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raku plates

updated tue 25 jan 00

 

Catharine Murphy Engle on thu 20 jan 00

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Help=21 I am trying to fire some thin raku plates. If I pick up the hot =
plates
on the rim with tongs, the rims break. The next thing I tried was to make =
some
=22baskets=22 out of nichrome wire. I put the plate in the basket, fire it,=
and
lift out the plate via the basket. This works fairly well, but the wire is
expensive and lasts for only 1-2 firings. I have a top loading raku kiln. =
Does
anyone have another solution to getting the plates out of the kiln without
breaking the rims? Thanks=21

Catharine
cat=40engle-associates.com

Lori Wilkinson on fri 21 jan 00

Catharine, You could use old element wire if you have any around just as
you do the nichrome wire if you aren't doing too many. Should get a few
firings out of each without any additional cost.

Lori Wilkinson



-----Original Message-----
From: Catharine Murphy Engle
To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Date: Thursday, January 20, 2000 4:27 PM
Subject: Raku Plates


----------------------------Original message----------------------------
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Help! I am trying to fire some thin raku plates. If I pick up the hot
plates
on the rim with tongs, the rims break. The next thing I tried was to make
some
"baskets" out of nichrome wire. I put the plate in the basket, fire it, and
lift out the plate via the basket. This works fairly well, but the wire is
expensive and lasts for only 1-2 firings. I have a top loading raku kiln.
Does
anyone have another solution to getting the plates out of the kiln without
breaking the rims? Thanks!

Catharine
cat@engle-associates.com

Richard Jeffery on fri 21 jan 00

Catharine

I make raku clock faces - they're not [usually] fragile, but similar problem
in packing them up.

Don't use tongs - you need something that can be slipped underneath the
plate to lift it out. I deliberately built a front loader, so can use cheap
barbecue tools (fish slice?). With a top loader, you might try bending one
of these so that the flat end is at 90 degrees to the handle, or get
something made up.

Richard

Bournemouth UK

-----Original Message-----
From: Ceramic Arts Discussion List [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU]On Behalf
Of Catharine Murphy Engle
Sent: 20 January 2000 23:27
To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Subject: Raku Plates


----------------------------Original message----------------------------
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Help! I am trying to fire some thin raku plates. If I pick up the hot
plates
on the rim with tongs, the rims break. The next thing I tried was to make
some
"baskets" out of nichrome wire. I put the plate in the basket, fire it, and
lift out the plate via the basket. This works fairly well, but the wire is
expensive and lasts for only 1-2 firings. I have a top loading raku kiln.
Does
anyone have another solution to getting the plates out of the kiln without
breaking the rims? Thanks!

Catharine
cat@engle-associates.com

=?iso-8859-1?B?+fjl7w==?= on fri 21 jan 00

Hi
You better put them on a small bricks so that you can lift them with your
tongs. If you reduce in a can, you can prepare a screen, put it in
diagonal -It will help to pick up the plats without needing to turn over the
can(when the plats are stuck in the bottom.
Ababi
----- Original Message -----
From: Catharine Murphy Engle
To:
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2000 01:26
Subject: Raku Plates


----------------------------Original message----------------------------
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Help! I am trying to fire some thin raku plates. If I pick up the hot
plates
on the rim with tongs, the rims break. The next thing I tried was to make
some
"baskets" out of nichrome wire. I put the plate in the basket, fire it, and
lift out the plate via the basket. This works fairly well, but the wire is
expensive and lasts for only 1-2 firings. I have a top loading raku kiln.
Does
anyone have another solution to getting the plates out of the kiln without
breaking the rims? Thanks!

