Alisa and Claus Clausen on mon 3 apr 00
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Dear Clayart,
Last year when I received my Brent CXC, there was no manual. Thus clayart
pulled me along
how to reset my pedal speed. Thank you.
I remember the shimpo splash pan discussion a while back, and well, now they
have a new
better one. I am sure my splash pan is fine, but why am fighting with it so
much??
There are two pieces to the pan. One on the back that is larger, and the =
front
one that is
(suspense) smaller. The smaller one has two indentations on each side of =
the
inside bottom pan
where the two prongs on the outside bottom of the larger pan fit or snap in.
There are two tabs that
stick out on the bottom outside of the smaller pan. It seems that one could
press down on these
tabs to release the smaller pan part from the larger part.
Here comes the fun. I cannot. I can press with one hand on each side or =
press
with two hands on one,
but it is a struggle. My husband's attention caught tonight by all my =
moaning
and groaning in the studio,
stirred him to come out out to see what that could be about. I was pressing=
the
tabs, and pulling and yanking and my
wheel was sliding around before I could losen the pan. My husband says this
should be done with one
hand. The operative word should. He could. He has large, strong hands and
fingers. I have used a
screwdriver to separate the pans, but should not be necessary.
It finally dawned on me suddenly, to press down on the tab, sliding the =
smaller
part out,
and at the same time,
lift up on the lip of the larger pan. It works much better. This took me
almost a year
to think about? This is a huge improvement over my previous struggles,but =
it is
still not easy.
Perhaps it needs to be as tight as it is?
But is there is something I am overlooking to make this pan come off easier?
Best regards,
Alisa in Denmark
Diane G. Echlin on tue 4 apr 00
> But is there is something I am overlooking to make this pan come off easier?
Yes--a generous spraying of WD 40 under the flange and where the indentations fi
into the holes. works wonders!
Di
Erin Hayes on tue 4 apr 00
Hi Alisa!
My students fight with the Brent pans too. Try this:
Stand up from your potting stool and put your knee just under the rim of the
small part of the splash pan.
Push down on each thumb tab.
At the same time you're pushing down on the tabs, lift up a little on the
splash pan with your knee.
That usually releases the splash pans for us. I hope it helps.
Erin.
Carol Seidman on tue 4 apr 00
Alisa: The rear part of the pan should be pulled, wiggeled, tugged and
slid as far forward as it will go, and then some. When the back is in
place, the smaller front part snaps right in. I had the same difficulty
each time I cleaned the wheel.
Good Luck, Carol in New Jersey
Alisa and Claus Clausen wrote:
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> ------------------
> Dear Clayart,
> Last year when I received my Brent CXC, there was no manual. Thus clayart
> pulled me along
> how to reset my pedal speed. Thank you.
>
> I remember the shimpo splash pan discussion a while back, and well, now they
> have a new
> better one. I am sure my splash pan is fine, but why am fighting with it so
> much??
>
> There are two pieces to the pan. One on the back that is larger, and the fron
> one that is
> (suspense) smaller. The smaller one has two indentations on each side of the
> inside bottom pan
> where the two prongs on the outside bottom of the larger pan fit or snap in.
> There are two tabs that
> stick out on the bottom outside of the smaller pan. It seems that one could
> press down on these
> tabs to release the smaller pan part from the larger part.
>
> Here comes the fun. I cannot. I can press with one hand on each side or pres
> with two hands on one,
> but it is a struggle. My husband's attention caught tonight by all my moaning
> and groaning in the studio,
> stirred him to come out out to see what that could be about. I was pressing t
> tabs, and pulling and yanking and my
> wheel was sliding around before I could losen the pan. My husband says this
> should be done with one
> hand. The operative word should. He could. He has large, strong hands and
> fingers. I have used a
> screwdriver to separate the pans, but should not be necessary.
>
> It finally dawned on me suddenly, to press down on the tab, sliding the smalle
> part out,
> and at the same time,
> lift up on the lip of the larger pan. It works much better. This took me
> almost a year
> to think about? This is a huge improvement over my previous struggles,but it
> still not easy.
> Perhaps it needs to be as tight as it is?
>
> But is there is something I am overlooking to make this pan come off easier?
