zahidi neale on thu 26 aug 99
Dear friends,
I have recently met a fiber artist who does very high quality work. She has
asked me to create some bases, handles and collars for her sculptural
baskets. Scoff not, kids, this stuff is tough. I am honored she asked me.
Besides, she is totally open to creativity.
My question:
Any one have experience with entering mixed media work in shows with two
artists involved? How do you list/fill out the forms/ split entry fees? What
are the legal ramifications of copyright? Any of you had this kind of
partnership before and how did you work out the business arrangement? She
is a person I trust, but I am anal enough that I always have everything in
writing so there is not a confusion later on.
TIA. Zee in LA on the swamp.
Janet Kaiser on fri 27 aug 99
>Dear friends,
>
>I have recently met a fiber artist who does very high quality work. She has
>asked me to create some bases, handles and collars for her sculptural
>baskets. Scoff not, kids, this stuff is tough. I am honored she asked me.
>Besides, she is totally open to creativity.
>
>My question:
>Any one have experience with entering mixed media work in shows with two
>artists involved? How do you list/fill out the forms/ split entry fees?
What
>are the legal ramifications of copyright? Any of you had this kind of
>partnership before and how did you work out the business arrangement? She
>is a person I trust, but I am anal enough that I always have everything in
>writing so there is not a confusion later on.
>
Hi Zee,
It all depends on what exactly you are doing in this partnership. Are you
making to specifications from the textile artist/basket maker? Is she
responsible for designs, sizes, etc. and you just make to these
specifications and to order? If so, you cannot be regarded anything more
than, say, the supplier of the cane or wicker would be. You are simply a
supplier of materials and therefore have no artistic or copyright claims.
If, on the other hand, you are developing work in tandem, then you may have
some claim, but it would depend on the % of work each invests and who does
the most. It may be that the best you can expect is: Made by Named Basket
Maker (ceramic elements by Zee Ahidi).
Whoever actually originated the idea of mixing the media, does the most
significant part of the work and/or completes the item will either be the
first-named of any dual-listing (if any) or simply the only "maker" listed.
For example, we have a basket-making and potting duo who exhibit at The
CoA... They have solved the problem by simply dividing mixed media work into
either "ceramic" or "basket" depending on the amount of each element, so
although both media are involved in all the work (and labelled as such), one
or the other is cited as the maker (never both). This naturally depends on
some mutual understanding.
And the same applies to copyright. Whoever designed the original concept
owns the copyright, unless you come to a different agreement.
Submissions to shows, etc. should not be a problem even if listing both
makers, although just one should take responsibility for the paperwork, etc.
for practical reasons (phone no., address, contact name, etc.).
Galleries will probably also be keen to deal with just one maker, acting on
behalf of both... Dealing with two artists/makers can cause problems they
would sooner not have to cope with, especially if the two disagree between
themselves at any point. No gallery would want to be "piggy in the middle"
in a personal dispute.
If it becomes a serious partnership, remember to open an account so any
money paid by cheque to both can be banked and all fees can be paid out of
this reserve. Make sure the terms such as the split of income 50:50, 30:70,
10:90 etc. (depending on input) are also in the agreement you intend making
in writing.
Hope this helps?
Janet Kaiser
The Chapel of Art, Criccieth, GB-Wales
Home of The International Potters Path
WEB: http://www.the-coa.org.uk
EMAIL: postbox@the-coa.org.uk
Pamala Browne on mon 30 aug 99
Maybe I am being a little naive,but I would think that if she is paying you
ahead of time for these handles,she would not have to mention you at all.I
would not give the name of a commercial glaze if I used one.In production
potteries people do piece work and more without credit--they are paid to do
this.I have been approached to work on other peoples pots and personally I
would never do it for the main reason that I would be doing work that they
would be getting credit for. I know that this happens in production work all
the time.If you feel uncomfortable about this then definitely get it in
writing that your contribution will be acknowledged.A collaboration of ideas
is different than a "can you do these handles for me?" situation. Good Luck!
----- Original Message -----
From: zahidi neale
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Sent: Thursday, August 26, 1999 8:49 AM
Subject: mixed media/ two artists
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Dear friends,
>
> I have recently met a fiber artist who does very high quality work. She
has
> asked me to create some bases, handles and collars for her sculptural
> baskets. Scoff not, kids, this stuff is tough. I am honored she asked me.
> Besides, she is totally open to creativity.
>
> My question:
> Any one have experience with entering mixed media work in shows with two
> artists involved? How do you list/fill out the forms/ split entry fees?
What
> are the legal ramifications of copyright? Any of you had this kind of
> partnership before and how did you work out the business arrangement? She
> is a person I trust, but I am anal enough that I always have everything in
> writing so there is not a confusion later on.
>
> TIA. Zee in LA on the swamp.
>
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