clennell on wed 5 jan 00
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Hello all!
>
>Here is a question to ponder... Could you build a high fire kiln out of
>house b
>
>I was constructing a kiln in my mind as I was driving yesterday...I often
>do thi
>
>This is my first actual question to Clayart, tho' I have been a subscriber
>for a
>
>Thanks!
>Pat Lindemann
>
>
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Dear Pat: A friend of mine built a kiln using house brick for the floor of
the kiln thinking they were hard brick. They were firing the kiln and
looked in the peeps when Cone 9 should have been tipping. He announced to
his friends that Cone 9 was going down. No, I really mean it is going down
and not tipping. The floor was melting and the Cone that should have been
at the top peep hole ended up at the bottom peep hole. The flood was
melting.
I say use house brick for houses and refractory brick for kilns. There is
really not that much difference in price. Probably the difference in price
of bricks is about the price of a gallon of ITC. I'd buy the firebricks
and the ITC. No such thing as over building, if you're in this for the long
run.
Cheers,
Tony
Tony and Sheila Clennell
Sour Cherry Pottery
4545 King St.
Beamsville, On. L0R 1B1
http://www.sourcherrypottery.com (website)
905-563-9382
fax 905-563-9383
Stephen Mills on sat 8 jan 00
TC,
There are House Bricks & House Bricks! My woodfire cone 10 plus kiln is
built out of house bricks, made from a buff burning clay mined just
north of Bristol (UK), They are tough as old boots and seriously cheaper
than "official" fire bricks. I would suggest that if a brick company
sells a buff coloured brick, it would be worth seeing just how high they
will go.
Steve
Bath
UK
In message , clennell writes
>Dear Pat: A friend of mine built a kiln using house brick for the floor of
>the kiln thinking they were hard brick. They were firing the kiln and
>looked in the peeps when Cone 9 should have been tipping. He announced to
>his friends that Cone 9 was going down. No, I really mean it is going down
>and not tipping. The floor was melting and the Cone that should have been
>at the top peep hole ended up at the bottom peep hole. The flood was
>melting.
>I say use house brick for houses and refractory brick for kilns. There is
>really not that much difference in price. Probably the difference in price
>of bricks is about the price of a gallon of ITC. I'd buy the firebricks
>and the ITC. No such thing as over building, if you're in this for the long
>run.
>Cheers,
>Tony
>
>Tony and Sheila Clennell
>Sour Cherry Pottery
>4545 King St.
>Beamsville, On. L0R 1B1
>
>http://www.sourcherrypottery.com (website)
>
> 905-563-9382
> fax 905-563-9383
>
--
Steve Mills
Bath
UK
home e-mail: stevemills@mudslinger.demon.co.uk
work e-mail: stevemills@bathpotters.demon.co.uk
own website: http://www.mudslinger.demon.co.uk
BPS website: http://www.bathpotters.demon.co.uk
Tel: **44 (0)1225 311699
Fax: **44 (0)870 0526466
"My whole being cries out against the inhumanity of regular employment"
(Wilde)
Janet Kaiser on sun 9 jan 00
Steve
It is not only buff coloured brick you have used... So-called "engineering"
bricks are pretty high-fired little devils, which we used to build a neat
little outdoor kiln as students. Maybe worth checking out too.
Janet Kaiser
-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Mills
To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Date: 08 January 2000 19:17
Subject: Re: House bricks- no thanks!
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
TC,
There are House Bricks & House Bricks! My woodfire cone 10 plus kiln is
built out of house bricks, made from a buff burning clay mined just
north of Bristol (UK), They are tough as old boots and seriously cheaper
than "official" fire bricks. I would suggest that if a brick company
sells a buff coloured brick, it would be worth seeing just how high they
will go.
Steve
Bath
UK
In message , clennell writes
>Dear Pat: A friend of mine built a kiln using house brick for the floor of
>the kiln thinking they were hard brick. They were firing the kiln and
>looked in the peeps when Cone 9 should have been tipping. He announced to
>his friends that Cone 9 was going down. No, I really mean it is going down
>and not tipping. The floor was melting and the Cone that should have been
>at the top peep hole ended up at the bottom peep hole. The flood was
>melting.
>I say use house brick for houses and refractory brick for kilns. There is
>really not that much difference in price. Probably the difference in price
>of bricks is about the price of a gallon of ITC. I'd buy the firebricks
>and the ITC. No such thing as over building, if you're in this for the long
>run.
>Cheers,
>Tony
>
>Tony and Sheila Clennell
>Sour Cherry Pottery
>4545 King St.
>Beamsville, On. L0R 1B1
>
>http://www.sourcherrypottery.com (website)
>
> 905-563-9382
> fax 905-563-9383
>
--
Steve Mills
Bath
UK
home e-mail: stevemills@mudslinger.demon.co.uk
work e-mail: stevemills@bathpotters.demon.co.uk
own website: http://www.mudslinger.demon.co.uk
BPS website: http://www.bathpotters.demon.co.uk
Tel: **44 (0)1225 311699
Fax: **44 (0)870 0526466
"My whole being cries out against the inhumanity of regular employment"
(Wilde)
elizabeth priddy on sun 9 jan 00
if you want to know if the bricks will hold up,
you could fire it in a saggar in someone's kiln and see what happens.
It won't tell you, though, how well it will
handle the heat over many firings. Is there
any way to check the individual batches of
bricks, because house brick does tend to vary.
the bricks in my 200+ yr old house are
primarily sand as that is what was available...
