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kick wheel - sore legs

updated tue 1 feb 00

 

Mark & Pauline Donaldson-Drzazga on fri 28 jan 00

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Dear Clayarters,

one thing I forgot to mention about the fly wheel. Mine was the same weight =
(150
lbs) but all the weight was at the rim. I first cast concrete (lasted me 20
years of constant use) and bolted the ring to the wooden flywheel, I have =
now
used solid steel rounds, six in all, also bolted to the same wooden =
flywheel.
I must point out that it can outthrow any standard electric wheel for weight=
and
efficiency. You use a different technique throwing on a momentum kickwheel. =
As I
said in my previous post, speed is not necessary, and when you are throwing,=
the
wheel slows naturally and you adapt to the rythm of the wheel. You end up
throwing much more efficiently, without fiddling about. The standard =
electric
wheel is used far too often just for speed, as it has very little torque. I =
have
just got delivery of an electric wheel that was made specially to my
specifications, extremely low bottom speed, with not a great top speed, but =
with
plenty of torque. I have yet to give it a full trial, but I had no trouble =
with
slowing wheelhead speed with 30lbs. I'll try my normal 50 - 60 lbs over the
weekend, throwing chimney pot barrels and mouldings, all done in sections =
ands
then joined together when stiff, whole pot should weigh about 250 lbs.
Don't give up using a momentum kickwheel (certainly don't fart it up by =
putting
in a treadle - a typical Leach bastardisation of a superb and simple =
solution),
just learn to use it correctly.

Happy potting Marek http://www.moley.uk.com

John K Dellow on sun 30 jan 00

Mark ,
I am surprised you don't use a " Scotch Friction Wheel " .
Gives the best of both worlds i.e. speed and lots of toque at
slow speeds . There must still be some around in England. One of
mine is about 150 years old :) .

Mark & Pauline Donaldson-Drzazga wrote:
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> ------------------
> Dear Clayarters,
>
> one thing I forgot to mention about the fly wheel. Mine was the same weight (1
> lbs) but all the weight was at the rim. I first cast concrete (lasted me 20
> years of constant use) and bolted the ring to the wooden flywheel, I have now
> used solid steel rounds, six in all, also bolted to the same wooden flywheel.
> I must point out that it can outthrow any standard electric wheel for weight a
> efficiency. You use a different technique throwing on a momentum kickwheel. As
> said in my previous post, speed is not necessary, and when you are throwing, t
> wheel slows naturally and you adapt to the rythm of the wheel. You end up
> throwing much more efficiently, without fiddling about. The standard electric
> wheel is used far too often just for speed, as it has very little torque. I ha
> just got delivery of an electric wheel that was made specially to my
> specifications, extremely low bottom speed, with not a great top speed, but wi
> plenty of torque. I have yet to give it a full trial, but I had no trouble wit
> slowing wheelhead speed with 30lbs. I'll try my normal 50 - 60 lbs over the
> weekend, throwing chimney pot barrels and mouldings, all done in sections ands
> then joined together when stiff, whole pot should weigh about 250 lbs.
> Don't give up using a momentum kickwheel (certainly don't fart it up by puttin
> in a treadle - a typical Leach bastardisation of a superb and simple solution)
> just learn to use it correctly.
>
> Happy potting Marek http://www.moley.uk.com

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John K Dellow on sun 30 jan 00



Mark,
have you heard of or seen the Cornish terra-cotta method of
easing up large lumps with the left hand on the outside & the
right inside . Then switching to the right side for knuckling up
?

John Dellow "the flower pot man"
Home Page http://www.welcome.to/jkdellow
http://digitalfire.com/education/people/dellow/

Mark & Pauline Donaldson-Drzazga on mon 31 jan 00


----- Original Message -----
From: John K Dellow
To:
Sent: 30 January 2000 21:20
Subject: Re: kick wheel - sore legs


> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>
>
> Mark,
> have you heard of or seen the Cornish terra-cotta method of
> easing up large lumps with the left hand on the outside & the
> right inside . Then switching to the right side for knuckling up
> ?
>
> John Dellow "the flower pot man"
> Home Page http://www.welcome.to/jkdellow
> http://digitalfire.com/education/people/dellow/
>

Dear John,

yes I have and use it regulary on some pieces. Also regarding Scotch
Friction Method, as I said in a previous post that I'm not a great believer
in mucking up something that works extremely efficiently. Another point
being that introducing an extra bit of kit into the momentum set up would
create a certain amount of confusion for me. If I want to use an electric
wheel I will do so and a momentum wheel when I want to use that way of
throwing.
I am not chucking out your ideas into the delete din, it is just not for me
and the way I work.

Happy potting Marek http:/www.moley.uk.com