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choice of kiln -vote for l&l econo

updated thu 9 dec 99

 

elizabeth priddy on mon 6 dec 99

the L shaped element holders in the econo kiln
keep the elements in good shape over time.
I have a 13 yr old that is still in its first
set of elements with heavy use. i also have
added a section to the kiln with no problem.
You can expand the kiln larger, you also can
set it up with only the one ring to use for test
kiln if you are in a big testing phase and want
to fire many small batches of tests faster. I
have two of same that co-use all the same
furniture. it is very efficient that way.
They are good through ^10, no problem.
---
Elizabeth Priddy

email: epriddy@usa.net
http://www.angelfire.com/nc/clayworkshop
Clay: 12,000 yrs and still fresh!





On Sun, 5 Dec 1999 10:48:13 kblack wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Since retirement from public school, I have been a "listener" on the list ,
>hoping to get some pointers for starting out with my new potters wheel that
>I bought at our State Art Teacher "Convention. The Brent CXC is great, but
>my old kiln is pretty sick. My Skutt (1970's vintage) keeps blowing it's
>top electrical control, so I am anticipating purchasing a new kiln. One
>store advises to buy their Econo Kiln and the other store extols the
>virtues of the Skutt kiln. Both are comparable in price. Also which is
>more reliable, the electronic control or the manual control? At least I
>can bisque fire for a while in the bottom section of the old kiln by piling
>the greenware on top of each other. What a time of year to have a
>break-down...the kiln, not me. Can anyone help me make a decision?
>Kathy B
>


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John Hesselberth on tue 7 dec 99

ditto for me. I'm for the L&L. I had a Skutt and it was OK, but the
ceramic element holders of the L&L give it a distinct competitive
advantage--elements don't fall out of the grooves and down the wall of
the kiln as they ago and they can be changed without breaking off pieces
of brick. When it came time to sell my Skutt and buy a bigger kiln, the
L&L was my choice and I am very happy with it. John

elizabeth priddy wrote:

>the L shaped element holders in the econo kiln
>keep the elements in good shape over time.
>I have a 13 yr old that is still in its first
>set of elements with heavy use. i also have
>added a section to the kiln with no problem.
> You can expand the kiln larger, you also can
>set it up with only the one ring to use for test
>kiln if you are in a big testing phase and want
>to fire many small batches of tests faster. I
>have two of same that co-use all the same
>furniture. it is very efficient that way.
>They are good through ^10, no problem.
>---
>Elizabeth Priddy


John Hesselberth
Frog Pond Pottery
P.O. Box 88
Pocopson, PA 19366 USA
EMail: john@frogpondpottery.com web site: http://www.frogpondpottery.com

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David Woodin on wed 8 dec 99

I have problems with changing elements in all the L&L's that I have worked
on. The holders are too small and you end up spending lots of time picking
out small pieces of broken elements, plus breaking some holders. I
understand that you can get bigger holders for their heavy duty elements.
David

Tom Wirt on wed 8 dec 99



> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
snip--elements don't fall out of the grooves and down the wall of
> the kiln as they ago and they can be changed without breaking off pieces
> of brick.


This brings to mind something I've been going to post for a while. Last
time we did a major overhaul on our Skutt 1027-3 and Cone Art 2827, we
dipped the elements in ITC 213....the metal coating goop. Interesting that
once gently stuck in place, they still feel almost like new elements (maybe
25 bisque firings) and they don't wander around....just sit in their little
grooves and behave. Even though a couple look like they should be pinned
in, I haven't and they haven't moved.

It was a bit messy applying the stuff, but our impression is that it
essentially stops element degradation.

Tom Wirt