elizabeth priddy on thu 11 nov 99
Recently I asked a potter about the stilt marks
that they leave on the bottoms of their pots.
My thought was, why don't you grind them smooth,
as they scratch tables and costomers' hands as
they handle the pots.
In my opinion, any pot that will harm the user
or the user's stuff, or that when used as
apparently intended will fail(ie flower vases
that leak), any such pot is a second.
I was faced with the opinion that any aspect
of the pot was a piece of its making and was
by that means a feature rather than a bug.
I call such work, "Danger pottery" and the
danger is in the delusion that because your
litle hands touched it it is art and as such
sacred and perfect in its very essence of being.
Sometimes pots are bad, not seconds, BAD. Bad
pots should be destroyed never to come back to
haunt you. Pots that are fine but not what you
intended to make are seconds and should be
given away. Yes, GIVEN away in the spirit of
good chi and good will that will come back to
you later.
The receiver will feel blessed, your heart and
conscious will be pure, and your homeless pot
will have a place to roost.
And can you imagine the dinner party
conversation then? "you mean she GAVE it
to you because it wasn't good enought to sell?!!
where can I see her work that is up to snuff?"
Much better than "I only payed five dollars for
it!" because then people will expect you to
have five dollar pots available, or worse yet,
not understand the difference between the
hundred dollar one and the five dollar one,
as such differences are frequently only in the mind of the maker...
keep a generous spirit and a light heart!
---
Elizabeth Priddy
personal email: epriddy@usa.net
website: http://www.angelfire.com/nc/clayworkshop
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susanford on thu 11 nov 99
I try and smooth the bases of pots at many stages. When
leather hard, when bone dry, when bisqued, and when glaze
fired. It annoys me to have to pick off kiln wash once in a
while, but I like the bases to be as smooth as possible. My
taller mugs and forms are thrown and not trimmed, so I
don't want the flat area scratching anything.
As for bad pots and seconds... well, I know I've given away
some of my best work in the past and now it looks horrid to
me. All of my seconds go to my best friend, who is happy
with them and knows I do much better. Plan on giving her a
set of pasta bowl "firsts" for Christmas.
If I don't like the shape of something, I recyle it before
it's fired. My seconds tend to be glaze mishaps or simply
glazing that I don't like but is perfectly fine. I have a
table full of '57 Chevy turquoise mugs. Makes me shudder
just to look at them.
Susan
> Recently I asked a potter about the stilt marks
> that they leave on the bottoms of their pots.
>
> My thought was, why don't you grind them smooth,
> as they scratch tables and costomers' hands as
> they handle the pots.
>
> In my opinion, any pot that will harm the user
> or the user's stuff, or that when used as
> apparently intended will fail(ie flower vases
> that leak), any such pot is a second.
>
> I was faced with the opinion that any aspect
> of the pot was a piece of its making and was
> by that means a feature rather than a bug.
>
> I call such work, "Danger pottery" and the
> danger is in the delusion that because your
> litle hands touched it it is art and as such
> sacred and perfect in its very essence of being.
>
>
> Sometimes pots are bad, not seconds, BAD. Bad
> pots should be destroyed never to come back to
> haunt you. Pots that are fine but not what you
> intended to make are seconds and should be
> given away. Yes, GIVEN away in the spirit of
> good chi and good will that will come back to
> you later.
>
> The receiver will feel blessed, your heart and
> conscious will be pure, and your homeless pot
> will have a place to roost.
>
> And can you imagine the dinner party
> conversation then? "you mean she GAVE it
> to you because it wasn't good enought to sell?!!
> where can I see her work that is up to snuff?"
>
> Much better than "I only payed five dollars for
> it!" because then people will expect you to
> have five dollar pots available, or worse yet,
> not understand the difference between the
> hundred dollar one and the five dollar one,
> as such differences are frequently only in the mind of the maker...
>
> keep a generous spirit and a light heart!
>
> ---
> Elizabeth Priddy
>
> personal email: epriddy@usa.net
> website: http://www.angelfire.com/nc/clayworkshop
>
>
>
>
>
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Susan K. Ford
Norman, Oklahoma
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"When the chips are down, the buffalo is empty."
george koller on fri 12 nov 99
Users? Bugs? User features?
