Donald Burroughs on sun 9 apr 00
Dear Doug
I was wondering if you might share your experience on the use of shino
and oribe glazes in a wood kiln. I found your request for this situation in
the database at clayart (Apr.'98). I am currently firing at around cone 12
to 13 with wood. To all others your responses are also appreciated.I am
firing this week of April 9 to 15,2000. Would appreciate quick response.
Thanks to all!
Sincerely,Donald Burroughs
'Chapatsu' Rob Uechi on mon 10 apr 00
If wood firings are reduction, I don't know how the oribe would be
able to turn out green. Would putting it in a saggar keep it oxidized?
Deborah B. on mon 10 apr 00
Hi Donald,
I've seen some shinos that are great in the wood fire!
Here's one from Jack Troys wood fire book:
AUSTRALIAN SHINO
55 neph sye
17 potash feldspar
14 ball clay
14 Kaolin
3 salt
5 bentonite
Any suggestions on firing my 2" x 8" "junk fire brick" experimental wood
kiln? All I need is a culvert for the stack. This is an experiment for me.
Have fired wood with a group at the Waterville Wood Kiln in conjuction
with the university Wis. system. With Chris Davis Benedevous/Jeff
Noska/Charlie Olson.
Deborah Blackwell
Bailey Road Art Studio
Delavan, WI
vangoughlover@hotmail.com
>From: Donald Burroughs
>Reply-To: Ceramic Arts Discussion List
>To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
>Subject: Re: wood firing of Oribe and Shino Glazes.
>Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 23:33:23 EDT
>
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Dear Doug
> I was wondering if you might share your experience on the use of
>shino
>and oribe glazes in a wood kiln. I found your request for this situation in
>the database at clayart (Apr.'98). I am currently firing at around cone 12
>to 13 with wood. To all others your responses are also appreciated.I am
>firing this week of April 9 to 15,2000. Would appreciate quick response.
>Thanks to all!
>
> Sincerely,Donald Burroughs
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Hank Murrow on mon 10 apr 00
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Dear Doug
> I was wondering if you might share your experience on the use of shino
>and oribe glazes in a wood kiln. I found your request for this situation in
>the database at clayart (Apr.'98). I am currently firing at around cone 12
>to 13 with wood. To all others your responses are also appreciated.I am
>firing this week of April 9 to 15,2000. Would appreciate quick response.
>Thanks to all!
>
> Sincerely,Donald Burroughs
Dear Donald; I have some experience firing Shinos in the East Creek
Kiln belonging to Nils Lou, the U of Oregon anagama in Eugene, and the
Jewel Creek anagama on the Oregon coast. I have found that the pots which
received the largest ashfall turned greenish color where the ash landed.
That isn't so surprising, since it is well known that a little calcium will
kill the firecolor in shinos. They were beautiful, however, with a lovely
modulation of color from firebox side to flue side. Any of the high Neph
sye/Spodumene (New Zealand type) shinos will work well. I prefer to leave
out the soda ash to get the best contrast from reddish to green (no carbon
trap for me, thanks).
Four hundred years ago, when Hideoshi brought the Korean potters
back to Japan; they also brought the Nobori-gama or multichambered kiln
with them (in their heads). Soon, all those lovely shinos("underfired" and
white, with varegated firecolor) turned into clear glazes which needed a
lot of decoration to liven them up; hence, textile patterns, pools of green
glaze, and wilder forms. In a word..........Oribe. Same clays, same glaze
materials......different result because the firing got hotter and
shorter(from 10 days @ C/8; to 2 days @ C/11). I don't know how Oribe type
glazes will perform for you. Let us know what kind of kiln and schedule you
use, and good luck.
Regards, Hank in Eugene
Edouard Bastarache on tue 11 apr 00
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Hi all,
i fire my Oribe green glaze in reduction
using propane and it looks very well.
Later,
Edouard Bastarache
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Date : 10 avril, 2000 15:28
Objet : Re: wood firing of Oribe and Shino Glazes.
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If wood firings are reduction, I don't know how the oribe would be
able to turn out green. Would putting it in a saggar keep it oxidized?
Donald Burroughs on tue 11 apr 00
We fire a modified Boury Box type kiln here in St,. Agathe, Manitoba and
only mild reduction with a little salt most times. Thanks for the suggestion
Rob. I may try double dipping once with the shino and then the oribe over
top. Any actual recipes you can suggest for the oribe. I have the Japanese
Arts library text "Shino and Oribe Ceramics but there is no specific recipe
that I can reference there.
Sincerely,Donald
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From: "'Chapatsu' Rob Uechi"
To:
Sent: April 10, 2000 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: wood firing of Oribe and Shino Glazes.
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> If wood firings are reduction, I don't know how the oribe would be
> able to turn out green. Would putting it in a saggar keep it oxidized?
>
Hank Murrow on wed 12 apr 00
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>We fire a modified Boury Box type kiln here in St,. Agathe, Manitoba and
>only mild reduction with a little salt most times. Thanks for the suggestion
>Rob. I may try double dipping once with the shino and then the oribe over
>top. Any actual recipes you can suggest for the oribe. I have the Japanese
>Arts library text "Shino and Oribe Ceramics but there is no specific recipe
>that I can reference there.
>
> Sincerely,Donald
Dear Don; Thanks for the further info regarding your firing and kiln. I
doubt that the relatively short firing in your kiln would cause enough
ashfall to "bleach" the firecolor out of your shinos. Soda will not
affect them negatively unless you really lard it on. Regards, Hank in Eugene
Connie Christensen on wed 12 apr 00
I've used Oribe in wood firing and really liked the results. It's
ususally green but also may have flashes of red (and even white on one
pot). I use Shaner Oribe, but slightly alter it.
Shaner Oribe
Custer Feldspar 29.3
Flint 24.0
Whiting 21.2
Talc 7.4
EPK 11.9
Bone Ash 1.0
Blk Copper Oxide 5.2
When I mix this glaze, I use a little more flint (26%) and a little less
Black Copper Oxide (4%). I also add 1.5% bentonite. It's really nice in
salt firings too.
Connie
Connie Christensen on sat 22 apr 00
It was just pointed out to me that I didn't put the cone that Oribe
fires to - oops. It's a cone 10 glaze and I've used it in gas reduction,
salt and wood firing. It turns out nicely in each. In gas reduction I'll
glaze the whole piece but in salt or wood firing I use it more as a
liner with a flashing slip on the outside of the pot.
Shaner Oribe Cone 10
Custer Feldspar 29.3
Flint 24.0
Whiting 21.2
Talc 7.4
EPK 11.9
Bone Ash 1.0
Blk Copper Oxide 5.2
When I mix this glaze, I use a little more flint (26%) and a little less
Black Copper Oxide (4%). I also add 1.5% bentonite.
Connie
(who's thinking about giving up the lurker status - may have to ponder
that over a few margaritas though)
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