Carolynn Palmer on wed 19 jan 00
Having decided to buy up enough Gerstley Borate to last me the rest of my
life (I figure 500 lbs would do it) I set out to purchase the specific GB
that I have on hand and behaves so wonderfully in my glazes.
I contacted the company on the bag, AE Corporation, who it turns out only
grinds minerals. They sent me to Hammil & Gillespe who sell them. My bag
came from their Batch #8202.
Hammil & Gillespe sold Gerstley Borate, Batch #8202 during the latter part of
1998 and early 1999 to ceramic supply companies, etc.
I am looking for 1 to 10 bags of Batch #8202 Gerstley Borate. The bags say
8202 in a stencil on the end and AE Corporation on the front or back.
Please contact me off-list if you have this particular batch for sale or know
of a supplier who might have bought it during this time period.
Thank you, Carolynn Palmer, Somerset Center, Michigan
owlpotter@aol.com
david p george on thu 20 jan 00
Carolynn et al,
With the word out about GB and the fact that nearly all my glazes contain
GB, I decided to stock up as well. I must be older as I figured 100#
would suffice. I was surprised to learn today that Clayart in Tacoma
raised their price 50% since my inquiry 2 weeks ago when I was informed
that no acute shortage existed because their supplier (Laguna) had
purchased 200 tons. As justification for the price increase, I was told
that this was a "routine" price adjustment. A 50% increase over the
listed price in their "2000" catalog?!! Is this good business or price
gouging? Will GB suffer the fate of Albany slip? Available but at what
price? $5/lb? $50/lb?
dave in Olympia, feeling like a sheep being led to slaughter and
considering taking my business elsewhere.
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John Post on fri 21 jan 00
Hi Dave,
US Pigment has Gerstley Borate for 65 cents a pound if you purchase it in
50# bags.
They'll ship it UPS. They say it's going fast. Call them at 800-472-9500.
John Post
rp1mrvl@moa.net
At 06:18 PM 1/20/00 EST, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Carolynn et al,
>With the word out about GB and the fact that nearly all my glazes contain
>GB, I decided to stock up as well. I must be older as I figured 100#
>would suffice. I was surprised to learn today that Clayart in Tacoma
>raised their price 50% since my inquiry 2 weeks ago when I was informed
>that no acute shortage existed because their supplier (Laguna) had
>purchased 200 tons. As justification for the price increase, I was told
>that this was a "routine" price adjustment. A 50% increase over the
>listed price in their "2000" catalog?!! Is this good business or price
>gouging? Will GB suffer the fate of Albany slip? Available but at what
>price? $5/lb? $50/lb?
>dave in Olympia, feeling like a sheep being led to slaughter and
John Post
Sterling Heights, Michigan
rp1mrvl@moa.net
Wade Blocker on sat 22 jan 00
----------
> From: david p george
> To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
> Subject: Re: My Search for Gerstley Borate
> Date: Thursday, January 20, 2000 4:18 PM
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Carolynn et al,
> With the word out about GB and the fact that nearly all my glazes contain
> GB, I decided to stock up as well. I must be older as I figured 100#
> would suffice. I was surprised to learn today that Clayart in Tacoma
> raised their price 50% since my inquiry 2 weeks ago when I was informed
> that no acute shortage existed because their supplier (Laguna) had
> purchased 200 tons. As justification for the price increase, I was told
> that this was a "routine" price adjustment. A 50% increase over the
> listed price in their "2000" catalog?!! Is this good business or price
> gouging? Will GB suffer the fate of Albany slip? Available but at what
> price? $5/lb? $50/lb?
> dave in Olympia, feeling like a sheep being led to slaughter and
> considering taking my business elsewhere.
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David, I just bought some Gerstley Borate from NM Clay in ABQ and paid
$3.92 for l0lbs which I consider not unreasonable. For a larger quantity it
might even be cheaper per pound. Mia in ABQ
Lori Wilkinson on mon 24 jan 00
Mia, The Gerstley Borate you refer to below, did it say "Gerstley Borate"
or "Gerstley Borate, Colmomite" on the bag? I called the same supplier and
asked for Gerstley Borate this past week. The said they had it in stock.
The next day, I had it picked up and brought back down to Roswell. Much to
my surprise the bags were labeled, "Gerstley Borate, Culminate? I have
purchased from them for a number of years and the G.B. was was always just
labeled "Gerstley Borate". When I called them about it, they told me it was
the same thing, the person labeling the bags was new and made a mistake.
Don't know what to believe now. Any comments, anybody?
Lori Wilkinson
Roswell NM
-----Original Message-----
From: Wade Blocker
To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Date: Saturday, January 22, 2000 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: My Search for Gerstley Borate
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>
>
>----------
>> From: david p george
>> To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
>> Subject: Re: My Search for Gerstley Borate
>> Date: Thursday, January 20, 2000 4:18 PM
>>
>> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>> Carolynn et al,
>> With the word out about GB and the fact that nearly all my glazes contain
>> GB, I decided to stock up as well. I must be older as I figured 100#
>> would suffice. I was surprised to learn today that Clayart in Tacoma
>> raised their price 50% since my inquiry 2 weeks ago when I was informed
>> that no acute shortage existed because their supplier (Laguna) had
>> purchased 200 tons. As justification for the price increase, I was told
>> that this was a "routine" price adjustment. A 50% increase over the
>> listed price in their "2000" catalog?!! Is this good business or price
>> gouging? Will GB suffer the fate of Albany slip? Available but at what
>> price? $5/lb? $50/lb?
>> dave in Olympia, feeling like a sheep being led to slaughter and
>> considering taking my business elsewhere.
