Beth Yeatman Spindler on mon 11 oct 99
That's the only way to describe the noise I am hearing from my
wheel........it has been moved around a lot lately in my "just opened"
pottery/collectibles shop. What have I done???? The noise is really
irritating after a while... and yes, I love nature and chirping crickets, but
not a continuous chirp...especially when I am accustomed to the low hum or
"white sound" of the wheel....
Thanks for any info.
Beth in VA.......nearing the "peak of leaf-peeping time" in the Blue RIdge
Mtns.....beautiful..... :)
elizabeth priddy on tue 12 oct 99
you probably need to lubricate the mechanical assembly
inside the wheel with silicon based lubricant.
That's the belts, pulleys, etc. inside...
my guess is the moving it around may have introduced
or shook loose some clay inside the wheel...
---
Elizabeth Priddy
I speak from sincerity and experience, not authority...
email: epriddy@usa.net
website: http://www.angelfire.com/nc/clayworkshop
On Mon, 11 Oct 1999 11:43:38 Beth Yeatman Spindler wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>That's the only way to describe the noise I am hearing from my
>wheel........it has been moved around a lot lately in my "just opened"
>pottery/collectibles shop. What have I done???? The noise is really
>irritating after a while... and yes, I love nature and chirping crickets, but
>not a continuous chirp...especially when I am accustomed to the low hum or
>"white sound" of the wheel....
>Thanks for any info.
>Beth in VA.......nearing the "peak of leaf-peeping time" in the Blue RIdge
>Mtns.....beautiful..... :)
>
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Julia/Brian Moore on tue 12 oct 99
Beth,
Try removing the brushes on the motor and sand and clean them a little.
This will work for a while but you will have to repeat it occasionally.
You probably have one of the old Pacific Scientific motors that Brent
used to install on their wheels. I think they quit using them because of
this very problem.
The brushes are located under screw caps on either side of the motor.
Brian in Indy
On Mon, 11 Oct 1999 11:43:38 EDT Beth Yeatman Spindler
writes:
> ----------------------------Original
> message----------------------------
> That's the only way to describe the noise I am hearing from my
> wheel........it has been moved around a lot lately in my "just
> opened"
> pottery/collectibles shop. What have I done???? The noise is
> really
> irritating after a while... and yes, I love nature and chirping
> crickets, but
> not a continuous chirp...especially when I am accustomed to the low
> hum or
> "white sound" of the wheel....
> Thanks for any info.
> Beth in VA.......nearing the "peak of leaf-peeping time" in the Blue
> RIdge
> Mtns.....beautiful..... :)
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jims@connect.ab.ca on wed 13 oct 99
Greetings,
> That's the only way to describe the noise I am hearing from my
> wheel........it has been moved around a lot lately in my "just
> opened"
> pottery/collectibles shop. What have I done???? The noise is
> really
> irritating after a while... and yes, I love nature and chirping
> crickets, but
> not a continuous chirp...especially when I am accustomed to the low
> hum or
> "white sound" of the wheel....
> Thanks for any info.
> Beth in VA.......nearing the "peak of leaf-peeping time" in the Blue
> RIdge
> Mtns.....beautiful..... :)
Before you do anything too drastic (re: motor overhaul etc.) you might
want to check the drive belt as the source of the chirps first. This is
assuming it's only making the chirping sound while the wheelhead is turning
...which is what I'm betting.
You can do a simple test by first *unplugging your wheel* and then remove
any cover to allow access to the belt drive system.
The best indicator to hear if it's the belt (or not) would be to remove
the belt from the motor pulley, turn the wheel back on and see if it makes
the sound while it runs without contacting the belt at all.
Another method is to take a bar of hand soap (dry) and rub it into the
grooves of the belt while turning the wheelhead (or large pulley) until the
grooved area of the belt is coated with the bar soap. Plug in and turn
your wheel on ...with any luck the sound should have disappeared, or at
least be much quieter than it was. Soaping isn't the best method and
won't last very long but it can let you know if it's belt noise.
If you establish that it is the belt, then you can go to your local
automotive supplies store or hardware store (etc.) and ask to purchase
"belt dressing".
