elizabeth priddy on tue 12 oct 99
This thread has me recalling that when you dye fabric,
urea can be subbed with human urine to contribute to
the dye quality, I can't recall what the urine does
exactly.
The residue urine left after drying the litter:
would it have any beneficial aspect for the glaze?
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Elizabeth Priddy
I speak from sincerity and experience, not authority...
email: epriddy@usa.net
website: http://www.angelfire.com/nc/clayworkshop
On Mon, 11 Oct 1999 11:45:40 Martin Howard wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Andrew Buck has perhaps not read my previous postings on the use of cat
>litter.
>Why incinerate the cat's poo and pee? It might add a little to the
>result, but scarcely worth the trouble.
>I just pick out the solids, put those on the compost heap.
>The damp litter is then put on trays above the kiln and dries very
>quickly.
>The result is used in my standard glaze and now as a terra sig.
>
>Today though I am going to a Pet Crematorium to collect ash. That will
>be tested in our usual way. If it produces anything worth while, it will
>become a standard ingredient. At present it is just spread on fields. It
>must have some fertiliser value.
>
>Martin Howard
>Webbs Cottage Pottery and Press
>Woolpits Road, Great Saling
>BRAINTREE
>Essex CM7 5DZ
>01371 850 423
>araneajo@gn.apc.org
>
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Judy on wed 13 oct 99
Just an interesting (I hope) aside:
When I worked as a guide in a woolen mill in Nova Scotia, we were told that
in the "old days' when the mill first operated, employees saved their urine
in buckets and brought it to work. The urine was used as a mordant to set
the dye in the skeins of pure wool.
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>This thread has me recalling that when you dye fabric,
>urea can be subbed with human urine to contribute to
>the dye quality, I can't recall what the urine does
>exactly.
>
>
>
>>>
Bill Aycock on wed 13 oct 99
Elizabeth-
In my earlier existance as a dabbler in fabric dying and weaving- I came up
with a beautiful soft grey-green dye for wool. The ingredients were
primarily "cat pee and copper"- achieved by soaking copper pennies in very
wet (used) cat litter. The liquid after several days steeping could only be
approached with held breath, but made a great green.
Bill- on Persimmon Hill- where the materials for natural dye abound.
At 12:10 PM 10/12/1999 EDT, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>This thread has me recalling that when you dye fabric,
>urea can be subbed with human urine to contribute to
>the dye quality, I can't recall what the urine does
>exactly.
>
>The residue urine left after drying the litter:
>would it have any beneficial aspect for the glaze?
>
>---
>Elizabeth Priddy
>
>
-
Bill Aycock --- Persimmon Hill
Woodville, Alabama, US 35776
(in the N.E. corner of the State)
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baycock@HiWAAY.net
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Martin Howard on wed 13 oct 99
I cannot imagine that the dried constituents of cat urine could really
affect the glaze because only oxides would remain.
Urea has quite amazing qualities and I can understand it being of value in
operations not involving the use of a kiln. I have used it myself over many
years for helping skin problems, eye problems and anything concerning the
intestinal tract. Urea helps build cells; therefore it is good as a facial,
in conjunction with bentonite.
Many face creams were made using urea, but it was not advertised as such,
for obvious reasons.
Martin Howard
Is anyone finding my latest postings to be in too large a font? I have
changed systems and the posting itself appears on my screen in a very large
font, while the To, From and Subject are in small font sizes.
millie carpenter on wed 13 oct 99
Elizabeth,
the urea increases the wettness factor of the dye so that it mixes more with
the water and is absorbed more easily by the fabric. it is called a
humectant which means in dyeing it is the humidity rather than the heat.
millie in md with no humidity to speak of
elizabeth priddy wrote:
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> This thread has me recalling that when you dye fabric,
> urea can be subbed with human urine to contribute to
> the dye quality, I can't recall what the urine does
> exactly.
>
> The residue urine left after drying the litter:
> would it have any beneficial aspect for the glaze?
