Liz Gowen on mon 6 dec 99
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Just to clarify some tap water is chlorinated but much weaker than the =
10=25
solution used to kill HIV .
Liz Gowen
snip
=22Chlorine does kill HIV. Just ordinary chlorinated water
will do it.=22
Cindy Strnad on tue 7 dec 99
Hi, Liz
Could be that a 10% solution of bleach is standard for sanitizing rooms
occupied by HIV positive patients, however, at Lakeland Regional in Florida,
we were assured by risk control that our chlorinated tap water was all that
was necessary. Naturally, when you *know* you're working with an infected
patient, it's only human nature to be a lot more careful. Probably wise,
too.
Cindy Strnad
Earthen Vessels Pottery
Custer, SD
Liz Gowen on wed 15 dec 99
Cindy, sorry this is taking so long to get back but I am waaaaaayyyyy behind
on reading my messages. I am not sure who told you that about the tap water
but the accepted solution from the center for disease control is a 10%
solution, Chlorinated tap water will not do. I worked in an OR as a
perfusionist and in homecare as an IV nurse
( RN), for many years and one must assume anyone can be a carrier .
Universal precautions should be taken with anyone because if you find out
after the fact that they have HIV and you have been exposed, it is too
little too late. Mind you every one that is exposed dose not contract the
disease, thank God. If I was still working I would dig you up a copy of the
universal precaution standards. I have been out over 3 years, sorry.
The solution is easy to make with chlorox and water in a spray bottle,
to wipe down counters etc. I hadn't thought about the hand rinsing bucket
since I work solo in my studio. Something to think about.
I believe I read you have a pug mill. What type and how huge is it?
Deairing? I am debating about getting one but don't want to give up a huge
amount of space in the studio( never enough space ) I am trying to adapt my
studio after an accident involving my back. I am having pain when I wedge,
thought it might help but if it is major work to maintain it might not be
the answer I want. (Perhaps a slave of some sort?)
I am also debating about going to the conference in Denver in March. I
agree room rates are high in the hotel the conference is in.
I have flying squirels in the attic and may have to shell out some major
bucks I wasn't counting on to have the house capped, so has put a crimp in
my original plans.
Liz Gowen elgowen@jersey.net
-----Original Message-----
From: Cindy Strnad
To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Date: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 7:24 AM
Subject: Re: re chlorinated water and HIV
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Hi, Liz
>
>Could be that a 10% solution of bleach is standard for sanitizing rooms
>occupied by HIV positive patients, however, at Lakeland Regional in
Florida,
>we were assured by risk control that our chlorinated tap water was all that
>was necessary. Naturally, when you *know* you're working with an infected
>patient, it's only human nature to be a lot more careful. Probably wise,
>too.
>
>Cindy Strnad
>Earthen Vessels Pottery
>Custer, SD
>
Cindy Strnad on thu 16 dec 99
Hi again, Liz.
Well, I defer to you, as I've been out of nursing for nearly eight years
, and out of critical care for longer than that, so you likely have a
much more modern version of the U.P. recommendations. I work alone, which is
good, as I wouldn't think a 10% solution of chlorine bleach in the water
bucket would do anything nice for my hands. Not that I've ever been much of
a fan of paranoia. Of course, nursing is a lot more dangerous than potting.
I got a Peter Pugger VP-30, and it's, I'm estimating, about 3 1/2 or 4 feet
long by about 1 1/2 feet wide. No trouble to keep it up, as it doesn't need
cleaning unless you're changing from dark to light clay. Nothing drys inside
so long as the lid's down. It's got to be tight, you know, on account of the
vacuum pump. I'm extremely pleased with it, and as I don't use large amounts
of clay (lots of decorating time instead), I want to start making my own.
Haven't gotten to that yet.
It will batch mix, de-air, and pug. Presently, I'm using it to recycle and
warm up "boughten" clay. My elbows have almost fully recovered, which they
made plain they weren't about to do so long as I continued to abuse them
with all that wedging and kneading. Likely it will never pay for itself in
clay savings, but I'm betting it will do so quickly in increased
productivity. Even if it never did, it's a lot cheaper and nicer than joint
replacement.
I do hope you can make it to NCECA. I've filled up a room--well, two,
actually, but I didn't reserve the second one. If you decide to come, I'm
sure you'll manage to find roommates. Another post to Clayart should do it,
no problem.
If you have any other questions about the pug mill, don't hesitate. I'll
help all I can.
Cindy
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