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scale question

updated fri 5 nov 99

 

Diane Woloshyn on sun 31 oct 99

Need some input please. I'm going to purchase a Triple Beam Scale. Have an
electronic Pelouze scale that I am not happy with. Have used it about 2
years and now it doesn't want to turn on unless I am very persistant. I use
it on the wall plug and not the battery. It has never been accurate below .4
grams and can only measure to the nearest .2 grams. It also shuts itself off
if you let it sit for more than 2 minutes without weighing something.

Soooo, what are the pros and cons of getting the Extras on the triple beam,
such as the Tare Beam, removable weighing platform, maxi scoop, or counter
weight set? I have a larger scale that measures up to 10 lbs. and one that
measures up to 100 lbs. (Have never used the larger one-it was a gift) Axner
has two Triple beams listed in their catalogue, the Ohaus and the Nexus. Any
comments on either of these?

Thanks so much.

Diane Florida Bird Lady

Louis H.. Katz on mon 1 nov 99

Jeanne Otis purchased triple beams for Arizona State several years ago and I
have heard good reports on them. I don't know how to contact her other than
through ASU information.
If you buy an Ohaus or other balance get the Tare beam. It is a real time saver.

Louis

Diane Woloshyn wrote:

> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Need some input please. I'm going to purchase a Triple Beam Scale. Have an
> electronic Pelouze scale that I am not happy with. Have used it about 2
> years and now it doesn't want to turn on unless I am very persistant. I use
> it on the wall plug and not the battery. It has never been accurate below .4
> grams and can only measure to the nearest .2 grams. It also shuts itself off
> if you let it sit for more than 2 minutes without weighing something.
>
> Soooo, what are the pros and cons of getting the Extras on the triple beam,
> such as the Tare Beam, removable weighing platform, maxi scoop, or counter
> weight set? I have a larger scale that measures up to 10 lbs. and one that
> measures up to 100 lbs. (Have never used the larger one-it was a gift) Axner
> has two Triple beams listed in their catalogue, the Ohaus and the Nexus. Any
> comments on either of these?
>
> Thanks so much.
>
> Diane Florida Bird Lady

Chris Schafale on mon 1 nov 99

Diane,

Definitely get the tare beam and the maxi scoop. The tare beam
allows you to adjust for the weight of any container you might use on
the scale, without having to remember to subtract (and one less thing
to remember when mixing glazes is, in my opinion, a Good Thing). The
maxi scoop is great for the larger quantities of ingredients when
mixing a 5000 g (or larger) batch of glaze, so you don't have to
weigh so many times. If I remember right, the standard scoop
doesn't hold more than about 500 grams of most things, and the maxi
more like 1000. I have not found the counterweights that helpful --
seems like I always have to adjust the balance anyway on my scale.
I don't have any info on Ohaus vs. Nexus. Good luck.

Chris
Light One Candle Pottery
Fuquay-Varina, NC
candle@intrex.net

Shirley Tschannen on mon 1 nov 99

Hi Diane, I am rather new to Pottery but went through the digital scale bit
and finally ordered an Ohaus triple beam, priced around 115.00. Didn't get the
bells and whistles but wish I had the tare because you always have to be adding
the weight of the container to the weight of ingredients and find the math can
be tricky at times. Hope this helps a little. I didn't get it from Axner but
direct from Dickey Scales of Fl. 1800-375-0234.

Diane Woloshyn wrote:

> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Need some input please. I'm going to purchase a Triple Beam Scale. Have an
> electronic Pelouze scale that I am not happy with. Have used it about 2
> years and now it doesn't want to turn on unless I am very persistant. I use
> it on the wall plug and not the battery. It has never been accurate below .4
> grams and can only measure to the nearest .2 grams. It also shuts itself off
> if you let it sit for more than 2 minutes without weighing something.
>
> Soooo, what are the pros and cons of getting the Extras on the triple beam,
> such as the Tare Beam, removable weighing platform, maxi scoop, or counter
> weight set? I have a larger scale that measures up to 10 lbs. and one that
> measures up to 100 lbs. (Have never used the larger one-it was a gift) Axner
> has two Triple beams listed in their catalogue, the Ohaus and the Nexus. Any
> comments on either of these?
>
> Thanks so much.
>
> Diane Florida Bird Lady

John Rodgers on mon 1 nov 99

Diane, get the Ohaus scale with all the trimmings. You won't be sorry. It's the
same one I have.

I'm a bit of a nut about getting things down to the exact decimal point, and
measuring things accurately. This is a very fine scale and should be treated as
such. If you do so, it last a very long time. Keep it clean, free of dust, and
get a cover for it. I think Ohaus makes one for it.

