judy motzkin on wed 19 jan 00
> Once you have tried to make transclucent
porcelain you realize how
>inadequate opaque "whitewares" are at imitating this
demanding standard.
>People can call things what they wish; that is the
nature of language, but
>when someone says "pit fired porcelain" it makes me
wince.>
I too wince, especially when I find that the galleries
that sell my work, which is white low fire clay,
pit/saggar fired, are telling the public that they are
porcelain or raku or (imagine this) both. Save us all.
J
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Antoinette Badenhorst on wed 19 jan 00
For that reason, Judy, I normally write out the
description of a piece myself. If a gallery owner do
not know what they are selling, it is our
responsibility to explain to them what they are
dealing with.
Regards.
Antoinette.
--- judy motzkin wrote:
> ----------------------------Original
> message----------------------------
> > Once you have tried to make transclucent
> porcelain you realize how
> >inadequate opaque "whitewares" are at imitating
> this
> demanding standard.
> >People can call things what they wish; that is the
> nature of language, but
> >when someone says "pit fired porcelain" it makes me
> wince.>
>
> I too wince, especially when I find that the
> galleries
> that sell my work, which is white low fire clay,
> pit/saggar fired, are telling the public that they
> are
> porcelain or raku or (imagine this) both. Save us
> all.
>
> J
>
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Susan Fox Hirschmann on sun 23 jan 00
To all out there selling to galleries, i have an interesting story, that
really happennd.
A couple of years ago , I actually had a very well know chicago gallery
return a teapot to me , without a lid, (saying that the customer had broken
it)_ and ask me to make a new lid for that pot. (mind you these are wheel
thrown , airbrushed multiple fired pieces!)
My response: I told he to go take a pottery class, so she would understand
the nature of what she was selling! While explaining to her why it was not
possible to create a lid that would fit as exactly, nor would match color
wise to the pot.
When poeple chose to go into business and sell handmade works, i believe the
least they can do is go into the business with some basic understanding of
how the pieces are made. They are not just selling the artist, and the art,
but SHOULD be educating the public on the nature of the work. One would hope
they would approach the gallery-business in an educated way. The more i am
in this creative business of wholesaling to galleries, the more i realize the
ignorance out there in the "real world."
oh well.
susan
fox
hirschmann, in frigid wind driven northern virginia
Joy Holdread on mon 24 jan 00
In a message dated 1/23/00 4:46:17 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
Hirsch616@aol.com writes:
> To all out there selling to galleries, i have an interesting story, that
> really happennd.
> A couple of years ago , I actually had a very well know chicago gallery
> return a teapot to me , without a lid, (saying that the customer had broken
> it)_ and ask me to make a new lid for that pot. (mind you these are wheel
> thrown , airbrushed multiple fired pieces!)
> My response: I told he to go take a pottery class, so she would understand
> the nature of what she was selling! While explaining to her why it was not
> possible to create a lid that would fit as exactly, nor would match color
> wise to the pot.
>
> When poeple chose to go into business and sell handmade works, i believe
> the
> least they can do is go into the business with some basic understanding of
> how the pieces are made. They are not just selling the artist, and the
art,
> but SHOULD be educating the public on the nature of the work. One would
> hope
> they would approach the gallery-business in an educated way. The more i
am
> in this creative business of wholesaling to galleries, the more i realize
> the
> ignorance out there in the "real world."
>
> oh well.
> susan
>
> fox
>
> hirschmann, in frigid wind driven northern virginia
>
Well we can't always educate all gallery staff but what we owe ourselves to
educate ourselves on the consignment laws in the states we do business in &
Insist that the galleries abide by those laws. It's even OK to lobby & have
laws passed that protect artist's and craftspeople. In Arizona art works on
consignment are "trust Property" till the artist is paid in full. Any part of
a contract between the gallery & artist that is not in agreement with the
state laws is VOID. Please require galleries to treat you fairly & honestly.
Joy in Tucson
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