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bugs in clay/was anaerobic bacteria identified!

updated wed 10 nov 99

 

The Brinks on mon 8 nov 99

On this subject, I've long intended to write in and ask about the visible
tiny bugs in my throwing water bowls. When the sun shines directly on the
bowl, I can see a few swimmers, small-several will fit on the head of a
pin :-) - also can see the little trails they have made on the slip that
has settled under the clear water. They are sort of an amber color. Maybe
they live on the bacteria identified below? I didn't think bacteria are
usually visible to the naked eye, but may be wrong.

Ann Brink in CA, affirming I haven't added anything weird to my clay!

At 05:29 PM 11/7/99 EST, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>I had a moecular biologist friend who
>specializes in identifiying bacteria look
>at and grow some of the bacteria making my
>throwing water especially stinky...
>
>she said it is Terra cia, a rather toxic if
>ingested, microorganism who's waste bi-products
>are a slippery substance. This concurs with my
>theory as I do not ever throw out the last of my
>throwing water in order to "start" the clean
>bucket with the naturally slipperier water.
>
>the bacteria is harmless in the presence of
>air, as it is anaerobic. It dies quickly in
>fact. That is why it grows so well in the dreg
>water at the bottom of throwing water and
>reclaim buckets.
>
>Which brings me to my point, to get rid of the
>smell, pour off any old water and just add fresh
>with a splish of vinegar. The stench will go
>quickly and the good bacteria will stay and
>make your clay better and better for throwing.
>
>Good throwing to ya!
>
>
>---
>Elizabeth Priddy
>
>personal email: epriddy@usa.net
>website: http://www.angelfire.com/nc/clayworkshop
>
>
>
>
>
>On Sat, 6 Nov 1999 20:52:48 Ron Roy wrote:
>>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>>The action of bacteria causes clay to flocculate - same way vinegar works -
>>bleach is alkali so I would expect the opposite to happen, to some extent,
>>and some of the benefits of aging will be lost.
>>
>>RR
>>
>>
>>>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>>>So that brings up the question: Does the bleach in the clay change its (the
>>>clays) elasticity? We just put it in our re-cycle bucket, as it was getting
>>>pretty stinky. Now it looks beautiful, but I know that beauty can be
>>>deceiving! In advance, thanks for the feedback, Mary Jean
>>
>>Ron Roy
>>93 Pegasus Trail
>>Scarborough
>>Ontario, Canada
>>M1G 3N8
>>Evenings 416-439-2621
>>Fax 416-438-7849
>>
>
>
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>
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Cindy Strnad, Earthen Vessels Pottery on tue 9 nov 99

Ann,

No, bacteria are never visible to the naked eye. As to the bugs, I
suppose their identity would depend somewhat on where you live. The only
(visible) bugs in my throwing water are the %@#$ flies I keep killing and
which sneak in somehow in such numbers that it's actually more effective to
let the door stand open. At least that way, *some* of them fly back out
again. Yuk!

Had enough bugs,

Cindy Strnad
Earthen Vessels Pottery
Custer, SD

NakedClay@aol.com on tue 9 nov 99

Hi Ann!

As long as the bugs don't bite you, I'd make sure the little rascals help
out, and make lots of subtle trails on your wares. When you bisque fire the
wares, only the trails will remain!

I did this with ants that suddenly became visitors to my studio. I pressed
lots of the little critters into the clay of a mask I made, and fired
them--and made an ususal design! I don't kill ants--I use them as indentured
designs!

Milton NakedClay@AOL.COM

The air is clear, cool, and slightly breezy today, in the Mojave Desert.

The Buchanans on tue 9 nov 99

I'll bet what you see are wiggle tails(mosquito larva) In Mississippi they
are so common in my slip bucket I keep a
bottle of garlic oil in the studio. A dab floating on top of the water
discourages the momas and suffocates the wigglers.
Judi
-----Original Message-----
From: The Brinks
To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Date: Monday, November 08, 1999 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: bugs in clay/was anaerobic bacteria identified!


----------------------------Original message----------------------------
On this subject, I've long intended to write in and ask about the visible
tiny bugs in my throwing water bowls. When the sun shines directly on the
bowl, I can see a few swimmers, small-several will fit on the head of a
pin :-) - also can see the little trails they have made on the slip that
has settled under the clear water. They are sort of an amber color. Maybe
they live on the bacteria identified below? I didn't think bacteria are
usually visible to the naked eye, but may be wrong.

Ann Brink in CA, affirming I haven't added anything weird to my clay!

At 05:29 PM 11/7/99 EST, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>I had a moecular biologist friend who
>specializes in identifiying bacteria look
>at and grow some of the bacteria making my
>throwing water especially stinky...
>
>she said it is Terra cia, a rather toxic if
>ingested, microorganism who's waste bi-products
>are a slippery substance. This concurs with my
>theory as I do not ever throw out the last of my
>throwing water in order to "start" the clean
>bucket with the naturally slipperier water.
>
>the bacteria is harmless in the presence of
>air, as it is anaerobic. It dies quickly in
>fact. That is why it grows so well in the dreg
>water at the bottom of throwing water and
>reclaim buckets.
>
>Which brings me to my point, to get rid of the
>smell, pour off any old water and just add fresh
>with a splish of vinegar. The stench will go
>quickly and the good bacteria will stay and
>make your clay better and better for throwing.
>
>Good throwing to ya!
>
>
>---
>Elizabeth Priddy
>
>personal email: epriddy@usa.net
>website: http://www.angelfire.com/nc/clayworkshop
>
>
>
>
>
>On Sat, 6 Nov 1999 20:52:48 Ron Roy wrote:
>>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>>The action of bacteria causes clay to flocculate - same way vinegar
works -
>>bleach is alkali so I would expect the opposite to happen, to some extent,
>>and some of the benefits of aging will be lost.
>>
>>RR
>>
>>
>>>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>>>So that brings up the question: Does the bleach in the clay change its
(the
>>>clays) elasticity? We just put it in our re-cycle bucket, as it was
getting
>>>pretty stinky. Now it looks beautiful, but I know that beauty can be
>>>deceiving! In advance, thanks for the feedback, Mary Jean
>>
>>Ron Roy
>>93 Pegasus Trail
>>Scarborough
>>Ontario, Canada
>>M1G 3N8
>>Evenings 416-439-2621
>>Fax 416-438-7849
>>
>
>
>--== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==--
>Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
>
>
e-mail billann@impulse.net