'Chapatsu' Rob Uechi on wed 27 oct 99
Does anyone have the book called "Electric Kiln Ceramics" by Zakin?
If so, are the glaze recipes recommended any good?
I'd suppose if I were looking for electric kiln glazes I would have to
find out what turns out well in oxidation. If I looked something up in
"The Complete Potter's Book of Clay and Glazes" or "Clay and Glazes for
the Potter" would that be just as good?
Sincerely,
Alexei
Shirley Samuelson on thu 28 oct 99
Alexie, I recently checked out Zakin's Electric Kiln book primarily to look
for glazes. The book is fairly old now and I found that most of the cone 6
glazes I was interested in contained barium, something I'm not too keen on.
Zakin gave a workshop here a few months ago and he was using mixes, both
clay and glazes, that were supposedly in his book. They are probably well
worth a try and maybe tinkering with if ingredients don't make today's
safety standards.
Shirley Samuelson
Les Crimp on thu 28 oct 99
Hi All -
Another quick question on top of the one already on the table. Does anyone
have a Cone 6 White Opalescent glaxe for ^6 porcelain. I am making some
buttons and need such a glaze if possible. TIA
Les Crimp in Nanoose Bay, B.C. ( it is now blowing and raining and chilly
in the great northwest rainforest)
lcrimp@island.net
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From: 'Chapatsu' Rob Uechi
To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Date: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 11:55 AM
Subject: Electric Kiln Glazes...
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Does anyone have the book called "Electric Kiln Ceramics" by Zakin?
If so, are the glaze recipes recommended any good?
I'd suppose if I were looking for electric kiln glazes I would have to
find out what turns out well in oxidation. If I looked something up in
"The Complete Potter's Book of Clay and Glazes" or "Clay and Glazes for
the Potter" would that be just as good?
Sincerely,
Alexei
Jim Cullen on thu 28 oct 99
These are all good reference books for glazes, but just because a recipe is
considered good by one person, remember the final outcome of a glaze has more
to do with how it was prepared, the quality of the ingredients, how it was
applied, the nature of the clay body, the firing of the kiln, and the
blessing of the kiln and glaze gods.
In other words, TEST, TEST, and TEST some more.
Book are good, experience is better.
KEEP CENTERED
Cullen
Naperville, Illinois
WHew536674@cs.com on thu 28 oct 99
Alexei,
Some books will state if the glaze is oxidation or reduction or can be used
either way. The bottom line is still testing. Wish there was a short cut.
I had been doing reduction firing at U. of T, and when I switched teaching
jobs to STCC, they only had electric. What I did was take the reduction
glazes I had been using and try them in oxidation. Some worked fine, others
didn't. What I did find good though, was mixing up about 6 different color
slips, and using them under the glazes, as it produces a "richer" looking
effect than the glazes alone. And, quite to my pleasure, I got some really
nice glaze and slip combinations that look as though they were fired in
reduction, just as "juicy", mottled, and some nice stuff. The easiest thing
to do is take a nice white base glaze and try it over a bunch of colored
slips, and go from there.
Joyce A
Mission, TX
Wint & Marla Harris on thu 28 oct 99
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From: 'Chapatsu' Rob Uechi[SMTP:alexei@u.washington.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 1:55 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Subject: Electric Kiln Glazes...
Funny thing you should ask about glazes from that book right
now! Last week I tried 3 of the ^6 glazes listed in it. Just mixed
'em straight from the recipe and didn't change anything. The book
is at the studio right now, but I'll try to get the names correct.
First, all three glazes mixed so well and brushed so well, I
figured I was doomed! The amber glaze was the big winner. It
fired flawlessly. I was using a ^6 white stoneware clay, but am
really anxious to try it on the ^6 black clay I use. The gray/tan
glaze was first runner-up. The clay was the same and the pieces
were fired in the same firing, same shelf. This glaze tended to
have small *craters* on the outside of the small, open pedestal
bowl I fired it on. The ivory is a good, basic glaze. Rather blah
because of the color, but good satin surface and will most likely
respond to colorants when I have time to try. Overall, I think
the book is good for a lot of reasons. After my trial run with the
glazes offered, I'm certainly going to try others from it.
Good luck,
Marla
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Does anyone have the book called "Electric Kiln Ceramics" by Zakin?
If so, are the glaze recipes recommended any good?
I'd suppose if I were looking for electric kiln glazes I would have to
find out what turns out well in oxidation. If I looked something up in
"The Complete Potter's Book of Clay and Glazes" or "Clay and Glazes for
the Potter" would that be just as good?
Sincerely,
Alexei
Phyliss Ward on thu 28 oct 99
Yes, I have this book and just did some tests on a few of them. All were
acceptable. None were runny. Here are my comments. (please understand
they are from a novice so they may not be technically correct)
Minetto transparent - nice glossy surface - covers pretty well. I added a
few different stains and oxides and all worked ok, better on white clay than
buff.
Denton - ok light blue-green with a waxy shine. seems to need thick
application
Victor Base - my favorite of those I tried. somewhat shiny opaque, with a
little motling/texture. took colors well except mason pansy purple comes out
blue.
Base 547 - nice opaque matt with a little shine. in general, nicer on white
clay. pansy purple turned a nice mottled blue/purple with this one.
Please let me know what results you get with these or any others!
'Chapatsu' Rob Uechi wrote:
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Does anyone have the book called "Electric Kiln Ceramics" by Zakin?
> If so, are the glaze recipes recommended any good?
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Phyliss
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Dewitt on fri 29 oct 99
I just looked and none of the glazes in the 1994 edition of his book
contain barium. He did use strontium in a few.
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At 01:34 PM 10/28/99 -0400, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Alexie, I recently checked out Zakin's Electric Kiln book primarily to look
>for glazes. The book is fairly old now and I found that most of the cone 6
>glazes I was interested in contained barium, something I'm not too keen on.
>Zakin gave a workshop here a few months ago and he was using mixes, both
>clay and glazes, that were supposedly in his book. They are probably well
>worth a try and maybe tinkering with if ingredients don't make today's
>safety standards.
>
>Shirley Samuelson
Don & June MacDonald on sat 30 oct 99
Richard Zakin has had two books published that are called Electric Kiln
Ceramics. The first edition contains receipes using barium, the second,
and more useful edition leaves out the barium. Before the event of the
second edition, he came to do a workshop in Vancouver, and I asked him
then about why so much barium. His reply was "wait for my second
edition!". I have tried a number of glazes that were in the second
edition, and they all work, but I have not found that they are
necessarily useful for food surfaces, quite a lot of crazing.
June
Dewitt wrote:
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> I just looked and none of the glazes in the 1994 edition of his book
> contain barium. He did use strontium in a few.
>
> deg
>
> At 01:34 PM 10/28/99 -0400, you wrote:
> >----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> >Alexie, I recently checked out Zakin's Electric Kiln book primarily to look
> >for glazes. The book is fairly old now and I found that most of the cone 6
> >glazes I was interested in contained barium, something I'm not too keen on.
> >Zakin gave a workshop here a few months ago and he was using mixes, both
> >clay and glazes, that were supposedly in his book. They are probably well
> >worth a try and maybe tinkering with if ingredients don't make today's
> >safety standards.
> >
> >Shirley Samuelson
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