> Best regards,
> Alisa in Denmark
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Don Jones on tue 4 apr 00
Alisa,
Try putting the larger part of the pan facing away from you (as you sit) and
the smaller in front of you. It took me two years to figure this out. A
humbling experience.
Don Jones
http://www.highfiber.com/~claysky
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>From: Alisa and Claus Clausen
>To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
>Subject: Brent Splash pans
>Date: Mon, Apr 3, 2000, 4:03 PM
>
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>------------------
>Dear Clayart,
>Last year when I received my Brent CXC, there was no manual. Thus clayart
>pulled me along
>how to reset my pedal speed. Thank you.
>
>I remember the shimpo splash pan discussion a while back, and well, now they
>have a new
>better one. I am sure my splash pan is fine, but why am fighting with it so
>much??
>
>There are two pieces to the pan. One on the back that is larger, and the front
>one that is
>(suspense) smaller. The smaller one has two indentations on each side of the
>inside bottom pan
>where the two prongs on the outside bottom of the larger pan fit or snap in.
>There are two tabs that
>stick out on the bottom outside of the smaller pan. It seems that one could
>press down on these
>tabs to release the smaller pan part from the larger part.
>
>Here comes the fun. I cannot. I can press with one hand on each side or press
>with two hands on one,
>but it is a struggle. My husband's attention caught tonight by all my moaning
>and groaning in the studio,
>stirred him to come out out to see what that could be about. I was pressing th
>tabs, and pulling and yanking and my
>wheel was sliding around before I could losen the pan. My husband says this
>should be done with one
>hand. The operative word should. He could. He has large, strong hands and
>fingers. I have used a
>screwdriver to separate the pans, but should not be necessary.
>
>It finally dawned on me suddenly, to press down on the tab, sliding the smaller
>part out,
>and at the same time,
>lift up on the lip of the larger pan. It works much better. This took me
>almost a year
>to think about? This is a huge improvement over my previous struggles,but it i
>still not easy.
>Perhaps it needs to be as tight as it is?
>
>But is there is something I am overlooking to make this pan come off easier?
>Best regards,
>Alisa in Denmark
>
Toni Martens on tue 4 apr 00
Alisa,
Your post had me worried, I am challenged in the area of making
things work and all of a sudden I wondered why my Brent splash
pan was giving me no problems (Yeah OK so I tend to panic over
tstupid things) I had to go and check if I could still get those pans
apart or if they had mutated while I wasn't looking! Believe me
things do that to me, I SWEAR it isn't my mind, really it isn't!!!!
I think they must have changed the design since I got mine
though, because there are no pins, just sort of hollow knobs on the
back pan and holes and tabs on the front one and they click apart
with ease, so, sometimes 'advances' in design are not so great an
idea? And WHEN will they design a stove that is easy to
clean?
Hope you get the knack soon
Toni in a delisciously cool and rainy Durban, South Africa
There are two pieces to the pan. One on the back that is
larger, and the front
> one that is
> (suspense) smaller. The smaller one has two indentations on each side of the
> inside bottom pan
> where the two prongs on the outside bottom of the larger pan fit or snap in.
> There are two tabs that
> stick out on the bottom outside of the smaller pan. It seems that one could
> press down on these
> tabs to release the smaller pan part from the larger part.
>
> Here comes the fun. I cannot. I can press with one hand on each side or pres
> with two hands on one,
> but it is a struggle. My husband's attention caught tonight by all my moaning
> and groaning in the studio,
> stirred him to come out out to see what that could be about. I was pressing t
> tabs, and pulling and yanking and my
> wheel was sliding around before I could losen the pan. My husband says this
> should be done with one
> hand. The operative word should. He could. He has large, strong hands and
> fingers. I have used a
> screwdriver to separate the pans, but should not be necessary.
>
> It finally dawned on me suddenly, to press down on the tab, sliding the smalle
> part out,
Shirley Tschannen on wed 5 apr 00
Hi Alisa.....Not to fear your strength or lack of it. I too have a Brent Wheel
I cuss each time I have to remove it for cleaning.. I believe it to be a design
defect...surely they could have done a better job....somehow.!ALSO, it leaks wat
and slip out on to the table and makes a big mess. The tabs are very difficult
depress for removal....anyway....what's a girl to do????Maybe someone has a
solution....they almost always do!!!
