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shaner's orange and shaner's green

updated wed 16 feb 00

 

Earl Brunner on sat 12 feb 00

I have Shaner's Red from the early 70's that I used, as did
many other
potters at the time. I recently read about two additional
glazes called
Shaner's Orange and Shaner's Green. Are these formulas that
have
been widely used? I was out of touch with clay for most of
the
80's and the first part of the 90's. If someone has them I
would like
to try them.

--
Earl Brunner
http://coyote.accessnv.com/bruec
mailto:bruec@anv.net

June Perry on sat 12 feb 00

Dear Earl:

I used Shaner's gold in the 70's and 80's. It's a rich, buttery orange with
deeper orange flecks in good reduction. It needs reduction to develop the
good orange color, otherwise it winds up a flat light yellow that is pretty
insipid. It will overfire at full cone ten and is best at cone 9 or ten
starting. It can pinhole, so make sure you fire your bisque high and fire
slowly.

13 SHANER GOLD 9 - 10 REDUCTION


22108 CUSTER FELDSPAR
160 TALC
100 KAOLIN
852 WHITING
120 BONE ASH
150 RED IRON OXIDE
130 RUTILE

4520 TOTAL

SHANER GREEN 9-11 REDUCTION GREEN (CAN BE PALE-DARK GR.OR PINK)
MATT (CAN BE DRY MATT TO GLOSSY) CLAY CALCIUM MATT
9.1 BONE ASH
4.5TALC
18.8WHITING
46.5 CUSTER FELDSPAR
22.1 KAOLIN

100 TOTAL

ADD: COPPER CARBONATE 2.9%

*CAN ALSO GO LAVENDER

Enjoy!
June

Dale A. Neese on sun 13 feb 00

Shaner Red/Gold ^10

EPK 24
CUSTER SPAR 49
WHITING 20
TALC 4
RED IRON OX. 2.4
RUTILE 2.4
BONE ASH 3.0
BENTONITE 2.0

Dale Tex

Andrew Buck on sun 13 feb 00

Earl, In handouts from one of the schools I went to I have the two glazes
listed and from a Ceramics Monthly Questions section I have five. I do
not know which year and month the Ceramics Monthly article is in or I
would just refur you to it, but, wouldn't you know, that is one I didn't
write down the date when I copied the recipes for my glaze file. Anyway
here you are:

Shaner's Orange - cone 10 reduction
5270gr. Potash Feldspar
400gr. Talc
2500gr. EPK (Kaolin)
300gr. Bone Ash
2130gr. Whiting
400gr. Red Iron Oxide
440gr. Rutile

Shaner's Brown - cone 10 reduction
4535gr. Potash Feldspar
2151gr. Kaolin
2091gr. Whiting
707gr. Red Iron Oxide
344gr. Talc
172gr. Bone Ash

The rest are in percentages

Shaner's Red Glaze Variation - cone 9-11 reduction
8.9 Bone Ash
8.9 Talc
16.3 Whiting
41.5 Custer Feldspar (potash)
24.4 EPK (kaolin)
100 percent
add:
3.6 Red Iron Oxide
1.7 Rutile

Cantrell's Shaner Red Glaze - cone 9 reduction
8.45 Bone Ash
15.20 Talc
12.67 Whiting
43.16 Custer Feldspar
20.52 Kentucky Ball Clay (OM 4)
100 percent
add:
3.58 Red Iron Oxide
1.69 Rutile

Altered Shaner Red Glaze - cone 10 reduction
3.68 Bone Ash
3.93 Talc
19.66 Whiting
48.16 Custer Feldspar
1.97 Bentonite
22.60 6 Tile Clay
100 percent
Add:
5.32 Red Iron Oxide

Shaner Red Glaze
9.48 Bone Ash
3.45 Talc
17.24 Whiting
43.97 Custer Feldspar
25.86 EPK (kaolin)
100 percent
add:
3.45 Red Iron Oxide
1.29 Rutile (milled)

Shaner Green Glaze - cone 9-11 reduction
9.1 Bone Ash
3.5 Talc
18.8 Whiting
46.5 Custer Feldspar
22.1 Kaolin
100 percent
add:
2.9 Copper Carbonate

I didn't check percentages on the first two glazes to see if they are the
same as the others and I did not check to see if all the glazes added up
to 100 percent. If they are wrong, it is probably because I made a
mistake as I copied them. Enjoy. Let us know how they turn out and which
ones you like the best.

Andy Buck
Raincreek Pottery
Port Orchard, Washington

On Sat, 12 Feb 2000, Earl Brunner wrote:

> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> I have Shaner's Red from the early 70's that I used, as did
> many other
> potters at the time. I recently read about two additional
> glazes called
> Shaner's Orange and Shaner's Green. Are these formulas that
> have
> been widely used? I was out of touch with clay for most of
> the
> 80's and the first part of the 90's. If someone has them I
> would like
> to try them.
>
> --
> Earl Brunner
> http://coyote.accessnv.com/bruec
> mailto:bruec@anv.net
>

R. D. Jones on mon 14 feb 00

Mr. Brunner,

You mentioned that you had used Shaner's Red. If that recipe is in the
public domain, I and perhaps others would like to try it.

Robert Jones

Wade Blocker on tue 15 feb 00



----------
> From: R. D. Jones
> To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
> Subject: Re: Shaner's Orange and Shaner's Green
> Date: Monday, February 14, 2000 12:31 PM
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Mr. Brunner,
>
> You mentioned that you had used Shaner's Red. If that recipe is in the
> public domain, I and perhaps others would like to try it.
>
> Robert Jones


Robert, here is the recipe for Shaner Red, Cone 10

EPK 24.3
Custer 51.1
Whiting 20.7
Talc 3.9
Red Fe oxide 4.0
Rutile 1.0
Bone Ash 0.5
Bentonite 2.0
Mia in ABQ

Earl Brunner on tue 15 feb 00

Many of the reply's that have already been posted are very similar to my
recipe for Shaner's Red:
P Spar 52.7
EPK 25
Whiting 21.3
Bone Ash 4.0
Talc 4.0
Red Fe 4.1

"Dale A. Neese" wrote:

> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Shaner Red/Gold ^10
>
> EPK 24
> CUSTER SPAR 49
> WHITING 20
> TALC 4
> RED IRON OX. 2.4
> RUTILE 2.4
> BONE ASH 3.0
> BENTONITE 2.0
>
> Dale Tex

--
Earl Brunner
http://coyote.accessnv.com/bruec
mailto:bruec@anv.net