To help explain what it does, I did a quick web search and picked the
following URL at random... http://www.jetlubecanada.com/pcrenew.html
...it happened to be the first on the list but there are many other brands
to choose from.
Hope this helps.
Cheers... Jim
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
jims@connect.ab.ca Edmonton/Alberta/Canada
http://www.connect.ab.ca/~jims/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Erin Hayes on thu 14 oct 99
Hi All!
We have this "cricket" noise problem occasionally with our wheels. With
ours it was the brushes - I uncovered the plate on the motor and put some
lubricant on them -voila - no squeak.
It's be worth a try if it's not the belt.
Erin.
John Rodgers on thu 14 oct 99
Remove any cover over the belts to gain access, then with the machine running,
press a parafin wax block against the belts. This is an old aircraft mechanics
trick that has been used in the industry forever. To keep the belts in good
condition, repeat as often as necessary, but at least once a month. It will help
the belts stay lubricated and last a very long time.
Soap works for a short time, but something in soap tends to age the belts more
quickly. Possibly a lye agent that is used in soap making.
As for commercial belt dressings, in my experience they are junk and a waste
of good money. I have never found one that really works very well. The effects
wear off very quickly, and may even add to the problem.
Good luck.
Old Aircraft Mechanic in New Mexico
John Rodgers
jims@connect.ab.ca wrote:
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Greetings,
>
> > That's the only way to describe the noise I am hearing from my
> > wheel........it has been moved around a lot lately in my "just
> > opened"
> > pottery/collectibles shop. What have I done???? The noise is
> > really
> > irritating after a while... and yes, I love nature and chirping
> > crickets, but
> > not a continuous chirp...especially when I am accustomed to the low
> > hum or
> > "white sound" of the wheel....
> > Thanks for any info.
> > Beth in VA.......nearing the "peak of leaf-peeping time" in the Blue
> > RIdge
> > Mtns.....beautiful..... :)
>
> Before you do anything too drastic (re: motor overhaul etc.) you might
> want to check the drive belt as the source of the chirps first. This is
> assuming it's only making the chirping sound while the wheelhead is turning
> ...which is what I'm betting.
> You can do a simple test by first *unplugging your wheel* and then remove
> any cover to allow access to the belt drive system.
> The best indicator to hear if it's the belt (or not) would be to remove
> the belt from the motor pulley, turn the wheel back on and see if it makes
> the sound while it runs without contacting the belt at all.
> Another method is to take a bar of hand soap (dry) and rub it into the
> grooves of the belt while turning the wheelhead (or large pulley) until the
> grooved area of the belt is coated with the bar soap. Plug in and turn
> your wheel on ...with any luck the sound should have disappeared, or at
> least be much quieter than it was. Soaping isn't the best method and
> won't last very long but it can let you know if it's belt noise.
> If you establish that it is the belt, then you can go to your local
> automotive supplies store or hardware store (etc.) and ask to purchase
> "belt dressing".
> To help explain what it does, I did a quick web search and picked the
> following URL at random... http://www.jetlubecanada.com/pcrenew.html
> ...it happened to be the first on the list but there are many other brands
> to choose from.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Cheers... Jim
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> jims@connect.ab.ca Edmonton/Alberta/Canada
> http://www.connect.ab.ca/~jims/
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
elizabeth priddy on fri 15 oct 99
I have both a pacifica and a brent.
I recommended the silicon lubricant because that is
what came with the pacifica to lube out the crickets.
And belts are belts...
---
Elizabeth Priddy
I speak from sincerity and experience, not authority...
email: epriddy@usa.net
website: http://www.angelfire.com/nc/clayworkshop
On Thu, 14 Oct 1999 13:17:40 John Rodgers wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Remove any cover over the belts to gain access, then with the machine running,
>press a parafin wax block against the belts. This is an old aircraft mechanics
>trick that has been used in the industry forever. To keep the belts in good
>condition, repeat as often as necessary, but at least once a month. It will hel
>the belts stay lubricated and last a very long time.
