CNW on thu 2 mar 00
Last year a friend brought his portfolio to NCECA. He had some enlargements
from slides that had been done at Kinko's. I think he said they scanned and
enlarged them on a color copier at a price of less than $4. None of the
Kinko's around me know anything about the process and neither do any other
printers.
I have seen things that fit on your scanner to hold slides but now I can't
remember where I saw them. I would love to have a few pictures made
occasionally. But the deal with getting a negatives made and then prints is
waaay expensive. I also wonder about using one of those set-up you can get
to fit on your lens to make copies of slides. Does anyone have any
experience with them and could one of those be used to make copies using
regular print film?
Celia in NC
cwike@conninc.com
Bruce Girrell on fri 3 mar 00
Celia in NC wrote:
>Last year a friend brought his portfolio to NCECA. He had some
enlargements
>from slides that had been done at Kinko's. I think he said they scanned and
>enlarged them on a color copier at a price of less than $4. None of the
>Kinko's around me know anything about the process and neither do any other
>printers.
Perhaps different Kinko's locations have different equipment. I have never
seen this as one of their services.
>I have seen things that fit on your scanner to hold slides but now I can't
>remember where I saw them.
They're called "transparency adapters." I have never seen a transparency
adapter that produces an output of sufficient quality to include in a
portfolio or to send in for jurying. There may be some new equipment out
there that will make a liar out of me, but you really need a dedicated
transparency scanner. Good slide scanners are pretty expensive (>US$1000).
You probably don't want to buy one.
>I would love to have a few pictures made
>occasionally. But the deal with getting a negatives made and then prints is
>waaay expensive.
That is called an "internegative" process and, prior to digital techniques,
produced the best quality prints from a transparency. The results, though,
are still inferior to digital and the price is the same or even higher than
digital.
>I also wonder about using one of those set-up you can get
>to fit on your lens to make copies of slides. Does anyone have any
>experience with them and could one of those be used to make copies using
>regular print film?
The contrast and color balance of normal print film is not suitable for this
purpose, though it would work for certain applications where quality is not
the primary objective. Also, the lens used really needs to be designed for
macro work to do a good job at copying slides.
If quality is an issue at all, I suggest that you get the slides scanned by
a service bureau. The cost should be about US$5.00 per slide. Once you have
the scan you can make any adjustments that are needed - color shift, dust
speck removal, cropping, etc. You can then have the scan made back into a
negative or printed directly. An 8x10 would probably cost about US$15.00.
You would need the negative only if you plan on printing multiple copies.
If all you're interested in is a reference photo, not something that you
would be showing to someone else, then the transparency adapter for a
flat-bed scanner or the on-the-lens slide copier would be fine.
Bruce "just can't resist a photography question" Girrell
Frank Gaydos on fri 3 mar 00
Celia,
I also copied slides to color Xerox paper via Staples for $1.00 per slide.
Kinkos is very expensive.
Or you could send me or another person the slides, I could scan them and
post to my web site where you could visit and right click on your image and
save to your computer and then print them out!
Frank Gaydos
510 Gerritt St.
Philadelphia, Pa.
19147-5821 USA
http://home.earthlink.net/~fgaydos/
Subject: Slide to print?
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> I have seen things that fit on your scanner to hold slides but now I can't
> remember where I saw them. I would love to have a few pictures made
> occasionally. But the deal with getting a negatives made and then prints
is
> waaay expensive. I also wonder about using one of those set-up you can get
> to fit on your lens to make copies of slides. Does anyone have any
> experience with them and could one of those be used to make copies using
> regular print film?
>
>
> Celia in NC
> cwike@conninc.com
>
Joseph Carames on fri 3 mar 00
if you want to find out about what is possible photographically these are
the people to ask.
getting a print from a slide is not all that hard. these people used to
have a vending machine which would pop out color prints from slides for
$1.00 I don't think they do that now the quality was not all that high
and it was used to check composition and focus the color balance was off.
but it is possible and it doesn't have to be $$$. these people are not
the cheapest not by far but if it can be done with a photograph they can
do it.
and probably on a sunday morning.
i did not scout the website - but the phone number is there on the
homepage i sometimes do better with people explaining whatg i want
anyway good luck.
http://www.duggal.com/
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Last year a friend brought his portfolio to NCECA. He had some
enlargements
from slides that had been done at Kinko's. I think he said they scanned
and
enlarged them on a color copier at a price of less than $4. None of the
Kinko's around me know anything about the process and neither do any
other
printers.
I have seen things that fit on your scanner to hold slides but now I
can't
remember where I saw them. I would love to have a few pictures made
occasionally. But the deal with getting a negatives made and then prints
is
waaay expensive. I also wonder about using one of those set-up you can
get
to fit on your lens to make copies of slides. Does anyone have any
experience with them and could one of those be used to make copies using
regular print film?