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>
>David, I just bought some Gerstley Borate from NM Clay in ABQ and paid
>$3.92 for l0lbs which I consider not unreasonable. For a larger quantity it
>might even be cheaper per pound. Mia in ABQ
>
Wade Blocker on tue 25 jan 00
----------
> From: Lori Wilkinson
> To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
> Subject: Re: My Search for Gerstley Borate
> Date: Monday, January 24, 2000 12:20 PM
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Mia, The Gerstley Borate you refer to below, did it say "Gerstley
Borate"
> or "Gerstley Borate, Colmomite" on the bag? I called the same supplier
and
> asked for Gerstley Borate this past week. The said they had it in stock.
> The next day, I had it picked up and brought back down to Roswell. Much
to
> my surprise the bags were labeled, "Gerstley Borate, Culminate? I have
> purchased from them for a number of years and the G.B. was was always
just
> labeled "Gerstley Borate". When I called them about it, they told me it
was
> the same thing, the person labeling the bags was new and made a mistake.
> Don't know what to believe now. Any comments, anybody?
>
> Lori Wilkinson
> Roswell NM
Dear Lori,
Colmomite is obviously a mispelling of Colemanite which is a naturally
occuring calcium borate. I think of GB as Colemanite and label my jar
accordingly. They obviously used both terms for GB. I have no doubt that it
is Gerstley Borate that you received. Their supplier is Laguna. So until
October there should not be any shortage.
I tossed the bag it came in, but have no doubt that it is what I ordered.
Mia in ABQ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wade Blocker
> To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
> Date: Saturday, January 22, 2000 2:31 PM
> Subject: Re: My Search for Gerstley Borate
>
>
> >----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> >
> >
> >----------
> >> From: david p george
> >> To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
> >> Subject: Re: My Search for Gerstley Borate
> >> Date: Thursday, January 20, 2000 4:18 PM
> >>
> >> ----------------------------Original
message----------------------------
> >> Carolynn et al,
> >> With the word out about GB and the fact that nearly all my glazes
contain
> >> GB, I decided to stock up as well. I must be older as I figured 100#
> >> would suffice. I was surprised to learn today that Clayart in Tacoma
> >> raised their price 50% since my inquiry 2 weeks ago when I was
informed
> >> that no acute shortage existed because their supplier (Laguna) had
> >> purchased 200 tons. As justification for the price increase, I was
told
> >> that this was a "routine" price adjustment. A 50% increase over the
> >> listed price in their "2000" catalog?!! Is this good business or
price
> >> gouging? Will GB suffer the fate of Albany slip? Available but at
what
> >> price? $5/lb? $50/lb?
> >> dave in Olympia, feeling like a sheep being led to slaughter and
> >> considering taking my business elsewhere.
> >> ________________________________________________________________
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> >
> >David, I just bought some Gerstley Borate from NM Clay in ABQ and paid
> >$3.92 for l0lbs which I consider not unreasonable. For a larger quantity
it
> >might even be cheaper per pound. Mia in ABQ
> >
Pamala Browne on tue 25 jan 00
----- Original Message -----
From: Lori Wilkinson
To:
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: My Search for Gerstley Borate
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Mia, The Gerstley Borate you refer to below, did it say "Gerstley Borate"
> or "Gerstley Borate, Colmomite" on the bag? I called the same supplier
and
> asked for Gerstley Borate this past week. The said they had it in stock.
> The next day, I had it picked up and brought back down to Roswell. Much
to
> my surprise the bags were labeled, "Gerstley Borate, Culminate? I have
> purchased from them for a number of years and the G.B. was was always just
> labeled "Gerstley Borate". When I called them about it, they told me it
was
> the same thing, the person labeling the bags was new and made a mistake.
> Don't know what to believe now. Any comments, anybody?
>
> Lori Wilkinson
> Roswell NM
Lori--
Don't know if it helps -- but our bags are marked Gerstley Borate
and the bin ( marked long ago ) says Gerstley Borate / Colemenite . I have
always assumed that this was referring to the changeover to GB from
Colemenite ( happened when --in the 70's ? ) letting people know that they
were interchangeable in a recipe . Chances are this is just a misspelling .
pamalab
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wade Blocker
> To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
> Date: Saturday, January 22, 2000 2:31 PM
> Subject: Re: My Search for Gerstley Borate
>
>
> >----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> >
> >
> >----------
> >> From: david p george
> >> To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
> >> Subject: Re: My Search for Gerstley Borate
> >> Date: Thursday, January 20, 2000 4:18 PM
> >>
> >> ----------------------------Original
message----------------------------
> >> Carolynn et al,
> >> With the word out about GB and the fact that nearly all my glazes
contain
> >> GB, I decided to stock up as well. I must be older as I figured 100#
> >> would suffice. I was surprised to learn today that Clayart in Tacoma
> >> raised their price 50% since my inquiry 2 weeks ago when I was informed
> >> that no acute shortage existed because their supplier (Laguna) had
> >> purchased 200 tons. As justification for the price increase, I was
told
> >> that this was a "routine" price adjustment. A 50% increase over the
> >> listed price in their "2000" catalog?!! Is this good business or price
> >> gouging? Will GB suffer the fate of Albany slip? Available but at
what
> >> price? $5/lb? $50/lb?
> >> dave in Olympia, feeling like a sheep being led to slaughter and
> >> considering taking my business elsewhere.
> >> ________________________________________________________________
> >> YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET!
> >> Juno now offers FREE Internet Access!
> >> Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit:
> >> http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
> >
> >David, I just bought some Gerstley Borate from NM Clay in ABQ and paid
> >$3.92 for l0lbs which I consider not unreasonable. For a larger quantity
it
> >might even be cheaper per pound. Mia in ABQ
> >
>
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