Clayart China on fri 26 nov 99
I don't know anyone tried this before.
A friend and I started a new business call "The Clayground" in Silican
Valley, California Sept. 1999, which is a combination of school and studio.
We teach children and adults, we also do customer firing.
Few days ago, a lady asked me to fire some pieces with glaze on the bottom,
and she just want to keep that way. We don't have any stilts in our studio.
So, I tried to use some regular nailes. I put nailes upright, (tips on top),
and use small piece of wet clay to support the bottom. I made three nailes
for each glazed work.
It works good! I think, I would not buy any stilts!
Guangzhen "Po" Zhou
The Clayground, California.
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WHew536674@cs.com on sun 28 nov 99
Po,
Neat idea of using nails. What cone were you firing to? I'd like to try it,
but concerned about nails melting at cone 9. Let us know.
Thanks,
Joyce A
Maureen Hicks on sun 28 nov 99
This sounds good but to what cone temp did you fire the nails and what type
of nails were you using?
I believe that this information would make a difference since I have tried to
fire using a metal for an ornament rather than purchasing the regular wire
nichrome at the high expense of the wire...just used cheap wire and it melted
in my kiln.
Maureen
Clayart China on mon 29 nov 99
I do low firing only cone 06-04. but you may try high firing. I am not sure
that would be works.
My suggestion is: you may fire the stilts first before you realy use them,
because wet clay shrinks.
I don't know anyone tried this before.
>
>A friend and I started a new business call "The Clayground" in Silican
>Valley, California Sept. 1999, which is a combination of school and studio.
>We teach children and adults, we also do customer firing.
>
>Few days ago, a lady asked me to fire some pieces with glaze on the bottom,
>and she just want to keep that way. We don't have any stilts in our studio.
>So, I tried to use some regular nailes. I put nailes upright, (tips on
>top),
>and use small piece of wet clay to support the bottom. I made three nailes
>for each glazed work.
>It works good! I think, I would not buy any stilts!
>Guangzhen "Po" Zhou
>The Clayground, California.
>
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Earl Brunner on mon 29 nov 99
If you are concerned about the nails melting you could certainly make your own
out of wads of clay with peices of nichrome wire instead of ordinary nails. The
issue of whether or not the idea will work at cone 9 is a different one
altogether. I suspect that if it was real feasable, we would have commercial
ones on the market for that range.
WHew536674@cs.com wrote:
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Po,
> Neat idea of using nails. What cone were you firing to? I'd like to try it,
> but concerned about nails melting at cone 9. Let us know.
> Thanks,
> Joyce A
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Gerald Durbin on mon 29 nov 99
Check out stainless steel nails
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From:
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Sent: Sunday, November 28, 1999 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: no need buy stilts;little invention
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Po,
> Neat idea of using nails. What cone were you firing to? I'd like to try
it,
> but concerned about nails melting at cone 9. Let us know.
> Thanks,
> Joyce A
>
Claudia C Maciel on tue 30 nov 99
Where is "clayground-studio and school" in "silicon valley?" San Jose,
Milpitas, Los Gatos. . .? What are your facilities like-gas,
electric,-any details? Student-teacher ratio?
Are you handbuilding or is this one of those ceramic paint a pot places
similar to Petroglyphs in Willow Glen? Just wondering about resources
near me since you are a new business.
Thanks and good luck with your new place!!!
Claudia Maciel
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Ray Aldridge on tue 30 nov 99
At 02:51 PM 11/29/99 EST, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>If you are concerned about the nails melting you could certainly make your
own
>out of wads of clay with peices of nichrome wire instead of ordinary
nails. The
>issue of whether or not the idea will work at cone 9 is a different one
>altogether. I suspect that if it was real feasable, we would have commercial
>ones on the market for that range.
>
Earl, you're probably right, but I wonder if perhaps the reason no one uses
stilts at high temps is because we were all taught that it wouldn't work,
that the stilts would push up through the pyroplastic clay at the height of
firing. That's what I always thought, even though I do set saltglaze
porcelain on small wads, and never noticed any distortion from it. Poor
observation on my part.
I seem to recall that someone mentioned using homemade spurs pinched out of
clay for setting porcelain or stoneware, and at the time I thought that
this might be a very good idea for folks who are working with
macrocrystalline glazes (which typically run off the pot.) It would
probably be a lot easier to grind the bottom of a pot that was set on
several points (on top of a pad) than to grind a pot set directly on a pad
and glued to it by running glaze.
Ray
Aldridge Porcelain and Stoneware
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David Hendley on thu 2 dec 99
I just wanted to let you interested people know that
I have made and used stilts, or spurs, for Cone 10 firings
-just used my regular clay, and stuck two 1/2" pieces
of nichrome wire in it.
I used these to fire scoops. The spurs held up the
scoop end, so it could be glazed all over, and the
end of the handle was the third contact point, directly
on the kiln shelf.
This worked great. You want a scoop to be smooth
and glazed all over the scoop part. The two tiny
contact points were not noticeable.
I would not do this to glaze a stoneware pot bottom,
a la earthenware, for aesthetic reasons.
It just ain't natural.
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Maydelle, Texas
hendley@tyler.net
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----- Original Message -----
From: Ray Aldridge
To:
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: no need buy stilts;little invention
| ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
| At 02:51 PM 11/29/99 EST, you wrote:
| >----------------------------Original message----------------------------
| >If you are concerned about the nails melting you could certainly make
your
| own
| >out of wads of clay with peices of nichrome wire instead of ordinary
| nails. The
| >issue of whether or not the idea will work at cone 9 is a different one
| >altogether. I suspect that if it was real feasable, we would have
commercial
| >ones on the market for that range.
| >
|
| Earl, you're probably right, but I wonder if perhaps the reason no one
uses
| stilts at high temps is because we were all taught that it wouldn't work,
| that the stilts would push up through the pyroplastic clay at the height
of
| firing. That's what I always thought, even though I do set saltglaze
| porcelain on small wads, and never noticed any distortion from it. Poor
| observation on my part.
|
| I seem to recall that someone mentioned using homemade spurs pinched out
of
| clay for setting porcelain or stoneware, and at the time I thought that
| this might be a very good idea for folks who are working with
| macrocrystalline glazes (which typically run off the pot.) It would
| probably be a lot easier to grind the bottom of a pot that was set on
| several points (on top of a pad) than to grind a pot set directly on a pad
| and glued to it by running glaze.
|
| Ray
|
|
| Aldridge Porcelain and Stoneware
| http://www.goodpots.com
|
| |
|