John Rodgers

Diane Woloshyn wrote:

> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Need some input please. I'm going to purchase a Triple Beam Scale. Have an
> electronic Pelouze scale that I am not happy with. Have used it about 2
> years and now it doesn't want to turn on unless I am very persistant. I use
> it on the wall plug and not the battery. It has never been accurate below .4
> grams and can only measure to the nearest .2 grams. It also shuts itself off
> if you let it sit for more than 2 minutes without weighing something.
>
> Soooo, what are the pros and cons of getting the Extras on the triple beam,
> such as the Tare Beam, removable weighing platform, maxi scoop, or counter
> weight set? I have a larger scale that measures up to 10 lbs. and one that
> measures up to 100 lbs. (Have never used the larger one-it was a gift) Axner
> has two Triple beams listed in their catalogue, the Ohaus and the Nexus. Any
> comments on either of these?
>
> Thanks so much.
>
> Diane Florida Bird Lady

Dewitt on tue 2 nov 99

http://www.scaleman.com had the best prices when I bought my Ohaus a year
ago. I would recommend the tare.

deg
At 11:23 PM 10/31/99 -0500, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Need some input please. I'm going to purchase a Triple Beam Scale. Have an
>electronic Pelouze scale that I am not happy with. Have used it about 2
>years and now it doesn't want to turn on unless I am very persistant. I use
>it on the wall plug and not the battery. It has never been accurate below .4
>grams and can only measure to the nearest .2 grams. It also shuts itself off
>if you let it sit for more than 2 minutes without weighing something.
>
>Soooo, what are the pros and cons of getting the Extras on the triple beam,
>such as the Tare Beam, removable weighing platform, maxi scoop, or counter
>weight set? I have a larger scale that measures up to 10 lbs. and one that
>measures up to 100 lbs. (Have never used the larger one-it was a gift) Axner
>has two Triple beams listed in their catalogue, the Ohaus and the Nexus. Any
>comments on either of these?
>
>Thanks so much.
>
>Diane Florida Bird Lady

Ray Aldridge on tue 2 nov 99

At 03:44 PM 11/1/99 EST, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Jeanne Otis purchased triple beams for Arizona State several years ago and I
>have heard good reports on them. I don't know how to contact her other than
>through ASU information.
>If you buy an Ohaus or other balance get the Tare beam. It is a real time
saver.
>

Good advice, but if you happen not to have the Tare beam, you can still
save the time. I use a cut-down Chlorox jug as my tare container, and use
a loop of solder as my tare weight. And I should mention that to make use
of a tare container, you probably ought to get at least a 500 g.
counterweight, which will allow you to weigh out materials in 1000 g. chunks.

Ray

Aldridge Porcelain and Stoneware
http://www.goodpots.com

Vince Pitelka on tue 2 nov 99

>Soooo, what are the pros and cons of getting the Extras on the triple beam,
>such as the Tare Beam, removable weighing platform, maxi scoop, or counter
>weight set? I have a larger scale that measures up to 10 lbs. and one that
>measures up to 100 lbs. (Have never used the larger one-it was a gift) Axner
>has two Triple beams listed in their catalogue, the Ohaus and the Nexus. Any
>comments on either of these?

Diane -
The tare beam is essential, because it allows you to adjust for different
weghing containers. Don't bother with the removable weighing platform or
the maxi scoop. As long as you have the tare beam, you can use any
reasonable container for weighing. The accessory weights are a must. Get
the set including two 1000 gram and one 500 gram weights. These hang on the
little pegs on the end of the beam, increasing the total weight by the
specified increment. The scale alone will weigh 610 grams. With the
accessory weight set you can weigh any amount up to 2610 grams. It is a
very simple, foolproof system. If you are buying the scale at all, get this
weight set. You will regret it if you decide to try and use your 10-lb.
scale instead for larger amounts. With the accessory weight set you can
weigh any amount you will need for mixing glazes, and then you can have all
your glaze recipes listed in grams.

I have never used the Nexus scale, but I have been using the Ohaus
triple-beam scales for thirty years.
Good luck -
- Vince

Vince Pitelka
Home - vpitelka@DeKalb.net
615/597-5376
Work - wpitelka@tntech.edu
615/597-6801 ext. 111, fax 615/597-6803
Appalachian Center for Crafts
Tennessee Technological University
1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166

WHew536674@cs.com on tue 2 nov 99

Diane,
It may be a matter of what one is used to. Have been using the Ohaus for
decades, can measure .05 grams with no problem, I like it a lot.
Joyce A

Stephani Stephenson on tue 2 nov 99

Diane, I bought a Nexus scale from Seattle Pottery Supply a few years
back.I chose it because it was more economical, however, I also prefer
the body of the scale over the Ohaus. It's very solidly built and well
designed.Lots of rounded, heavily enamelled surfaces that are easier to
keep clean. Smooth operation as well.
Stephani
Leucadia CA
arcilla@inetworld.net

Paula Biesinger on tue 2 nov 99

Diane, You need a tare beam if you place a container on the scale to hold
the measured chemicals, it will bring the scale back to "0" with the empty
container in place. You will also need the weight set. The rest is up to you
but not necessary as far as I know.

