.....from the Mexican border, San Diego, L.A., the
Mojave desert, the gold country, SanFran, all the towns of the Sierras,
Death Valley, Mt. Whitney, the hundreds of lakes and small lake
communities, the northern and southern beaches....don't really want more
people (until I meet them, that is, then want all of them)......but am
offended that no clayarter defends this position. What if we said this
about the Dakotas, the unbelievably stressed east coast, Oregon with its
cockamamie laws and total arrogance about Californians (until they meet
us, that is, then they're very cool).....guess it's just part of the
package of being one of the "golden people," that everybody feels they
can publicly make rude statements about a whole state's worth of
individuals. Each of us can only speak from our own experiences, but my
experience is pretty vast and I know a ton of extremely community-minded
people/artists/potters. Shame on you.
Joyce
In the Mojave
Marcia Selsor on thu 26 aug 99
Dear Joyce,
I missed the first part of this, but just recently got back from CA
after Sierra Nevada workshop. My in-laws are there. Visited a beautiful
show Art in Craft at the De Young museum and also Arts and Crafts
movement at Stanford as well as the whole museum. Then on the way home
went up the through the Redwoods and into Oregon to Crater Lake..
Had planned to camp along the coast but "no vacancy" at state
campgrounds in Or. .
I have to admit coming from the East coast originally, that the wide
open spaces of Montana are appealing, but we don't get shows like these
in Montana. We are having a Robert Morris Glass show in November at the
Yellowstone Art Museum.
We have many, many Californians (and others) moving to Montana. We have
bumper stickers that say "don't Californicate Montana." Sorry, Joyce but
some people are rude and they aren't confined to CA. We had tee-shirts
during the Unibomber and freeman episodes that read" Montana, at least
our cows are sane " (remember mad cow disease? The state population is
growing rapidly (as is the world's) . -impacts are rising housing costs,
higher taxes, more sophisticated population bringing better availability
in the grocery stores. 25 years ago wine vinegar was
possibly available in the gormet section of the store and a clerk didn.t
know what broccali was (no joke).
California has some beautiful spots.
Marcia in Montana
Joyce Lee wrote:
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> California has problems, true; and has too many people, true....but
> that's a wide brush dipped in a pot of ignorance you use when writing
> off ALL of California.....from the Mexican border, San Diego, L.A., the
> Mojave desert, the gold country, SanFran, all the towns of the Sierras,
> Death Valley, Mt. Whitney, the hundreds of lakes and small lake
> communities, the northern and southern beaches....don't really want more
> people (until I meet them, that is, then want all of them)......but am
> offended that no clayarter defends this position. What if we said this
> about the Dakotas, the unbelievably stressed east coast, Oregon with its
> cockamamie laws and total arrogance about Californians (until they meet
> us, that is, then they're very cool).....guess it's just part of the
> package of being one of the "golden people," that everybody feels they
> can publicly make rude statements about a whole state's worth of
> individuals. Each of us can only speak from our own experiences, but my
> experience is pretty vast and I know a ton of extremely community-minded
> people/artists/potters. Shame on you.
>
> Joyce
> In the Mojave
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