Sandra M Benscoter on thu 11 nov 99
Hi All!
Need some input, again! Didn't follow the thread a while back on
Chimenea's, which might have been helpful to me now. If you would rather
reply off list, my other 'e' address is listed at the end.
The Pastor of my church has requested a very, very large bowl in which to
burn paper. I fire in an electric kiln (cone 6) and use a buff
stoneware and am not sure if this would be a good choice. Although the
clay would be fired high, I am concerned with quick expansion (direct
fire within) and don't want it to crack with flames running amuck!. With
the heat, I'm assuming the bowl will have to be up on a metal stand. How
high will the stand need to be to give enough space between the bowl and
the alter? Or will feet on the bowl suffice? If anyone has had any
experience with a situation like this, I need all the advice you can
give. Did you glaze the piece?
The chimenea's are built with terra cotta and are able to handle direct
burning. Is anything else added to their clay? Would it be wise to
choose terra cotta for the bowl? Or maybe raku?
Please help!
As the saying goes "Why me Lord?"
Sande
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The Brinks on fri 12 nov 99
Sande; I'm assuming he's not going to burn a whole lot of papers at once,
maybe one or two. I'll bet if a very simple grate were at the bottom to
keep direct heat off the bowl, there would be no problem. One of those
round wire things for cooling cakes. Are you going to ask for a brimstone
glaze next? (sorry!)
Ann in CA, wondering what brimstone is, really?
At 05:06 PM 11/11/99 EST, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>
>Hi All!
>
>Need some input, again! Didn't follow the thread a while back on
>Chimenea's, which might have been helpful to me now. If you would rather
>reply off list, my other 'e' address is listed at the end.
>The Pastor of my church has requested a very, very large bowl in which to
>burn paper. I fire in an electric kiln (cone 6) and use a buff
>stoneware and am not sure if this would be a good choice. Although the
>clay would be fired high, I am concerned with quick expansion (direct
>fire within) and don't want it to crack with flames running amuck!. With
>the heat, I'm assuming the bowl will have to be up on a metal stand. How
>high will the stand need to be to give enough space between the bowl and
>the alter? Or will feet on the bowl suffice? If anyone has had any
>experience with a situation like this, I need all the advice you can
>give. Did you glaze the piece?
>The chimenea's are built with terra cotta and are able to handle direct
>burning. Is anything else added to their clay? Would it be wise to
>choose terra cotta for the bowl? Or maybe raku?
>Please help!
>
>As the saying goes "Why me Lord?"
>
>Sande
>sbenscoter@juno.com
>
>
>
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Cindy Strnad, Earthen Vessels Pottery on fri 12 nov 99
I'm very curious, Sande.
Why does your pastor want to burn paper in a bowl on the altar? I've heard
of all sorts of ceremonies, but this is a new one for me. Seems like it
might stink up the building a bit, set off the sprinkler system and so on.
Unless he's going to build a regular campfire, I expect your pottery will
stand up pretty well to this treatment, but you should, of course,
experiment. It depends on how hot and how big the fire is going to get. I
wouldn't hesitate to burn a crumpled up sheet of paper or two in one of my
bowls. I burn votive candles in my candle cups all the time, and they
quickly get too hot to touch, though that probably produces a more gradual
heating than a sudden paper fire would do.
If you don't feel comfortable with the assignment, tell him you're not his
girl. It isn't likely you're going to get a lot of call for this sort of
thing, so the time it takes you to develop a suitable clay might not be
worth your trouble.
As for separating the pot from the table, again it depends upon the
fierceness of the fire. A deep foot should do nicely, or a metal ring stand.
Hope this works out for you--sounds interesting.
Cindy Strnad
Earthen Vessels Pottery
Custer, SD
Mike Gordon on fri 12 nov 99
Hi,
You should ask the Pastor if he has considered the possibility of the
smoke from this paper burning might set off the smoke alarms.Mike
PS I'd put the container up on at least a 3 - 4" stand and put a screen
over it so ash and sparks won't float around.
Joanne Van Bezooyen on fri 12 nov 99
We put sand in the bottom of chimineas to insulate the "bowl" from the
initial heat of lighting the fire. Chimineas are began with a small fire to
slowly warm the whole structure before piling on more wood. Can the pastor
put a couple inches of sand in the bottom of the bowl?
Sandra M Benscoter wrote:
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>
> Hi All!
>
> Need some input, again! Didn't follow the thread a while back on
> Chimenea's, which might have been helpful to me now. If you would rather
> reply off list, my other 'e' address is listed at the end.
> The Pastor of my church has requested a very, very large bowl in which to
> burn paper. I fire in an electric kiln (cone 6) and use a buff
> stoneware and am not sure if this would be a good choice. Although the
> clay would be fired high, I am concerned with quick expansion (direct
> fire within) and don't want it to crack with flames running amuck!. With
> the heat, I'm assuming the bowl will have to be up on a metal stand. How
> high will the stand need to be to give enough space between the bowl and
> the alter? Or will feet on the bowl suffice? If anyone has had any
> experience with a situation like this, I need all the advice you can
> give. Did you glaze the piece?