Alisa and Claus Clausen wrote:
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> ------------------
> Dear Clayart,
> Last year when I received my Brent CXC, there was no manual. Thus clayart
> pulled me along
> how to reset my pedal speed. Thank you.
>
> I remember the shimpo splash pan discussion a while back, and well, now they
> have a new
> better one. I am sure my splash pan is fine, but why am fighting with it so
> much??
>
> There are two pieces to the pan. One on the back that is larger, and the fron
> one that is
> (suspense) smaller. The smaller one has two indentations on each side of the
> inside bottom pan
> where the two prongs on the outside bottom of the larger pan fit or snap in.
> There are two tabs that
> stick out on the bottom outside of the smaller pan. It seems that one could
> press down on these
> tabs to release the smaller pan part from the larger part.
>
> Here comes the fun. I cannot. I can press with one hand on each side or pres
> with two hands on one,
> but it is a struggle. My husband's attention caught tonight by all my moaning
> and groaning in the studio,
> stirred him to come out out to see what that could be about. I was pressing t
> tabs, and pulling and yanking and my
> wheel was sliding around before I could losen the pan. My husband says this
> should be done with one
> hand. The operative word should. He could. He has large, strong hands and
> fingers. I have used a
> screwdriver to separate the pans, but should not be necessary.
>
> It finally dawned on me suddenly, to press down on the tab, sliding the smalle
> part out,
> and at the same time,
> lift up on the lip of the larger pan. It works much better. This took me
> almost a year
> to think about? This is a huge improvement over my previous struggles,but it
> still not easy.
> Perhaps it needs to be as tight as it is?
>
> But is there is something I am overlooking to make this pan come off easier?
> Best regards,
> Alisa in Denmark
Ann Hunter on wed 5 apr 00
>Dear Alissa,
I have two Brents. The first one had a splash pan that was easy to
remove and replace. The second was quite difficult . One of my
students ( a twelve year old boy), looked at it one day and said " I
think I can make this work if I sand it off a little." He showed me
where it was binding and we worked it over a bit with my grinding
wheel. Now it's fine. ( It's always a good idea to keep some young
people around for this sort of thing!) You have to get down so you
can look closely at where and how the pan fits around the shaft.
You are not the first to have trouble with those pans. At the
university near me (Wichita Falls, Texas), there are a number of
Brents and nobody uses the splash pans, I suspect for this reason.
They have custodians, however, who clean the floors. I do my own
floors, so I always use splash pans.
-Ann Hunter, Texas
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>------------------
>Dear Clayart,
>Last year when I received my Brent CXC, there was no manual. Thus clayart
>pulled me along
>how to reset my pedal speed. Thank you.
>
>I remember the shimpo splash pan discussion a while back, and well, now they
>have a new
>better one. I am sure my splash pan is fine, but why am fighting with it so
>much??
>
>There are two pieces to the pan. One on the back that is larger,
>and the front
>one that is
>(suspense) smaller. The smaller one has two indentations on each side of the
>inside bottom pan
>where the two prongs on the outside bottom of the larger pan fit or snap in.
>There are two tabs that
>stick out on the bottom outside of the smaller pan. It seems that one could
>press down on these
>tabs to release the smaller pan part from the larger part.
>
>Here comes the fun. I cannot. I can press with one hand on each
>side or press
>with two hands on one,
>but it is a struggle. My husband's attention caught tonight by all my moaning
>and groaning in the studio,
>stirred him to come out out to see what that could be about. I was
>pressing the
>tabs, and pulling and yanking and my
>wheel was sliding around before I could losen the pan. My husband says this
>should be done with one
>hand. The operative word should. He could. He has large, strong hands and
>fingers. I have used a
>screwdriver to separate the pans, but should not be necessary.
>
>It finally dawned on me suddenly, to press down on the tab, sliding
>the smaller
>part out,
>and at the same time,
>lift up on the lip of the larger pan. It works much better. This took me
>almost a year
>to think about? This is a huge improvement over my previous
>struggles,but it is
>still not easy.
>Perhaps it needs to be as tight as it is?
>
>But is there is something I am overlooking to make this pan come off easier?
