John Rodgers on fri 3 sep 99
Bravo!!! Bill.
Good Grief!! You know of course that the Museum in Birmingham has one of the
most fabulous collections of Wedgewood in the entire country. Pots
extraordinaire. And it is all slipcast work. It's beautiful!! I could spend
days looking at it( an have) studying the forms of the pottery and the designs
made from pressmolds that have been attached to the pottery surfaces.
Bellingrath Gardens in Mobile, Ala. has one of the biggest private collections
of Boehm Porcelain in the world. Wonderful works of porcelain sculpture from
the studio of Edward Marshal Boehm in Trenton, New Jersey. The mold set for
his "Sugarbirds"( he was a bird fancier and had an aviary for inspiration"
weighed over 6,000 lbs. The porcelain clay pieces were cast, assembled in
place, seams and assembly points chased, and the whole thing fired without ever
being moved from where it was put together. He would move the kiln over the
assembly table instead of the other way around. When it was all done, it was
china painted and fired again.
The man created California Condors with 45 inch wingspans.....and all in
slipcast porcelain. I saw a set made up like a mosscovered tree crag with three
Ivory Billed Woodpeckers on it.....it sold for $150,000.
Nixon selected a pair of white mute swans from Boehms studio to take to China
with him as a gift to the Chinese People. What a gift...the finest porcelain
the US had at the time offered as a gift to China, where porcelain was
originated. The Chinese were thrilled.
Boehm was a sculptor........and a master craftsman caster.
It's funny, I don't think I have ever seen Boehm mentioned on this list before,
yet he was a clay person extraordinaire', and his works have been sold to
dignitaries and Kings.
I'm with you. We fret ourselves as to whether we will damage our image if we
slipcast a piece instead of throwing it.!!! Serious attitude problem here.
Doesn't speak well of us as a clay group at all.
John Rodgers
In New Mexico
Bill Aycock wrote:
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> I really do object to some of the dogmatic, Aristotelian crap being tossed
> around by the "hollier than thou, I dont cast" crowd.
>
> Some of the most desirable pots I have EVER seen were small "flasks",cast
> of porcelain, and with individually selected and created glazes.
>
> Some of you Glaze gurus try this- shop for hand cut and finished "Cabs" of
> semi-precious stone- select a vase or flask you have designed and cast in
> your own molds- (has to have a neck that will match the Cab after glazing
> and firing.) From the library of glazes you have created, choose one to
> match the color of the Stone.
>
> Cast the vase in porcelain- fire- glaze- fire again (^10)- mount the stone
> to be the top of the vase. Do this again and again.
>
> Further- start learning to do this at an age where most people have retired
> and, effectively, quit.
>
> The guy I knew , that did this very well, was a retired banker who moved to
> Asheville, got hooked on clay, and did the above- His way.
>
> Bill- obviously a little irate, on Persimmon Hill. (Some of the "ash Glaze
> is the ONLY WAY crowd are to be pitied a little, also)
> -
> Bill Aycock --- Persimmon Hill
> Woodville, Alabama, US 35776
> (in the N.E. corner of the State)
> W4BSG -- Grid EM64vr
> baycock@HiWAAY.net
> w4bsg@arrl.net
Bill Aycock on fri 3 sep 99
I really do object to some of the dogmatic, Aristotelian crap being tossed
around by the "hollier than thou, I dont cast" crowd.
Some of the most desirable pots I have EVER seen were small "flasks",cast
of porcelain, and with individually selected and created glazes.
Some of you Glaze gurus try this- shop for hand cut and finished "Cabs" of
semi-precious stone- select a vase or flask you have designed and cast in
your own molds- (has to have a neck that will match the Cab after glazing
and firing.) From the library of glazes you have created, choose one to
match the color of the Stone.
Cast the vase in porcelain- fire- glaze- fire again (^10)- mount the stone
to be the top of the vase. Do this again and again.
Further- start learning to do this at an age where most people have retired
and, effectively, quit.
The guy I knew , that did this very well, was a retired banker who moved to
Asheville, got hooked on clay, and did the above- His way.
Bill- obviously a little irate, on Persimmon Hill. (Some of the "ash Glaze
is the ONLY WAY crowd are to be pitied a little, also)
-
Bill Aycock --- Persimmon Hill
Woodville, Alabama, US 35776
(in the N.E. corner of the State)
W4BSG -- Grid EM64vr
baycock@HiWAAY.net
w4bsg@arrl.net
Ray Aldridge on tue 7 sep 99
At 01:51 PM 9/3/99 EDT, you wrote:
>
>Some of you Glaze gurus try this- shop for hand cut and finished "Cabs" of
>semi-precious stone- select a vase or flask you have designed and cast in
>your own molds- (has to have a neck that will match the Cab after glazing
>and firing.) From the library of glazes you have created, choose one to
>match the color of the Stone.
>
>Cast the vase in porcelain- fire- glaze- fire again (^10)- mount the stone
>to be the top of the vase. Do this again and again.
Hey, I used to do something like this. I spent the last few months of my
tour in the lovely vacation spot of Danang, and the air base there had an
excellent rock shop. After 12 hours at the bomb shop it was either go to
the club and get drunk, or go to the rock shop and cut cabs. When I got
home and discovered clay I had a lot of nice cabs, mostly opal but a lot of
jade, too.
A few years later I happened across a dark green celadon glaze that was
exactly the color of those jade cabs, so I threw a series of covered jars,
with carved niches for the cabs.
I still have a few of them.
Ray
James Blossom on wed 8 sep 99
Hi Ray.
Very interesting. My intro into art was at the Da Nang Lap shop. Made Opal
cabs from Aussie rock. Back in the 'world' I spent some time making
turquoise, pipe stone, serpentine, etc. jewelry at a small workshop I had in
Abiquiu NM. When were you at the "Rocket Inn" ? I spent 70-71 at the
Gunfighter Village doing weapons control on F4-E's (57th AMS 366th combat
support group)
"Da Nang is alright...
B/O the base commander "
--- sign at entrance to Gunfighter Village
Mike Blossom
-----Original Message-----
From: Ray Aldridge
To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Date: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: master craftsman caster
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
At 01:51 PM 9/3/99 EDT, you wrote:
>
>Some of you Glaze gurus try this- shop for hand cut and finished "Cabs" of
>semi-precious stone- select a vase or flask you have designed and cast in
>your own molds- (has to have a neck that will match the Cab after glazing
>and firing.) From the library of glazes you have created, choose one to
>match the color of the Stone.
>
>Cast the vase in porcelain- fire- glaze- fire again (^10)- mount the stone
>to be the top of the vase. Do this again and again.
Hey, I used to do something like this. I spent the last few months of my
tour in the lovely vacation spot of Danang, and the air base there had an
excellent rock shop. After 12 hours at the bomb shop it was either go to
the club and get drunk, or go to the rock shop and cut cabs. When I got
home and discovered clay I had a lot of nice cabs, mostly opal but a lot of
jade, too.
A few years later I happened across a dark green celadon glaze that was
exactly the color of those jade cabs, so I threw a series of covered jars,
with carved niches for the cabs.
I still have a few of them.
Ray
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