> The chimenea's are built with terra cotta and are able to handle direct
> burning. Is anything else added to their clay? Would it be wise to
> choose terra cotta for the bowl? Or maybe raku?
> Please help!
>
> As the saying goes "Why me Lord?"
>
> Sande
> sbenscoter@juno.com
>
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NakedClay@aol.com on sat 13 nov 99
Hi Everybody!
Indeed, this is an interesting string. It brings back a memory I have as a
pastor's kid.
The church my Dad preached in (Baltimore, MD) had just paid off its mortgage,
and celebrated the final check by burning the bank papers! About 300 members
of the congregation attended this event.
This was done ceremoniously and gracefully in a large ceramic bowl, which my
Dad held in his hands while the trustee of the church lit the mortgage
papers. Once the paper was in flames, Dad placed the bowl on the altar
(polished wood), and let the flames eat the paper. In about thirty seconds,
the papers were burned, the ashes were blessed, and the bowl and its contents
were stored away. I don't know what happened to the ashes and bowl--I think
the bowl eventually resurrected itself in the church kitchen!
Nonetheless, I'm certain that the church is going to have a ceremony like the
one I described. It's a ceremonial bowl. I'd not only be honored to make it,
but I'd use the best materials I could find. If you're uncertain of the
bowl's use, call the pastor and ask him. Chances are good that it's for
something wonderful.
Wow--I was 8 years old when the ceremony occurred!
Milton NakedClay@AOL.COM
Now a former PK..my Dad moved on, and is now a successful financial planner!
Steve Yahn on sat 13 nov 99
Brimstone is sulfer. Around the brims and edges of volcanic fumerols or
vents it is condensed from sulfer fumes. From the infernal world below in
HELL!(oh my!)
Warm regards,Steve Yahn
At 11:48 AM 11/12/99 EST, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Sande; I'm assuming he's not going to burn a whole lot of papers at once,
>maybe one or two. I'll bet if a very simple grate were at the bottom to
>keep direct heat off the bowl, there would be no problem. One of those
>round wire things for cooling cakes. Are you going to ask for a brimstone
>glaze next? (sorry!)
>
>Ann in CA, wondering what brimstone is, really?
>
>At 05:06 PM 11/11/99 EST, you wrote:
>>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>>
>>Hi All!
>>
>>Need some input, again! Didn't follow the thread a while back on
>>Chimenea's, which might have been helpful to me now. If you would rather
>>reply off list, my other 'e' address is listed at the end.
>>The Pastor of my church has requested a very, very large bowl in which to
>>burn paper. I fire in an electric kiln (cone 6) and use a buff
>>stoneware and am not sure if this would be a good choice. Although the
>>clay would be fired high, I am concerned with quick expansion (direct
>>fire within) and don't want it to crack with flames running amuck!. With
>>the heat, I'm assuming the bowl will have to be up on a metal stand. How
>>high will the stand need to be to give enough space between the bowl and
>>the alter? Or will feet on the bowl suffice? If anyone has had any
>>experience with a situation like this, I need all the advice you can
>>give. Did you glaze the piece?
>>The chimenea's are built with terra cotta and are able to handle direct
>>burning. Is anything else added to their clay? Would it be wise to
>>choose terra cotta for the bowl? Or maybe raku?
>>Please help!
>>
>>As the saying goes "Why me Lord?"
>>
>>Sande
>>sbenscoter@juno.com
>>
>>
>>
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>
>
Joseph Carames on thu 18 nov 99
Hi
I have been using my first bowls - 7 years old - continuously as smudge
pots. I burn sage and charcoal in the bowl. it gets hot too hot to hold
and I usually have a cork trevet underneath the pots when they have
something burning in them the cork gets hot but nothing has burn but the
contents and the pots have remained whole and unphased by the heat and
flames. These are all low fire terra cotta. also i let the ash
accumulaten so it also adds some insulation.
I would think that raku clay fired to cone 6 should be fine. the shape
may also be a factor if the top is open then the heat will dissapate more
quickly, if the pots is narrow toward the top it will have to sustain
more heat shock.
Good luck
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Hi All!
Need some input, again! Didn't follow the thread a while back on
Chimenea's, which might have been helpful to me now. If you would rather
reply off list, my other 'e' address is listed at the end. The Pastor of
my church has requested a very, very large bowl in which to burn paper.
I fire in an electric kiln (cone 6) and use a buff stoneware and am not
sure if this would be a good choice. Although the clay would be fired
high, I am concerned with quick expansion (direct fire within) and don't
want it to crack with flames running amuck!. With the heat, I'm assuming
the bowl will have to be up on a metal stand. How high will the stand
need to be to give enough space between the bowl and the alter? Or will
feet on the bowl suffice? If anyone has had any experience with a
situation like this, I need all the advice you can
give. Did you glaze the piece? The chimenea's are built with terra cotta
and are able to handle direct burning. Is anything else added to their
clay? Would it be wise to
choose terra cotta for the bowl? Or maybe raku?
Please help!
As the saying goes "Why me Lord?"
Sande
sbenscoter@juno.com
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