Jeri Palmer on tue 28 mar 00
Howdy folks. I am in the market for a pugmill. I am impressed with the
small shimpo and I have looked at the smallest Bluebird. I am curious about
other potters experiences with these or any other models. I work in ^10
porcelain and my wrists are not happy. I know a pugmill would change my
life. Any comments would be appreciated. TIA Jeri in Hastings, MN
Marshall Talbott on wed 29 mar 00
We have a Venco 4" deairing pugmill that is absolutely terrific.. we can get
a constant vacuum of about 99kPa... It really saves the wrists..
We also make our own claybodies.. Our clay is vastly superiour to any of
that premixed stuff that we tried in the days of old....
Marshall
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>From: Jeri Palmer
>Reply-To: Ceramic Arts Discussion List
>To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
>Subject: Pugmill advice?
>Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 13:18:37 EST
>
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Howdy folks. I am in the market for a pugmill. I am impressed with the
>small shimpo and I have looked at the smallest Bluebird. I am curious
>about
>other potters experiences with these or any other models. I work in ^10
>porcelain and my wrists are not happy. I know a pugmill would change my
>life. Any comments would be appreciated. TIA Jeri in Hastings, MN
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David Woodin on wed 29 mar 00
I would look at the Peter Pugger which has a much larger hopper and opening
than the Shimpo or Bluebird and the clay can be mixed for as long as needed
before pugging.
David
Tom Eastburn on wed 29 mar 00
I too, had to make this decision and eventually settled for the Peter Pugger
(de-airing). Nothing is cheap these days, but I finally figured out a way
to rationalize the decision! I love this machine. I have a small studio
space and it fit MY needs perfectly. The only situation which is a little
sensitive is how many people will want to borrow it! Sharing is what us
potters do, but shhhhh don't let to many people know unless you all use the
same clay! My wrists are happy. Good luck on whatever brand you chose.
They are pricey, but in the long run you'll be happy you sacrificed
food/shelter/dating and clothing for this tool. A most wonderful invention.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeri Palmer
To:
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2000 11:18 AM
Subject: Pugmill advice?
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Howdy folks. I am in the market for a pugmill. I am impressed with the
> small shimpo and I have looked at the smallest Bluebird. I am curious
about
> other potters experiences with these or any other models. I work in ^10
> porcelain and my wrists are not happy. I know a pugmill would change my
> life. Any comments would be appreciated. TIA Jeri in Hastings, MN
Jonathan Kaplan on wed 29 mar 00
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Howdy folks. I am in the market for a pugmill. I am impressed with the
>small shimpo and I have looked at the smallest Bluebird. I am curious about
>other potters experiences with these or any other models. I work in ^10
>porcelain and my wrists are not happy. I know a pugmill would change my
>life. Any comments would be appreciated. TIA Jeri in Hastings, MN
This subject surfaced a few months ago, so I'll be brief and try not to
sound repetitous.
We have used Bluebird pugmills, (we have 2) in our shop since the early
1070's. In fact, our 750SV is still turning our fine de-aired clay. I just
replaced the inline gear reducer and upgraded the power train. We also have
a Powerstar3000. These are fine machine with off the shelf parts and made
here in the USA. Bluebird is an fine company with wonderful people. Enough
said. Buy a Bluebird. Call Trina at Bluebird. She will fill in the rest.
Jonathan
Jonathan Kaplan
Ceramic Design Group LTd/Production Services
PO Box 775112
Steamboat Springs, CO 80477
(970) 879-9139 voice and fax
http://www.sni.net/ceramicdesign
UPS: 1280 13th St. Unit13
Steamboat Springs, CO 80487
Reg Wearley on thu 30 mar 00
Hi Jeri-
We have a de-airing Peter Pugger that really does
the job. I put about 30 pounds of clay in (both
new and recycled), mix it for a few minutes and
leave it set. I do this after each throwing
session so the pugger is already charged and ready
to go for the next session. Mix again for 3 0r 4
minutes just before pugging and away we go. We
throw 3/4 pound and 1 pound pugs right out of the
machinge.
-Reg
--- Marshall Talbott
wrote:
> ----------------------------Original
> message----------------------------
> We have a Venco 4" deairing pugmill that is
> absolutely terrific.. we can get
> a constant vacuum of about 99kPa... It really saves
> the wrists..
>
> We also make our own claybodies.. Our clay is
> vastly superiour to any of
> that premixed stuff that we tried in the days of
> old....
>
> Marshall
> http://www.potteryinfo.com
>
> >From: Jeri Palmer
> >Reply-To: Ceramic Arts Discussion List
>
> >To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
> >Subject: Pugmill advice?
> >Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 13:18:37 EST
> >
> >----------------------------Original
> message----------------------------
> >Howdy folks. I am in the market for a pugmill. I
> am impressed with the
> >small shimpo and I have looked at the smallest
> Bluebird. I am curious
> >about
> >other potters experiences with these or any other
> models. I work in ^10
> >porcelain and my wrists are not happy. I know a
> pugmill would change my
> >life. Any comments would be appreciated. TIA
> Jeri in Hastings, MN
>
>
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John Weber on thu 30 mar 00
I second the advice on the Peter Pugger, AND a big plus, I just cleaned it
out for the first time, it took a while but with just a few nuts removed you
can take it completely apart. Check that aspect out before you buy. Also, it
mixes 30 or so lbs so you can just put your recycled clay in the hopper and
mix until its ready.
tgschs10 on thu 30 mar 00
Tom,
Couldn't agree more with your comments. I believe that my Peter Pugger was
the best ceramic equipment buy I ever made. I would strongly recommend you
look at these.
