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copper oxide/copper carbonate conversion factor

updated thu 14 oct 99

 

"Ron Roy (by way of Richard Gralnik on tue 12 oct 99

Ron Roy dug up this bit of helpful information for me and I thought I'd share
it with the list:

Since this glaze recipe calls for copper oxide and I don't have any I
wondered if you could substitute copper carb. The next question is how
much copper carb to use instead. Ron's answer (Thanks!) -

For every 1.0 of copper oxide you will need 1.3 of carbonate.


Richard


----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Hi Patty,

I'm guessing this is a cone 10 glaze. I have used frit 3134 to get some raw
clay into the recipe - it will stay suspensed much better. I'm fairly sure
this will look very close to your original and has the added advantage of
having a lower expansion which should help with the crazing.

RR's revision
-----------------
F4 SPAR............. 46.00
F3134............... 10.00
WHITING............. 19.00
OM-4................ 10.00
SILICA.............. 15.00
BENTONITE........... 2.00
TIN................. 3.00
COPPER OX........... 3.50
----------
Total............... 108.50

If it works you can then mix up a big batch and add some of the older
recipe to it and use it up over several batches.

RR



>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>I am having a problem with one of my glaze recipes and would appreciate some
>advice. After sitting unused between glazing sessions, this particular glaze
>settles to the bottom as a thick, almost dry cake. I must drain all the
liquid
>and then chip away the settled ingredients which was about 3 inches thick and
>add it back to the liquid. After the last time I used it, I added a
commercial
>glaze stabilizer. Although it has stabilized the glaze so that it no longer
>settles, it is now so thick that it not only takes a longer time to dry
when I
>dip my pieces for glazing, but the fired glaze no longer looks as nice as
>it did
>before I added the stabilizer. Question #1: Can I salvage the remainder
of my
>glaze? Question #2: Is there a substitution I can make in future batches to
>avoid this problem?
>
>The recipe is as follows:
>
>Soda feldspar 5500g
>Whiting 2200g
>Bentonite 200g
>Flint 1400g
>Tin oxide 300g
>Copper oxide 365g
>
>Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
>
>Patty Herr, Potter
>therr@earthlink.net

Ron Roy
93 Pegasus Trail
Scarborough
Ontario, Canada
M1G 3N8
Evenings 416-439-2621
Fax 416-438-7849

Edouard Bastarache on wed 13 oct 99

------------------
Hello all,

James Chappell says the following on page 419 of =22The Potters Complete =
Book of
Clay and Glazes:

1-=22Copper carbonate
(...)
Copper oxide can be used as a substitute if the amount is reduced by
one-half=22

2-=22Copper oxide
(...)
Copper carbonate can be substituted for copper oxide if the amount is
doubled=22


Later,

Edouard Bastarache
edouardb=40sorel-tracy.qc.ca
http://www.sorel-tracy.qc.ca/=7Eedouardb/
-----Message d'origine-----
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Date : 12 octobre, 1999 14:54
Objet : Copper Oxide/Copper Carbonate conversion factor


----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Ron Roy dug up this bit of helpful information for me and I thought I'd =
share
it with the list:

Since this glaze recipe calls for copper oxide and I don't have any I
wondered if you could substitute copper carb. The next question is how
much copper carb to use instead. Ron's answer (Thanks=21) -

For every 1.0 of copper oxide you will need 1.3 of carbonate.


Richard


----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Hi Patty,

I'm guessing this is a cone 10 glaze. I have used frit 3134 to get some raw
clay into the recipe - it will stay suspensed much better. I'm fairly sure
this will look very close to your original and has the added advantage of
having a lower expansion which should help with the crazing.

RR's revision
-----------------
F4 SPAR............. 46.00
F3134............... 10.00
WHITING............. 19.00
OM-4................ 10.00
SILICA.............. 15.00
BENTONITE........... 2.00
TIN................. 3.00
COPPER OX........... 3.50
----------
Total............... 108.50

If it works you can then mix up a big batch and add some of the older
recipe to it and use it up over several batches.

RR



=3E----------------------------Original message----------------------------
=3EI am having a problem with one of my glaze recipes and would appreciate =
some
=3Eadvice. After sitting unused between glazing sessions, this particular =
glaze
=3Esettles to the bottom as a thick, almost dry cake. I must drain all the
liquid
=3Eand then chip away the settled ingredients which was about 3 inches thick=
and
=3Eadd it back to the liquid. After the last time I used it, I added a
commercial
=3Eglaze stabilizer. Although it has stabilized the glaze so that it no =
longer
=3Esettles, it is now so thick that it not only takes a longer time to dry
when I
=3Edip my pieces for glazing, but the fired glaze no longer looks as nice as
=3Eit did
=3Ebefore I added the stabilizer. Question =231: Can I salvage the =
remainder
of my
=3Eglaze? Question =232: Is there a substitution I can make in future =
batches to
=3Eavoid this problem?
=3E
=3EThe recipe is as follows:
=3E
=3ESoda feldspar 5500g
=3EWhiting 2200g
=3EBentonite 200g
=3EFlint 1400g
=3ETin oxide 300g
=3ECopper oxide 365g
=3E
=3EAny help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated=21
=3E
=3EPatty Herr, Potter
=3Etherr=40earthlink.net

Ron Roy
93 Pegasus Trail
Scarborough
Ontario, Canada
M1G 3N8
Evenings 416-439-2621
Fax 416-438-7849