Celia in NC
cwike@conninc.com
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vince pitelka on fri 3 mar 00
> I have seen things that fit on your scanner to hold slides but now I can't
> remember where I saw them. I would love to have a few pictures made
> occasionally. But the deal with getting a negatives made and then prints
is
> waaay expensive. I also wonder about using one of those set-up you can get
> to fit on your lens to make copies of slides. Does anyone have any
> experience with them and could one of those be used to make copies using
> regular print film?
Celia -
You've got crappy copy shops in your area. Any really good copy shop should
have a machine which makes color copies from color slides.
I have never been impressed with the quality of images you get making images
from slides on a standard flatbed scanner. No matter how high you can set
the resolution for that little corner of the bed, it is still inferior to
any decent slide scanner. The prices of slide scanners are dropping fast.
Years ago I purchased one of those units which fits on your lense to make
copies from slides. The results were crappy, and that was with a really
good camera. If you want good results, have the slides scanned in a good
quality slide-film scanner, or take 'em to a photo shop and pay the price to
have images printed from slides.
Good luck -
- Vince
Vince Pitelka
Home - vpitelka@dekalb.net
615/597-5376
Work - wpitelka@tntech.edu
615/597-6801 ext. 111, fax 615/597-6803
Appalachian Center for Crafts
Tennessee Technological University
1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
Liz Gowen on fri 3 mar 00
I bought a used attachment for a single lens reflex camera to make prints of
slides. If the slides are good it works well but it was not cheap, and you
still have to develop and print the new roll. My need was for a very large
job ( and I like toys) so I felt it was worth the expense. If it is only for
occasional use having a negative made and then a print would be much
cheaper.
My scanner has a slide attachment (Haven't used it yet) but don't see
why you couldn't scan it into the computer and then color print it on
photographic paper. Again if you have access to both a good color printer
and slide scanner. Also don't think the quality is quite as good, you loose
something with each transition.
Check with a good photography store there is one I go to that will scan
regular photo's and enlarge or copy, on a computer, while you wait don't
know if they do slides to print the same way, yet.
Good Luck
Liz Gowen
-----Original Message-----
From: CNW
To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Date: Thursday, March 02, 2000 1:50 PM
Subject: Slide to print?
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Last year a friend brought his portfolio to NCECA. He had some
enlargements
>from slides that had been done at Kinko's. I think he said they scanned and
>enlarged them on a color copier at a price of less than $4. None of the
>Kinko's around me know anything about the process and neither do any other
>printers.
>I have seen things that fit on your scanner to hold slides but now I can't
>remember where I saw them. I would love to have a few pictures made
>occasionally. But the deal with getting a negatives made and then prints is
>waaay expensive. I also wonder about using one of those set-up you can get
>to fit on your lens to make copies of slides. Does anyone have any
>experience with them and could one of those be used to make copies using
>regular print film?
>
>
>Celia in NC
>cwike@conninc.com
>
Louis H.. Katz on fri 3 mar 00
We have a Nikon Coolscan 2000 on campus costs about $1700. Great scans.
Louis
vince pitelka wrote:
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> > I have seen things that fit on your scanner to hold slides but now I can't
> > remember where I saw them. I would love to have a few pictures made
> > occasionally. But the deal with getting a negatives made and then prints
> is
> > waaay expensive. I also wonder about using one of those set-up you can get
> > to fit on your lens to make copies of slides. Does anyone have any
> > experience with them and could one of those be used to make copies using
> > regular print film?
>
> Celia -
> You've got crappy copy shops in your area. Any really good copy shop should
> have a machine which makes color copies from color slides.
>
> I have never been impressed with the quality of images you get making images
> from slides on a standard flatbed scanner. No matter how high you can set
> the resolution for that little corner of the bed, it is still inferior to
> any decent slide scanner. The prices of slide scanners are dropping fast.
>
> Years ago I purchased one of those units which fits on your lense to make
> copies from slides. The results were crappy, and that was with a really
> good camera. If you want good results, have the slides scanned in a good
> quality slide-film scanner, or take 'em to a photo shop and pay the price to
> have images printed from slides.
> Good luck -
> - Vince
>
> Vince Pitelka
> Home - vpitelka@dekalb.net
> 615/597-5376
> Work - wpitelka@tntech.edu
> 615/597-6801 ext. 111, fax 615/597-6803
> Appalachian Center for Crafts
> Tennessee Technological University
> 1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
Anji Henderson on sat 4 mar 00
I have seen the scanner attachment that converts
slides in to pictures.. Most scanners that have that
device come with it.. There are some scanners that can
use the device but do not come with it nor can you
nessacarly get the machine from the same company.. Un
fourtuanately for me this is the case with my
scanner.. I know a guy that has a place.. HAhahahaha
Check with Tom Crego... Summit Computer Products
46 Lee Blvd
Malvern, PA 19355
610-408-9042
Http://www.SummitCP.Com
SummitCp@Worldlynx.Net
They mail order, if they don't have it he will search
high and low to find it, and they follow the Market
Pro Shows.. I think Market Pro goes to NC....
--- CNW wrote:
> ----------------------------Original
> message----------------------------
> Last year a friend brought his portfolio to NCECA.