Wow, this old programmer never thought these words would creep
into potter talk. Where can one hide? Next thing we'll be "Instantiating
Objects" rather than "making pots". ....
elizabeth priddy wrote:
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Recently I asked a potter about the stilt marks
> that they leave on the bottoms of their pots.
>
> My thought was, why don't you grind them smooth,
> as they scratch tables and costomers' hands as
> they handle the pots.
>
> In my opinion, any pot that will harm the user
> or the user's stuff, or that when used as
> apparently intended will fail(ie flower vases
> that leak), any such pot is a second.
>
> I was faced with the opinion that any aspect
> of the pot was a piece of its making and was
> by that means a feature rather than a bug.
>
> I call such work, "Danger pottery" and the
> danger is in the delusion that because your
> litle hands touched it it is art and as such
> sacred and perfect in its very essence of being.
>
> Sometimes pots are bad, not seconds, BAD. Bad
> pots should be destroyed never to come back to
> haunt you. Pots that are fine but not what you
> intended to make are seconds and should be
> given away. Yes, GIVEN away in the spirit of
> good chi and good will that will come back to
> you later.
>
> The receiver will feel blessed, your heart and
> conscious will be pure, and your homeless pot
> will have a place to roost.
>
> And can you imagine the dinner party
> conversation then? "you mean she GAVE it
> to you because it wasn't good enought to sell?!!
> where can I see her work that is up to snuff?"
>
> Much better than "I only payed five dollars for
> it!" because then people will expect you to
> have five dollar pots available, or worse yet,
> not understand the difference between the
> hundred dollar one and the five dollar one,
> as such differences are frequently only in the mind of the maker...
>
> keep a generous spirit and a light heart!
>
> ---
> Elizabeth Priddy
>
> personal email: epriddy@usa.net
> website: http://www.angelfire.com/nc/clayworkshop
>
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elizabeth priddy on sat 13 nov 99
If I ever instantiate an object,
just shoot me on the spot!
a lo-o--ng time ago, the bugs in someting
refered to actual critters, like in flour
that has gone mealy. If you were in it for
the extra protein, it might be a feature!
but, mea culpa..., I was using computer speak
to describe a real problem...I probably won't do it again...
---
Elizabeth Priddy
personal email: epriddy@usa.net
website: http://www.angelfire.com/nc/clayworkshop
On Fri, 12 Nov 1999 11:38:19 george koller wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>
>Users? Bugs? User features?
>
>Wow, this old programmer never thought these words would creep
>into potter talk. Where can one hide? Next thing we'll be "Instantiating
>Objects" rather than "making pots". ....
>
>
>
>elizabeth priddy wrote:
>
>> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>> Recently I asked a potter about the stilt marks
>> that they leave on the bottoms of their pots.
>>
>> My thought was, why don't you grind them smooth,
>> as they scratch tables and costomers' hands as
>> they handle the pots.
>>
>> In my opinion, any pot that will harm the user
>> or the user's stuff, or that when used as
>> apparently intended will fail(ie flower vases
>> that leak), any such pot is a second.
>>
>> I was faced with the opinion that any aspect
>> of the pot was a piece of its making and was
>> by that means a feature rather than a bug.
>>
>> I call such work, "Danger pottery" and the
>> danger is in the delusion that because your
>> litle hands touched it it is art and as such
>> sacred and perfect in its very essence of being.
>>
>> Sometimes pots are bad, not seconds, BAD. Bad
>> pots should be destroyed never to come back to
>> haunt you. Pots that are fine but not what you
>> intended to make are seconds and should be
>> given away. Yes, GIVEN away in the spirit of
>> good chi and good will that will come back to
>> you later.
>>
>> The receiver will feel blessed, your heart and
>> conscious will be pure, and your homeless pot
>> will have a place to roost.
>>
>> And can you imagine the dinner party
>> conversation then? "you mean she GAVE it
>> to you because it wasn't good enought to sell?!!
>> where can I see her work that is up to snuff?"
>>
>> Much better than "I only payed five dollars for
>> it!" because then people will expect you to
>> have five dollar pots available, or worse yet,
>> not understand the difference between the
>> hundred dollar one and the five dollar one,
>> as such differences are frequently only in the mind of the maker...
>>
>> keep a generous spirit and a light heart!
>>
>> ---
>> Elizabeth Priddy
>>
>> personal email: epriddy@usa.net
>> website: http://www.angelfire.com/nc/clayworkshop
>>
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>
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