>
> ---
> Elizabeth Priddy
>
> I speak from sincerity and experience, not authority...
> email: epriddy@usa.net
> website: http://www.angelfire.com/nc/clayworkshop
>
> On Mon, 11 Oct 1999 11:45:40 Martin Howard wrote:
> >----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> >Andrew Buck has perhaps not read my previous postings on the use of cat
> >litter.
> >Why incinerate the cat's poo and pee? It might add a little to the
> >result, but scarcely worth the trouble.
> >I just pick out the solids, put those on the compost heap.
> >The damp litter is then put on trays above the kiln and dries very
> >quickly.
> >The result is used in my standard glaze and now as a terra sig.
> >
> >Today though I am going to a Pet Crematorium to collect ash. That will
> >be tested in our usual way. If it produces anything worth while, it will
> >become a standard ingredient. At present it is just spread on fields. It
> >must have some fertiliser value.
> >
> >Martin Howard
> >Webbs Cottage Pottery and Press
> >Woolpits Road, Great Saling
> >BRAINTREE
> >Essex CM7 5DZ
> >01371 850 423
> >araneajo@gn.apc.org
> >
>
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> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
Linda Christen on thu 14 oct 99
At 01:06 PM 10/13/99 -0400, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Just an interesting (I hope) aside:
>When I worked as a guide in a woolen mill in Nova Scotia, we were told that
>in the "old days' when the mill first operated, employees saved their urine
>in buckets and brought it to work. The urine was used as a mordant to set
>the dye in the skeins of pure wool.
Yes, as a mordant people would use urine, also vinegar or salt.
I used to be a guide at Buckman Tavern, in Lexington, Mass. and was told
something similar. Also, the acidic quality or urine will turn the blue of
Indigo into a purple.
Just like when your Hydrangea bush is in soil that is too acidic it will
bloom lavender instead of blue. This also happens with forget-me-nots. I
don't know the scientific reasons for these things, just the "mom to
daughter" type of info on gardening that has been passed down.
So, would the urine residue in a glaze have this type of affect?
>
>
>
>
>-----------------
>>This thread has me recalling that when you dye fabric,
>>urea can be subbed with human urine to contribute to
>>the dye quality, I can't recall what the urine does
>>exactly.
>>
>
>>
>>
>>>>
>
Linda Christen
Midgaard Works
Mo and Les Beardsley on thu 14 oct 99
Martin Howard wrote:
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> I cannot imagine that the dried constituents of cat urine could really
> affect the glaze because only oxides would remain.
>
> Urea has quite amazing qualities and I can understand it being of value in
> operations not involving the use of a kiln. I have used it myself over many
> years for helping skin problems, eye problems and anything concerning the
> intestinal tract. Urea helps build cells; therefore it is good as a facial,
> in conjunction with bentonite.
>
> Many face creams were made using urea, but it was not advertised as such,
> for obvious reasons.
>
> Martin Howard
>
> Is anyone finding my latest postings to be in too large a font? I have
> changed systems and the posting itself appears on my screen in a very large
> font, while the To, From and Subject are in small font sizes.
Hi Martin
Looks good on my PC. I also use a urea based hand cream...recommended because
of the dry skin on my elbows. It works great (as long as I remember to use
it). My mother used to recommend using a baby's wet diaper to wipe eyes with
if
they had a "gooy" eye and it seemed to clear them up just fine.
Regards
Maureen Beardsley
>From sunny Ladysmith B.C. where fall is arriving.
Martin Howard on fri 15 oct 99
This thread has me recalling that when you dye fabric,
>>urea can be subbed with human urine to contribute to
>>the dye quality, I can't recall what the urine does
>>exactly.
The urine provides urea. So of course urea can be subbed for urine.
The acid nature of urine makes it ideal for using in mocha tea.
Must do some tests between the various ingredients of mocha tea and see if
urine is better than apple cider vinegar.
Martin Howard
Webbs Cottage Pottery
araneajo@gn.apc.org
araneajo@freenetname.co.uk
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