Tom Sawyer
Orlando, FL
tgschs10@msn.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Eastburn"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: Pugmill advice?
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> I too, had to make this decision and eventually settled for the Peter
Pugger
> (de-airing). Nothing is cheap these days, but I finally figured out a
way
> to rationalize the decision! I love this machine. I have a small studio
> space and it fit MY needs perfectly. The only situation which is a
little
> sensitive is how many people will want to borrow it! Sharing is what us
> potters do, but shhhhh don't let to many people know unless you all use
the
> same clay! My wrists are happy. Good luck on whatever brand you chose.
> They are pricey, but in the long run you'll be happy you sacrificed
> food/shelter/dating and clothing for this tool. A most wonderful
invention.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jeri Palmer
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2000 11:18 AM
> Subject: Pugmill advice?
>
>
> > ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> > Howdy folks. I am in the market for a pugmill. I am impressed with the
> > small shimpo and I have looked at the smallest Bluebird. I am curious
> about
> > other potters experiences with these or any other models. I work in ^10
> > porcelain and my wrists are not happy. I know a pugmill would change my
> > life. Any comments would be appreciated. TIA Jeri in Hastings, MN
>
millie carpenter on thu 30 mar 00
Jeri
I have a small bluebird de-airing pugmill, and I L-O-V-E the changes that
it has made in my life. I like to throw with soft clay, so I am able to take a
few minutes at the end of the day and poke holes in a factory pug of new clay
close the bag over night, run the softened clay thru with some of my slaked
reclaim ( I work in stoneware ) I put the pugs into the long thin baggies that
newspapers are delivered in on rainy days. my wrists are happy. my only regret
is that I didn't get one sooner. if you are really doing production, I would
suggest a larger one. after seeing the power extruder demo, I talked with the
bluebird people there and they are going to look into some different ways to
mount the pugmill in a hinge/pulley system so that it can go vertical since it
can accept dies to extrude shapes. I think that the deairing feature is really
important as that means no wedging what so ever. and for me the price was
important so that really did influence my choice also.
Millie in Md. mentally stimulated and physically exhausted from NCECA
Jeri Palmer wrote:
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Howdy folks. I am in the market for a pugmill. I am impressed with the
> small shimpo and I have looked at the smallest Bluebird. I am curious about
> other potters experiences with these or any other models. I work in ^10
> porcelain and my wrists are not happy. I know a pugmill would change my
> life. Any comments would be appreciated. TIA Jeri in Hastings, MN
Tom Eastburn on fri 31 mar 00
Back to the pugmil, I talked to the Peter Pugger people pertaining
particularily (stop it!). Cleaning will be easier the second time as I will
try the method you and they recommended. This is only necessary when
switching clays, otherwise it's perfectly fine and expected to leave the
ole' clay in there waiting it's turn to be something functional or arty or
both, for whatever price one deems necessary! Ha!
----- Original Message -----
From: John Weber
To:
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: Pugmill advice?
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> I second the advice on the Peter Pugger, AND a big plus, I just cleaned it
> out for the first time, it took a while but with just a few nuts removed
you
> can take it completely apart. Check that aspect out before you buy. Also,
it
> mixes 30 or so lbs so you can just put your recycled clay in the hopper
and
> mix until its ready.
Robert Marshall Simpson on fri 31 mar 00
Jeri---I have a Peter Pugger (de-airing) and feel it is the best investment
I've made toward working with clay. The size is perfect for a one person
operation.
Kayte-in Ok
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeri Palmer"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2000 12:18 PM
Subject: Pugmill advice?
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Howdy folks. I am in the market for a pugmill. I am impressed with the
> small shimpo and I have looked at the smallest Bluebird. I am curious
about
> other potters experiences with these or any other models. I work in ^10
> porcelain and my wrists are not happy. I know a pugmill would change my
> life. Any comments would be appreciated. TIA Jeri in Hastings, MN
>
Tom Eastburn on wed 19 apr 00
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Eastburn
To:
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: Pugmill advice?
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> I too, had to make this decision and eventually settled for the Peter
Pugger
> (de-airing). Nothing is cheap these days, but I finally figured out a
way
> to rationalize the decision! I love this machine. I have a small studio
> space and it fit MY needs perfectly. The only situation which is a
little
> sensitive is how many people will want to borrow it! Sharing is what us
> potters do, but shhhhh don't let to many people know unless you all use
the
> same clay! My wrists are happy. Good luck on whatever brand you chose.
> They are pricey, but in the long run you'll be happy you sacrificed
> food/shelter/dating and clothing for this tool. A most wonderful
invention.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jeri Palmer
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2000 11:18 AM
> Subject: Pugmill advice?
>
>
> > ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> > Howdy folks. I am in the market for a pugmill. I am impressed with the
> > small shimpo and I have looked at the smallest Bluebird. I am curious
> about
> > other potters experiences with these or any other models. I work in ^10
> > porcelain and my wrists are not happy. I know a pugmill would change my
> > life. Any comments would be appreciated. TIA Jeri in Hastings, MN
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