>Best regards,
>Alisa in Denmark
Evan Dresel on thu 6 apr 00
Alisa and Claus Clausen wrote:
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> ------------------
> Dear Clayart,
> Last year when I received my Brent CXC, there was no manual. Thus clayart
> pulled me along
> how to reset my pedal speed. Thank you.
>
> I remember the shimpo splash pan discussion a while back, and well, now they
> have a new
> better one. I am sure my splash pan is fine, but why am fighting with it so
> much??
I think the key is to swear a lot -- preferably in several languages.
Actually I never have much problem with the smaller half, it is the
large one I can't figure out. My technique involves wrapping my leg
around one of the legs on the wheel to try to hold it in place while I
pull and wriggle the pan off.
I think your best bet is to learn to throw dry so you seldom have to
remove the thing.
-- Evan in W. Richland, WA (that's Washington, USA, mel, not Western
Australia) who has been thinking for years about a fireplace inspired by
the irregular hexagons of the basalt columns around here. Just had some
drafting done for work and found out the draftsperson was a potter,
too. He showed me a picture of the fireplace he had done at his
cabin... beautiful black irregular hexagons.
vince pitelka on thu 6 apr 00
I am surprised at all the negative posts about the Brent splash pans. Once
my students get proper instruction in installing and removing them, they
never have any more problems with them. As far as I have seen, they are the
best splash pans of any wheel on the market, because they STAY ON when they
are installed, with no movement. They are very sturdy, and I believe very
well-designed. They leak a little bit?? Is this really a problem?? If
they leak because they overflow, then you are throwing with too much water.
If they leak at the seam where the two pieces meet, I do not know what the
problem is. I have never had one leak at all, except if it is over-filled
with slop. If you really want a guarantee of no leakage, then you might
consider getting a Shimpo or Bailey with a permanently-installed one-piece
splash pan. No leaks, but you have to put up with the damn splash pan in
the way all the time.
In my experience, it does not matter whether you install the large portion
of the Brent splash pan from the front or from the back. Put it wherever it
is easier for you to install it. If it is hard to slide in place, the first
thing to do is to make sure there is no clay debris caught in the flange
under the wheelhead, and then lubricate the underside of the flange with
spray silicone lubricant. You can either install the larger portion from
the back and sit in front of the wheel and pull it back and forth towards
you, with your arms and hands around behind the pan, or you can install it
from the front, pushing it in place with the palms of your hands. Once you
get the big piece installed all the way, slide the small piece in with the
open side pointing slightly downwards, and when it is almost in place, push
down on the center of the outer rim of the smaller piece, and this will
click it in place. When removing the smaller piece, pull up on the center
of the outer rim, while pushing down on either one of the tabs. Do this
gently, and you will not spill any slop, as long as it is not over-full.
This really is not a problem, once you figure out the right way.
I have used all the various kinds of wheel/splash pans, and in my opinion,
the Brent is the very best splash pan design. If you really know of a
superior one, I would love to hear about it.
Best wishes -
- Vince
Vince Pitelka
Home - vpitelka@dekalb.net
615/597-5376
Work - wpitelka@tntech.edu
615/597-6801 ext. 111, fax 615/597-6803
Appalachian Center for Crafts
Tennessee Technological University
1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
http://www.craftcenter.tntech.edu/
Fredrick Paget on sun 9 apr 00
I think the Jepson splash pan beats them all. Since the wheelhead is on a
machined taper a couple of light taps with a 3 pound lead skindiving weight
from underneath will break it free and it lifts off then the splash pan
which will hold 3 gallons of water just lifts straight off. I never saw any
one with 3 gallons of slop but I fill it with water and put a little
aquarium pump in it to pump water on my diamond lapidary lap to finish off
the bottoms of crystal glaze pots after they are cut off the catch basins.
When trimming I put the cylindrical plastic piece that I cut from the
bottom of a Rubbermaid garbage can in place to form a high wall and I can
have 3 gallons of trimmings before I have to empty it.
Fred Paget
>I have used all the various kinds of wheel/splash pans, and in my opinion,
>the Brent is the very best splash pan design. If you really know of a
>superior one, I would love to hear about it.
>Best wishes -
>- Vince
>From Fred Paget, Marin County, California, USA
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