> He had some enlargements
> from slides that had been done at Kinko's. I think
> he said they scanned and
> enlarged them on a color copier at a price of less
> than $4. None of the
> Kinko's around me know anything about the process
> and neither do any other
> printers.
> I have seen things that fit on your scanner to hold
> slides but now I can't
> remember where I saw them. I would love to have a
> few pictures made
> occasionally. But the deal with getting a negatives
> made and then prints is
> waaay expensive. I also wonder about using one of
> those set-up you can get
> to fit on your lens to make copies of slides. Does
> anyone have any
> experience with them and could one of those be used
> to make copies using
> regular print film?
>
>
> Celia in NC
> cwike@conninc.com
>
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Jeff Campana on sat 4 mar 00
When i get my slides developed, I have the place that does them also give
them to me on a cd in .jpg format. It costs about a dollar per, looks
excellent, and can simply be printed on kodak photo quality paper, and in
full 8.5 by 11 beautiful images. This paper is about 50 cents a sheet
maybe? also, these images are excellent for web pages, something I've been
trying not to procrastinate on for the last year or so....
This is a reletively new thing, and may not be availible in some areas, but
it is definitely a good thing. It is very 21st century to have your
portfolio backed up on a disc.
Jeff
Joseph Carames wrote:
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> if you want to find out about what is possible photographically these are
> the people to ask.
>
> getting a print from a slide is not all that hard. these people used to
> have a vending machine which would pop out color prints from slides for
> $1.00 I don't think they do that now the quality was not all that high
> and it was used to check composition and focus the color balance was off.
> but it is possible and it doesn't have to be $$$. these people are not
> the cheapest not by far but if it can be done with a photograph they can
> do it.
> and probably on a sunday morning.
> i did not scout the website - but the phone number is there on the
> homepage i sometimes do better with people explaining whatg i want
> anyway good luck.
> http://www.duggal.com/
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Last year a friend brought his portfolio to NCECA. He had some
> enlargements
> from slides that had been done at Kinko's. I think he said they scanned
> and
> enlarged them on a color copier at a price of less than $4. None of the
> Kinko's around me know anything about the process and neither do any
> other
> printers.
> I have seen things that fit on your scanner to hold slides but now I
> can't
> remember where I saw them. I would love to have a few pictures made
> occasionally. But the deal with getting a negatives made and then prints
> is
> waaay expensive. I also wonder about using one of those set-up you can
> get
> to fit on your lens to make copies of slides. Does anyone have any
> experience with them and could one of those be used to make copies using
> regular print film?
>
> Celia in NC
> cwike@conninc.com
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Susan Goldstein on sat 4 mar 00
Our local Kinkos here in Lexington provides that service. I have had 8 by 10
photos made for about 2 dollars in the past. The person using the machine
needs to be capable of selecting color and willing to try over and over until
you are satisfied (without charge). The photo's are not of good quality for
copying or jurying but have been adequate to give to customers and include in
portfolio's.
Susan
phil davenport on sun 5 mar 00
Dear Dan the the Clayart network:
There are several ways to have a print made from a slide!!
1. Most camera stores will be able to send the slide to a lab and a print can
be made directly from the slide. The cost should NOT be much more than a
regular print.
2. Using a scanner and most any imaging software you could scan the slide and
make any necessary adjustment, to the image, and then print the image on photo
quality paper. The scanner will have to be able to scan negatives and slides.
3. If you use a "slide copier" attachment, that will fit your specific camera
ANY type of film can be used, but the type of light source will effect the final
color of the image. In any case, if you used negative film the important thing
to do is to run a test for the proper type of light source and exposure and be
sure to keep records so when the film is processed and printed you can determine
the correct settings. You should also tell the lab, that is process the film,
what you are doing so they can make any necessary corrections when they print
the negatives.
Good Luck!!
Phil Davenport
Texas
CNW wrote:
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Last year a friend brought his portfolio to NCECA. He had some enlargements
> from slides that had been done at Kinko's. I think he said they scanned and
> enlarged them on a color copier at a price of less than $4. None of the
> Kinko's around me know anything about the process and neither do any other
> printers.
> I have seen things that fit on your scanner to hold slides but now I can't
> remember where I saw them. I would love to have a few pictures made
> occasionally. But the deal with getting a negatives made and then prints is
> waaay expensive. I also wonder about using one of those set-up you can get
> to fit on your lens to make copies of slides. Does anyone have any
> experience with them and could one of those be used to make copies using
> regular print film?
>
> Celia in NC
> cwike@conninc.com
iandol on sun 5 mar 00
------------------
Re: Slide to print?
I have an ACER Prisa 620ST which has a slide adaptor. The on board programme
allows me to scan in 35mm negatives and slides. The big drawback is that you
always get the pixels showing when you go to the max resolution of your =
printer
of about 1200=2A600. Enlarges to about A5 to give reasonable clarity. You =
may need
to adjust the Gamma curve or lighten the tone.
Ivor Lewis
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