Catharine
cat@engle-associates.com

Gary Elfring on fri 21 jan 00


>Help! I am trying to fire some thin raku plates. If I pick up the hot plates
>on the rim with tongs, the rims break. The next thing I tried was to make
>some
>"baskets" out of nichrome wire. I put the plate in the basket, fire it, and
>lift out the plate via the basket. This works fairly well, but the wire is
>expensive and lasts for only 1-2 firings. I have a top loading raku
>kiln. Does
>anyone have another solution to getting the plates out of the kiln without
>breaking the rims? Thanks!


Try stainless steel wire- you can get it inexpensively at any welding
supply shop.
We use loops of it to hold the ceramic fiber insulation in place in our gas
raku kiln. The same wire has survived at least a hundred firings and is
still going strong.


Gary Elfring
ge@elfring.com

Kent / Pat on sat 22 jan 00

Hi Catherine

Though I cannot raku any longer, when I did, I used special gloves that were
available at the safety supply store. They were rated at more than 2000 dg
F and made from kevlar (Ithink). I also used some long arm "sleves" to
protect my upper arms. I was rakuing with a top hat and a rail load kiln
and able to lift huge and very fragile bowls and get them into reduction
VERY quickly and without breakage.

Hope this helps

Pat Porter
pporter@4dv.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Catharine Murphy Engle"
To:
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 3:26 PM
Subject: Raku Plates


----------------------------Original message----------------------------
------------------
Help! I am trying to fire some thin raku plates. If I pick up the hot
plates
on the rim with tongs, the rims break. The next thing I tried was to make
some
"baskets" out of nichrome wire. I put the plate in the basket, fire it, and
lift out the plate via the basket. This works fairly well, but the wire is
expensive and lasts for only 1-2 firings. I have a top loading raku kiln.
Does
anyone have another solution to getting the plates out of the kiln without
breaking the rims? Thanks!

Catharine
cat@engle-associates.com

Nancy Guido on sun 23 jan 00

I fire my tiles upright, I kind of lean them on bricks. I change bricks each
load so the new tile doesn't get fired on a hot brick. I don't put more
than 7 tiles in the kiln at a time. If the tiles are big I put less in,
but 7 is as many as I can get to the reduction bucket in a good time for the
effects that I want. I like a lot of room to get the tongs in and I like to
grab them as close to the middle as I can, even though the edges are usually
the same thickness they can get chipped or break. I use the scissor type of
tongs, I paid $1 at a garage sale (old fireplace tool), and I usually reduce
in a garbage can, sometimes I can put two in a can. There was also a recipe
in Clay Times for raku trays a few issues back. I made some for my
smaller tiles, but they broke apart after a while. I have also used the
plate setters you find in the supply catalogs, but after reduction they break
apart. Good luck with your plates.

CINDI ANDERSON on mon 24 jan 00

We have mittens that go up to 2000F. They are a Kevlar blend. You can
see a picture at
http://www.bigceramicstore.com/Supplies/safetyequip/safetyequip.htm.
Cindi


Kent / Pat wrote:
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Hi Catherine
>
> Though I cannot raku any longer, when I did, I used special gloves that were
> available at the safety supply store. They were rated at more than 2000 dg
> F and made from kevlar (Ithink). I also used some long arm "sleves" to
> protect my upper arms. I was rakuing with a top hat and a rail load kiln
> and able to lift huge and very fragile bowls and get them into reduction
> VERY quickly and without breakage.
>
> Hope this helps
>
> Pat Porter
> pporter@4dv.net
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Catharine Murphy Engle"
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 3:26 PM
> Subject: Raku Plates
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> ------------------
> Help! I am trying to fire some thin raku plates. If I pick up the hot
> plates
> on the rim with tongs, the rims break. The next thing I tried was to make
> some
> "baskets" out of nichrome wire. I put the plate in the basket, fire it, and
> lift out the plate via the basket. This works fairly well, but the wire is
> expensive and lasts for only 1-2 firings. I have a top loading raku kiln.
> Does
> anyone have another solution to getting the plates out of the kiln without
> breaking the rims? Thanks!
>
> Catharine
> cat@engle-associates.com