---
Elizabeth Priddy
email: epriddy@usa.net
http://www.angelfire.com/nc/clayworkshop
Clay: 12,000 yrs and still fresh!
On Sat, 8 Jan 2000 14:14:43 Stephen Mills wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>TC,
>
>There are House Bricks & House Bricks! My woodfire cone 10 plus kiln is
>built out of house bricks, made from a buff burning clay mined just
>north of Bristol (UK), They are tough as old boots and seriously cheaper
>than "official" fire bricks. I would suggest that if a brick company
>sells a buff coloured brick, it would be worth seeing just how high they
>will go.
>
>Steve
>Bath
>UK
>
>
>In message , clennell writes
>>Dear Pat: A friend of mine built a kiln using house brick for the floor of
>>the kiln thinking they were hard brick. They were firing the kiln and
>>looked in the peeps when Cone 9 should have been tipping. He announced to
>>his friends that Cone 9 was going down. No, I really mean it is going down
>>and not tipping. The floor was melting and the Cone that should have been
>>at the top peep hole ended up at the bottom peep hole. The flood was
>>melting.
>>I say use house brick for houses and refractory brick for kilns. There is
>>really not that much difference in price. Probably the difference in price
>>of bricks is about the price of a gallon of ITC. I'd buy the firebricks
>>and the ITC. No such thing as over building, if you're in this for the long
>>run.
>>Cheers,
>>Tony
>>
>>Tony and Sheila Clennell
>>Sour Cherry Pottery
>>4545 King St.
>>Beamsville, On. L0R 1B1
>>
>>http://www.sourcherrypottery.com (website)
>>
>> 905-563-9382
>> fax 905-563-9383
>>
>
>--
>Steve Mills
>Bath
>UK
>home e-mail: stevemills@mudslinger.demon.co.uk
>work e-mail: stevemills@bathpotters.demon.co.uk
>own website: http://www.mudslinger.demon.co.uk
>BPS website: http://www.bathpotters.demon.co.uk
>Tel: **44 (0)1225 311699
>Fax: **44 (0)870 0526466
>"My whole being cries out against the inhumanity of regular employment"
> (Wilde)
>
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John K Dellow on tue 11 jan 00
What you look for is a white brick that is made with a kaolin and
or fire clay. Not a red brick which has a white slip on it. We
have a least 2 brick companies in eastern australia that make
whit bricks. I have been using an extruded brick ( 3 holes in
each brick ) as a bag wall in my terra-cotta kilns also for the
chequered floor . My friend Colin drake built his salt kiln out
of dry pressed white house bricks and has had 50 firings in that
kiln to C10 .
elizabeth prissy wrote:
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> if you want to know if the bricks will hold up,
> you could fire it in a saggar in someone's kiln and see what happens.
>
> It won't tell you, though, how well it will
> handle the heat over many firings. Is there
> any way to check the individual batches of
> bricks, because house brick does tend to vary.
>
> the bricks in my 200+ yr old house are
> primarily sand as that is what was available...
>
> ---
> Elizabeth Priddy
>
> email: epriddy@usa.net
> http://www.angelfire.com/nc/clayworkshop
> Clay: 12,000 yrs and still fresh!
>
> On Sat, 8 Jan 2000 14:14:43 Stephen Mills wrote:
> >----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> >TC,
> >
> >There are House Bricks & House Bricks! My woodfire cone 10 plus kiln is
> >built out of house bricks, made from a buff burning clay mined just
> >north of Bristol (UK), They are tough as old boots and seriously cheaper
> >than "official" fire bricks. I would suggest that if a brick company
> >sells a buff coloured brick, it would be worth seeing just how high they
> >will go.
> >
> >Steve
> >Bath
> >UK
> >
> >
> >In message , clennell writes
> >>Dear Pat: A friend of mine built a kiln using house brick for the floor of
> >>the kiln thinking they were hard brick. They were firing the kiln and
> >>looked in the peeps when Cone 9 should have been tipping. He announced to
> >>his friends that Cone 9 was going down. No, I really mean it is going down
> >>and not tipping. The floor was melting and the Cone that should have been
> >>at the top peep hole ended up at the bottom peep hole. The flood was
> >>melting.
> >>I say use house brick for houses and refractory brick for kilns. There is
> >>really not that much difference in price. Probably the difference in price
> >>of bricks is about the price of a gallon of ITC. I'd buy the firebricks
> >>and the ITC. No such thing as over building, if you're in this for the long
> >>run.
> >>Cheers,
> >>Tony
> >>
> >>Tony and Sheila Clennell
> >>Sour Cherry Pottery
> >>4545 King St.
> >>Beamsville, On. L0R 1B1
> >>
> >>http://www.sourcherrypottery.com (website)
> >>
> >> 905-563-9382
> >> fax 905-563-9383
> >>
> >
> >--
> >Steve Mills
> >Bath
> >UK
> >home e-mail: stevemills@mudslinger.demon.co.uk
> >work e-mail: stevemills@bathpotters.demon.co.uk
> >own website: http://www.mudslinger.demon.co.uk
> >BPS website: http://www.bathpotters.demon.co.uk
> >Tel: **44 (0)1225 311699
> >Fax: **44 (0)870 0526466
> >"My whole being cries out against the inhumanity of regular employment"
> > (Wilde)
> >
>
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