cyberscape on thu 7 oct 99
Jean,
In answer to your question, almost all pug mills are power extruders.
You can make dies to put on the end of the pug mill, or have have a
local welder make an attachment for the end of your pug mill so that the
die set and tip from a hand extruder will slip on. Then just put clay
in your pug mill and hit ON.
Harvey Sadow
Frederich, Tim on thu 10 may 01
Jim,
I have had a Bailey power extruder for about 25 years. I have had a very
positive experience with this equipment. I make my dies from !/4 inch
aluminum plate or from 3/4 inch thick plexiglas. I have had good luck with
both. I like having my hands free to handle the piece while using the pedal
to control the extruder. I found it handy for cannister sets and sculpture.
I don't get to use it much but the projects are waiting if I ever find the
time.
Best regards,
Tim
Larry Kruzan on fri 16 feb 07
Hi All,
I am considering the purchase of a Bailey power extruder for my studio and
wonder if anyone here uses one? I have a North Star extruder and it has
served well but my physical abilities dictate that I look for ways to
conserve the strength I have for what I really want to do - pushing with all
my strength on an extruder handle is just not that much fun! Because I am
in a wheelchair I have to have the extruder mounted very low in order to
have the right angle to push on the handle, with it mounted this low there
is no way to manipulate the extrusion and I can only extrude a piece about a
foot or so long. I have seen a little of the demos at NCECA and was very
impressed with its apparent ease of use, the speed of production, etc.
So my questions are;
1. Is it really that easy to use?
2. Do you find is speeds up your work?
3. Would you recommend it to your best friend?
4. Have you had any problems?
5. Which barrels, dies do you use and are there any that you don't use
after you bought them?
Thanks so much
Larry Kruzan
Lost Creek Pottery
www.lostcreekpottery.com - where the
website is a little getting better at last.
Joyce Lee on sun 18 feb 07
Larry K. asked questions about the ease , or not, of using a large
Bailey extruder.
I have the Bailey, Larry, as well as the North
Star....... bought back when #1 Support Person was purchasing
and installing any equipment he thought I might possibly be able
to use . I do find it "easy" to use and that comes from one who
is more than a little mechanically challenged. However, in conjunction
with an air compressor, it works so speedily that it scares me majorly
everytime I operate it. I'm always fearful that I'm going to blow up
the studio and me with it. Not the fault of Baileys, I hasten to add.
They are extremely helpful and always respond to my questions, to the
point of helping me figure out just what the heck IS the question in the
first place.
What I really NEED is that wonderful extruder workshop held in Texas
a couple of weeks ago. I obviously select odd times to become
financially cautious!! This was ONE workshop I really needed!! So
if you can, if you get the Bailey extruder, find a good workshop to
go with it.
More questions? Ask me or, better yet, get Bonnie Haleman on line.
She's worked out almost all the newbie extruder problems and helped
me a great deal.
Joyce
In the Mojave
Bonnie Hellman on sun 18 feb 07
Hi Larry and others,
I've spoken with a number of people who were considering the Bailey
pneumatic extruder, because I love mine. I ended up buying it after talking
with several clayarters who loved theirs.
To answer your questions:
1. Is it really that easy to use?
Bonnie's Answer-Yes, it's even easier than that to us but it'll take a
little work to set it up. I also have a NorthStar extruder, which I also
like, but there is no physical effort at all to using the Bailey pneumatic.
In fact you can extrude so much so fast that it's nice to have a de-airing
pug mill to help with recycling.
2. Do you find is speeds up your work?
Bonnie's Answer-Yes and more importantly it allows me to create some work
that I would not have the strength to create without the power assist,
probably everything made with the expansion box.
3. Would you recommend it to your best friend?
Bonnie's Answer-Yes, and I have recommended it to a number of people,
including people I speak with and email with on a regular basis.
4. Have you had any problems?
Bonnie's Answer-No problems with the Bailey pneumatic. Just remember that
it is no easier to clean up than a manual extruder, although mostly I let a
bit of clay around the edges dry out before fussing with removing it.
5. Which barrels, dies do you use and are there any that you don't use
after you bought them?
Bonnie's Answer-There are some that I didn't use for a while, and others
that I haven't used in a while. When you have the dies, you tend to use
them. (Or maybe the corollary is true that if you don't have the dies,
you don't use them. ) I use both the 4" and the expansion box.
The question you didn't ask is which of the available pieces of the Bailey
did you buy?
Bonnie's Answer-I bought the interchangeable barrels, both 4" and
expansion box, and I use them both. I also bought the barrels in stainless
steel because I have been using only white clays and didn't want to deal
with any rust that might form when painted finishes scratch and rust. I
initially didn't buy their support system and parting platform, but later
added them (which meant re-installing on my wall, moving screws, patching
holes, etc). If you can afford it, their support system and parting platform
are very nice. And don't forget to factor in the cost of a large compressor.
Bailey can tell you the minimum size, which is not small.
If your clay is coming out too fast, Joyce, you can adjust the amount of
power, i.e. pressure. You should be able to adjust it on your compressor,
and you can also adjust the dial on the extruder itself. If your clay is
coming out too slowly or not at all, you should first look at whether your
clay is soft enough, and then whether you adjusted the pressure too low.
I would like to give credit to all those people who taught me and encouraged
me, but I'm sure I'll forget half. However, Linda Blossom, Daryl Baird,
Diana Pancioli, Fred Sweet and David Hendley were important resources and
inspirational sources for me. I highly recommend Diana Pancioli and Daryl
Baird's books, and I like Tom & Jean Latka's book. I just bought David
Hendley's DVDs and hope to watch them soon. I don't remember who it was, but
the clayarter who told me on the phone that the pneumatic extruder will pay
for itself in the first firing, helped make my decision to buy mine, and
I've never been sorry. Oh yes, Jim Bailey has not paid me for this
testimonial.
Bonnie Hellman
Bonnie D. Hellman
Ouray, Colorado 81427
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Kruzan"
To:
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 5:37 PM
Subject: Power Extruder
> Hi All,
>
> I am considering the purchase of a Bailey power extruder for my studio and
> wonder if anyone here uses one? I have a North Star extruder and it has
> served well but my physical abilities dictate that I look for ways to
> conserve the strength I have for what I really want to do - pushing with
> all
> my strength on an extruder handle is just not that much fun! Because I am
> in a wheelchair I have to have the extruder mounted very low in order to
> have the right angle to push on the handle, with it mounted this low there
> is no way to manipulate the extrusion and I can only extrude a piece about
> a
> foot or so long. I have seen a little of the demos at NCECA and was very
> impressed with its apparent ease of use, the speed of production, etc.
>
>
>
> So my questions are;
>
> 1. Is it really that easy to use?
> 2. Do you find is speeds up your work?
> 3. Would you recommend it to your best friend?
> 4. Have you had any problems?
> 5. Which barrels, dies do you use and are there any that you don't
> use
> after you bought them?
>
>
>
> Thanks so much
>
> Larry Kruzan
>
> Lost Creek Pottery
>
> www.lostcreekpottery.com - where the
> website is a little getting better at last.
>
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