Paul Taylor on wed 29 mar 00
Dear Ray or any body.
I have tried tea it did not work.
Does any body know how for certain to get black into the crackle on a high
fired stoneware I would appreciate an answer since it would save a lot of
time experimenting.
I wonder if the cesspool was Just a pool of stagnant ink and smelled.
>From my experiments with chinese glazes I expect that many a researcher made
such mistakes and who would want to spoil the Joke.
I no longer question the stories I hear about inscrutable secrets of the
orient I just smile at the romantic gullibility of the story teller.
Regards
Paul T
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>From: Ray Aldridge
>To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
>Subject: Re: Crazing and crazing
>Date: Tue, Mar 28, 2000, 7:05 pm
>
>
>More conventional crazing is often enhanced by soaking the pot in strong
>tea. The Chinese, so I understand, would enhance the craze lines of their
>pots by submerging them in cesspools for several months. I would prefer
>the modern approach.
Stephen Grimmer on thu 30 mar 00
Hey Paul,
Try India Ink on the crazing. Usually goes right in; in fact, it's a
good way to detect crazing on glaze tests.
steve
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Steve Grimmer
Bowling Green State University
Bowling Green, OH
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>From: Paul Taylor
>To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
>Subject: Re: Crazing Cesspools?
>Date: Wed, Mar 29, 2000, 4:57 PM
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Dear Ray or any body.
>
> I have tried tea it did not work.
>
> Does any body know how for certain to get black into the crackle on a high
> fired stoneware I would appreciate an answer since it would save a lot of
> time experimenting.
>
> I wonder if the cesspool was Just a pool of stagnant ink and smelled.
> From my experiments with chinese glazes I expect that many a researcher made
> such mistakes and who would want to spoil the Joke.
>
> I no longer question the stories I hear about inscrutable secrets of the
> orient I just smile at the romantic gullibility of the story teller.
>
> Regards
> Paul T
>
>
> ----------
>>From: Ray Aldridge
>>To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
>>Subject: Re: Crazing and crazing
>>Date: Tue, Mar 28, 2000, 7:05 pm
>>
>
>>
>>More conventional crazing is often enhanced by soaking the pot in strong
>>tea. The Chinese, so I understand, would enhance the craze lines of their
>>pots by submerging them in cesspools for several months. I would prefer
>>the modern approach.
hasebe on thu 30 mar 00
Hi
Try sumi duluted for black. You can buy liquid type sumi (bokujyuu) at art
store.
Hodaka Hasebe
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hasebeh@rochester.rr.com (Hodaka Hasebe)
Pittsford, NY
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>From: Paul Taylor
>To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
>Subject: Re: Crazing Cesspools?
>Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 17:57:34 EST
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Dear Ray or any body.
>
> I have tried tea it did not work.
>
> Does any body know how for certain to get black into the crackle on a high
> fired stoneware I would appreciate an answer since it would save a lot of
> time experimenting.
>
> I wonder if the cesspool was Just a pool of stagnant ink and smelled.
> From my experiments with chinese glazes I expect that many a researcher made
> such mistakes and who would want to spoil the Joke.
>
> I no longer question the stories I hear about inscrutable secrets of the
> orient I just smile at the romantic gullibility of the story teller.
>
> Regards
> Paul T
>
>
> ----------
>>From: Ray Aldridge
>>To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
>>Subject: Re: Crazing and crazing
>>Date: Tue, Mar 28, 2000, 7:05 pm
>>
>
>>
>>More conventional crazing is often enhanced by soaking the pot in strong
>>tea. The Chinese, so I understand, would enhance the craze lines of their
>>pots by submerging them in cesspools for several months. I would prefer
>>the modern approach.
Charles G Hughes on thu 30 mar 00
I have seen lovely results with tea(basic Tetley sort of stuff) , It must be
made strong and allowed to sit in the pot overnight. I saw it done once with
India ink...non functional ware of course....
-Charles
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Taylor
To:
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: Crazing Cesspools?
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Dear Ray or any body.
>
> I have tried tea it did not work.
>
> Does any body know how for certain to get black into the crackle on a high
> fired stoneware I would appreciate an answer since it would save a lot of
> time experimenting.
>
> I wonder if the cesspool was Just a pool of stagnant ink and smelled.
> From my experiments with chinese glazes I expect that many a researcher
made
> such mistakes and who would want to spoil the Joke.
>
> I no longer question the stories I hear about inscrutable secrets of
the
> orient I just smile at the romantic gullibility of the story teller.
>
> Regards
> Paul T
>
>
> ----------
> >From: Ray Aldridge
> >To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
> >Subject: Re: Crazing and crazing
> >Date: Tue, Mar 28, 2000, 7:05 pm
> >
>
> >
> >More conventional crazing is often enhanced by soaking the pot in strong
> >tea. The Chinese, so I understand, would enhance the craze lines of
their
> >pots by submerging them in cesspools for several months. I would prefer
> >the modern approach.
Cindy Strnad on thu 30 mar 00
Paul,
I'm just jumping in here (have been out of town for a while), so please
forgive me if this has been suggested. I've heard of people using India ink
for the purpose of emphasizing the cracks. I think this might work better
than tea. Strong tea or coffee works in ware that isn't fully vitrified, but
I doubt its efficacy in high fire stoneware.
Cindy Strnad
earthenv@gwtc.net
Earthen Vessels Pottery
RR 1, Box 51
Custer, SD 57730
Alex Wilson on fri 31 mar 00
Try warming the pot and then sponging/painting India ink or Sepia onto the
surface, though the tea should have worked.
BFN
Alex Wilson
The Scottish Potter
106 J. Ave.,
Nevada,
IA. 50201-1834
USA
Janet Kaiser on sun 2 apr 00
If Indian ink did not work, maybe it was the sort which has high surface
tension... The sort that stays on the surface in blobs? Maybe adding vinegar
would help break up the tension and allow more to penetrate?
I think the idea of the cesspool has something to do with the high acidity?
Uric acid? So that the colour would etch into the body through the crazing?
Just a thought? Could this maybe help with tea, coffee, etc?
I am asking... Please do not use this until someone who knows gives the
go-ahead. I have some doubts on the acid getting into the body and weakening
it?
Although a couple of people have suggested it is a myth, there may be reason
in it?
Another possibility: how about carbon? Being the finest grain surely rubbing
carbon onto the crazed or crackled surface would work?
Janet Kaiser
The Chapel of Art, Criccieth LL52 0EA, GB-Wales
Home of The International Potters Path
TEL: (01766) 523570
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