>
>Soap works for a short time, but something in soap tends to age the belts more
>quickly. Possibly a lye agent that is used in soap making.
>
>As for commercial belt dressings, in my experience they are junk and a waste
>of good money. I have never found one that really works very well. The effects
>wear off very quickly, and may even add to the problem.
>
>Good luck.
>Old Aircraft Mechanic in New Mexico
>
>John Rodgers
>
>jims@connect.ab.ca wrote:
>
>> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>> Greetings,
>>
>> > That's the only way to describe the noise I am hearing from my
>> > wheel........it has been moved around a lot lately in my "just
>> > opened"
>> > pottery/collectibles shop. What have I done???? The noise is
>> > really
>> > irritating after a while... and yes, I love nature and chirping
>> > crickets, but
>> > not a continuous chirp...especially when I am accustomed to the low
>> > hum or
>> > "white sound" of the wheel....
>> > Thanks for any info.
>> > Beth in VA.......nearing the "peak of leaf-peeping time" in the Blue
>> > RIdge
>> > Mtns.....beautiful..... :)
>>
>> Before you do anything too drastic (re: motor overhaul etc.) you might
>> want to check the drive belt as the source of the chirps first. This is
>> assuming it's only making the chirping sound while the wheelhead is turning
>> ...which is what I'm betting.
>> You can do a simple test by first *unplugging your wheel* and then remove
>> any cover to allow access to the belt drive system.
>> The best indicator to hear if it's the belt (or not) would be to remove
>> the belt from the motor pulley, turn the wheel back on and see if it makes
>> the sound while it runs without contacting the belt at all.
>> Another method is to take a bar of hand soap (dry) and rub it into the
>> grooves of the belt while turning the wheelhead (or large pulley) until the
>> grooved area of the belt is coated with the bar soap. Plug in and turn
>> your wheel on ...with any luck the sound should have disappeared, or at
>> least be much quieter than it was. Soaping isn't the best method and
>> won't last very long but it can let you know if it's belt noise.
>> If you establish that it is the belt, then you can go to your local
>> automotive supplies store or hardware store (etc.) and ask to purchase
>> "belt dressing".
>> To help explain what it does, I did a quick web search and picked the
>> following URL at random... http://www.jetlubecanada.com/pcrenew.html
>> ...it happened to be the first on the list but there are many other brands
>> to choose from.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Cheers... Jim
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> jims@connect.ab.ca Edmonton/Alberta/Canada
>> http://www.connect.ab.ca/~jims/
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
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Kenneth D. Westfall on fri 15 oct 99
I curious, just what kind of lubricant did you use on the brushes? etc.
oil, grease, silicon.
At 01:06 PM 10/14/1999 EDT, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Hi All!
>
>We have this "cricket" noise problem occasionally with our wheels. With
>ours it was the brushes - I uncovered the plate on the motor and put some
>lubricant on them -voila - no squeak.
>
>It's be worth a try if it's not the belt.
>
>Erin.
>
Kenneth D. Westfall
Pine Hill Pottery
R.D. #2 Box 6AA
Harrisville, WV 26362
pinehill@ruralnet.org
http://www.ruralnet.org/pinehillpottery
chris@euclids.com on sat 16 oct 99
Hi,
We have found that cleaning the belt with windex before re-applying the
appropriate lubricant works well for some wheels.
chris
chris@euclids.com
www.euclids.com
800-296-5456
Beth Yeatman Spindler on tue 19 oct 99
THANKS TO EVERYONE WHO RESPONDED TO MY QUERY ABOUT
THE "CRICKET" IN MY BRENT WHEEL........HAVE SAVED THE SUGGESTIONS AND
RECOMMENDATIONS AND WILL LET YOU KNOW WHICH ONE WORKS FOR ME........ :)
THANKS AGAIN!
Beth in Virginia...............heading farther south on Saturday for another
clay workshop at John C. Campbell Folk School in Brasstown, NC, on the North
Georgia border - woodfiring with NC potter Bob Owen - class ends on Sunday,
October 31st! - Hey, finally a treat ( and no tricks) for me after all these
years!! :)
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