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odors detected even though using kilnvent

updated thu 6 jan 00

 

Arnold Howard on tue 4 jan 00

Dear All:

Heidi detects firing odors even though she is using an
Orton Kilnvent. I have never heard of this problem
before. Has anyone else experienced it?

Thanks,

Arnold Howard


> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 14:14:22 EST
> > > From: Heidi Haugen
> > > To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
> > > Subject: kiln fumes
> > > Resent-Subject: kiln fumes
> > > ----------------------------Original
> message----------------------------
> > > I recently installed a kiln vent (stand
> version) and have been using it
> > > for about 6 weeks now. I'm firing to cone 6
> and have noticed that for
> > > about the last 4 hours of the firing I can
> smell a strong odor. I feel
> > > that I installed the vent properly as it passed
> the Orton "match test"
> > > (turning the vent on, lid closed, and holding a
> lit match to the hole in
> > > the lid and if the flame is pulled into the
> kiln the vent should be
> > > functioning.) I'm curious if there is just an
> unavoidable "hot metal"
> > > smell associated with taking a kiln to such a
> hot temp. Any
> > > comments/thoughts would be helpful as I'm in
> the studio with the kiln
> > > firing away several times a week.
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > > Heidi Haugen
> > -------------------------------
> > Try testing with a match at the time the odor is
> prevalent. If it still tips
> > strongly in, then its the outside of the kiln
> getting hot that you smell.
> > If, instead, the draw has changed and is weak,
> then the amounts of gases
> > being released at those high temperatures are
> overwhelming the negative draw.
> >
> > This usually happens at lower temperatures when
> people use a lot of wax
> > resist, fire paper clay or some such. But there
> are things that could do it
> > at higher temps also.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > Monona Rossol
> > ACTS
> > 181 Thompson St., # 23
> > NYC NY 10012-2586 212/777-0062
> >
> > ACTSNYC@cs.com
>

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Louis H.. Katz on wed 5 jan 00

Yes,
Although I use a Skutt product. My understanding is that both of these
products were developed as a way to even out firing temperatures and make
firings have a more repeatable atmosphere. I suspect that the smell is
happening around 450 degrees when solid organic materials are breaking down
into gaseous ones.
Louis

Arnold Howard wrote:

> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Dear All:
>
> Heidi detects firing odors even though she is using an
> Orton Kilnvent. I have never heard of this problem
> before. Has anyone else experienced it?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Arnold Howard
>
> > > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 14:14:22 EST
> > > > From: Heidi Haugen
> > > > To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
> > > > Subject: kiln fumes
> > > > Resent-Subject: kiln fumes
> > > > ----------------------------Original
> > message----------------------------
> > > > I recently installed a kiln vent (stand
> > version) and have been using it
> > > > for about 6 weeks now. I'm firing to cone 6
> > and have noticed that for
> > > > about the last 4 hours of the firing I can
> > smell a strong odor. I feel
> > > > that I installed the vent properly as it passed
> > the Orton "match test"
> > > > (turning the vent on, lid closed, and holding a
> > lit match to the hole in
> > > > the lid and if the flame is pulled into the
> > kiln the vent should be
> > > > functioning.) I'm curious if there is just an
> > unavoidable "hot metal"
> > > > smell associated with taking a kiln to such a
> > hot temp. Any
> > > > comments/thoughts would be helpful as I'm in
> > the studio with the kiln
> > > > firing away several times a week.
> > > > Thanks in advance,
> > > > Heidi Haugen
> > > -------------------------------
> > > Try testing with a match at the time the odor is
> > prevalent. If it still tips
> > > strongly in, then its the outside of the kiln
> > getting hot that you smell.
> > > If, instead, the draw has changed and is weak,
> > then the amounts of gases
> > > being released at those high temperatures are
> > overwhelming the negative draw.
> > >
> > > This usually happens at lower temperatures when
> > people use a lot of wax
> > > resist, fire paper clay or some such. But there
> > are things that could do it
> > > at higher temps also.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps.
> > >
> > > Monona Rossol
> > > ACTS
> > > 181 Thompson St., # 23
> > > NYC NY 10012-2586 212/777-0062
> > >
> > > ACTSNYC@cs.com
> >
>
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Patti M.Fox on wed 5 jan 00

Heidi--
I also use an Orton Kilnvent, and it has always passed the 'match test',
but
sometimes I've noted extremely unpleasant fumes. Be sure to check your
venting-- mine had broken loose from the outside wall and some of the
fumes
were coming back in from that location. You may need to replace your
duct
and/or duct tape.
Patti from Wisconsin
(will winter ever arrive?)

Arnold Howard wrote:

> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Dear All:
>
> Heidi detects firing odors even though she is using an
> Orton Kilnvent. I have never heard of this problem
> before. Has anyone else experienced it?
>