Paula
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Subject: Scale question


----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Need some input please. I'm going to purchase a Triple Beam Scale. Have an
electronic Pelouze scale that I am not happy with. Have used it about 2
years and now it doesn't want to turn on unless I am very persistant. I use
it on the wall plug and not the battery. It has never been accurate below
.4
grams and can only measure to the nearest .2 grams. It also shuts itself
off
if you let it sit for more than 2 minutes without weighing something.

Soooo, what are the pros and cons of getting the Extras on the triple beam,
such as the Tare Beam, removable weighing platform, maxi scoop, or counter
weight set? I have a larger scale that measures up to 10 lbs. and one that
measures up to 100 lbs. (Have never used the larger one-it was a gift)
Axner
has two Triple beams listed in their catalogue, the Ohaus and the Nexus.
Any
comments on either of these?

Thanks so much.

Diane Florida Bird Lady

Marcia Selsor on wed 3 nov 99

I bought an Ohaus some thrity years ago and it still works fine. I
bought one for our campus 25 years agos and it is fine also.No problems
with small amounts and I have to 1 kilo and 500 gram copunter balances.
I have the steel pan at home and the plastic scoop for the one at campus.
Marcia Selsor
> >----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> >Need some input please. I'm going to purchase a Triple Beam Scale. Have an
> >electronic Pelouze scale that I am not happy with. Have used it about 2
> >years and now it doesn't want to turn on unless I am very persistant. I use
> >it on the wall plug and not the battery. It has never been accurate below .4
> >grams and can only measure to the nearest .2 grams. It also shuts itself off
> >if you let it sit for more than 2 minutes without weighing something.
> >
> >Soooo, what are the pros and cons of getting the Extras on the triple beam,
> >such as the Tare Beam, removable weighing platform, maxi scoop, or counter
> >weight set? I have a larger scale that measures up to 10 lbs. and one that
> >measures up to 100 lbs. (Have never used the larger one-it was a gift) Axner
> >has two Triple beams listed in their catalogue, the Ohaus and the Nexus. Any
> >comments on either of these?
> >
> >Thanks so much.
> >
> >Diane Florida Bird Lady

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CNW on wed 3 nov 99

I have a triple beam balance with the tare beam at home and it is okay.
I use the triple beam with out the tare at school and use clay between the
pointer and the beams to match the wieght of the bowl I use to hold the
materials. Neither one is a big problem. If i were thinking I probably would
save a tiny plastic bag from some purchase and hang that from the end with
enough sand to offset the bowl. I do agree that if you are going to make
large batches you need to eventually invest in the extra weights.

Celia

Paul Lewing on wed 3 nov 99

WHew536674@cs.com wrote:
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Diane,
> It may be a matter of what one is used to. Have been using the Ohaus for
> decades, can measure .05 grams with no problem, I like it a lot.
> Joyce A

Joyce, I'm sure it was a slip of the finger on your part, but I'd bet
anything you meant you can weigh .5 grams, not .05 grams. In the Great
Spelling Debate that we've had here many times, I think we've come to
agree that "we knew what you meant, and that's what's important". But
in the case of numbers, what you typed was, I'm sure, different from
what you meant by a factor of ten. And if you really can weigh out .05
grams on your Ohaus, hit me upside the head with a tare beam, and then
come over and teach me how.
Paul Lewing, Seattle

Mitch Kotula on wed 3 nov 99

Agree that tare beam is essential. Also, the
additonal weights come in handy when mixing larger
batches of glaze. For the price differential, they
are worth it.

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Mitch Kotula on wed 3 nov 99

I have certain containers I use for weighing out
chemicals. Since I don't have a tare off-set, I use
those plastic nail and screw containers filled with
sand to serve the off-set function. The container and
sand must weigh the same as the container.

Mitch

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Ray Aldridge on thu 4 nov 99

At 05:54 PM 11/3/99 EST, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>I have certain containers I use for weighing out
>chemicals. Since I don't have a tare off-set, I use
>those plastic nail and screw containers filled with
>sand to serve the off-set function. The container and
>sand must weigh the same as the container.
>

I may be misunderstanding you, but actually, the tare container and tare
weight do not weigh the same. For example, my tare container weighs 72 g.
but the loop of solder I use for a tare weight weighs 21 g.

It has to do with the lever arm of the scale. I suppose a more technical
person could calculate the approximate tare weight, but I just monkeyed
around until it worked. You set the empty scale to zero, put your
container on the tray and then hang your tare weight on the end of the beam
from the little nubbins you hang counterweights from (there are two of
these on my scale, so I can still use a counterweight.) Then you fiddle
with the tare weight until the scale is zeroed again. Sounds like a pain,
but it only takes a few minutes and then you never have to worry about it
again (unless you lose your tare container or weight, so I put the weight
in the container and hang them both on the wall.)

Ray


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