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seeking advice on commercial glazes

updated sat 22 apr 00

 

linda rosen on tue 18 apr 00

I am hoping that someone with experience using the following brands in a
classroom setting can suggest some favourites. I am in a teaching situation
where I am not able to mix my own glazes and have a limited budget ( aren't
they always short on $$) which I would rather not squander on glazes which
just frustrate and discourage beginners because they require careful
application or have precise firing requirements - or are downright ugly.
Obviously I will have to test in my own situation and on the particular
white body we are using. I just want some leads on tried and true pallets.
These are the brands which are readily available to me. Spectrum, Opulence,
Tuckers or PSH "in house" glazes.

Linda

in Toronto wishing for Spring

Earl Brunner on wed 19 apr 00

If you can get some of the "in house" glazes in powder form
that would by
far be the most economical. YOu did not indicate a cone or
temperature
range. In the art center where I work We mix our own glazes
for the very reasons you seem to think the premixed one
would be better. A pint of
Cone six glaze from the local ceramic supply company cost
one of my students
about $6.00. I can mix most of our studio glazes for under
$24.00 for
5 gallons. And that is one of the glazes with high cobalt.
the concerns you seem to have about studio mixed glazes will
be the same for your premixed glazes.

linda rosen wrote:
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> I am hoping that someone with experience using the following brands in a
> classroom setting can suggest some favourites. I am in a teaching situation
> where I am not able to mix my own glazes and have a limited budget ( aren't
> they always short on $$) which I would rather not squander on glazes which
> just frustrate and discourage beginners because they require careful
> application or have precise firing requirements - or are downright ugly.
> Obviously I will have to test in my own situation and on the particular
> white body we are using. I just want some leads on tried and true pallets.
> These are the brands which are readily available to me. Spectrum, Opulence,
> Tuckers or PSH "in house" glazes.
>
> Linda
>
> in Toronto wishing for Spring

--
Earl Brunner
http://coyote.accessnv.com/bruec
mailto:bruec@anv.net

Andie on wed 19 apr 00

I use some "bought" glazes, and am not ashamed to admit that I just can't
quite get those colors myself yet. I'm happy to share my favorites:

Spectrum (?) Sea Mist (a high fire look runny light green that goes buttery
yellow with texture on porcelain)

Spectrum Textured Kiwi (nice runny medium green)

Opulence Antique Iron (very nice brown/purple/black/white - not runny, but
reacts very differently on different clays)

Opulence Blue Monday (okay, MUST BE SIFTED, then SIFT AGAIN, and again, &
again, but worth it for a beautiful runny blue)

Laguna Oasis Blue (blue/green at cone 6, more blue at cone 8)

Laguna Redwood Matte (nice rich reddish brown matte with black speckles)

Also, thought you might want to know about my bought glaze disasters (all
offered poor coverage and/or were ugly as sin in my tests):

Laguna Bamboo Matte
Opulence Grape
Everything Amaco I ever tried (about 10 different ones - I went through a
very optimistic phase)
Spectrum Celedon
Laguna Yellow Ochre
Laguna Peacock Blue
Opulence Hunter Green
Opulence Pink
Spectrum Burgundy
Spectrum Goldenrod
(note: I am remembering these last two as Spectrum, might have been
Opulence)

I have fired and multi-fired all of these to cone 5, cone 6, and up to cone
7/8. Never had a problem except occasional running at higher temps, and all
of my favorites also layer very well with each other.

Good Luck!

: ) Andie




-----Original Message-----
From: linda rosen
To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Date: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 3:00 PM
Subject: seeking advice on commercial glazes


>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>I am hoping that someone with experience using the following brands in a
>classroom setting can suggest some favourites. I am in a teaching situation
>where I am not able to mix my own glazes and have a limited budget ( aren't
>they always short on $$) which I would rather not squander on glazes which
>just frustrate and discourage beginners because they require careful
>application or have precise firing requirements - or are downright ugly.
>Obviously I will have to test in my own situation and on the particular
>white body we are using. I just want some leads on tried and true pallets.
>These are the brands which are readily available to me. Spectrum, Opulence,
>Tuckers or PSH "in house" glazes.
>
>Linda
>
>in Toronto wishing for Spring
>

Rod, Marian, and Holly Morris on wed 19 apr 00

We probably all have our favorites, but I have been very pleased with all of
the in-house glazes that Seattle Pottery Supply makes.

Opulence has a special this month (see ad in CM) several promising looking
new glazes $4.99/pint, no shipping charges. Can't beat that!

Marian in Michigan
----- Original Message -----
From: "linda rosen"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 2:59 PM
Subject: seeking advice on commercial glazes


> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> I am hoping that someone with experience using the following brands in a
> classroom setting can suggest some favourites. I am in a teaching
situation
> where I am not able to mix my own glazes and have a limited budget
aren't
> they always short on $$) which I would rather not squander on glazes which
> just frustrate and discourage beginners because they require careful
> application or have precise firing requirements - or are downright ugly.
> Obviously I will have to test in my own situation and on the particular
> white body we are using. I just want some leads on tried and true pallets.
> These are the brands which are readily available to me. Spectrum,
Opulence,
> Tuckers or PSH "in house" glazes.
>
> Linda
>
> in Toronto wishing for Spring
>

NakedClay@aol.com on thu 20 apr 00

Hi Linda!

Could you provide a little more information, such as the cone you fire to?
Also, where is the school located? If it's in California, I can recommend
some glazes made by Lesley Ceramics, in Berkeley, or Aardvark, in Santa Ana.
Please write back, with this information.

Thanks!

Milton NakedClay@AOL.COM

linda rosen on thu 20 apr 00

Earl

I agree with you completely. Mixing glazes would be best. I would have
confidence in glazes where I was in control of the components. I should
have explained more fully my reasons for choosing the commercial glaze
route - No scale , no sieve, and no materials storage space as well as no
payment for prep hours. I am already expected to load kilns and teach
simultaneously. Sure I would save my students money by making glazes, but it
would be money out of my own pocket. Administrators do not always
administrate wisely ( this is not news). If I ran the world....

Cheers from Linda
Toronto, ON
-----Original Message-----
From: Earl Brunner
clip:
> I can mix most of our studio glazes for under
$24.00 for 5 gallons.
clip

P.S.. sorry you missed my second post. I am using cone 6 white stoneware.

Don & June MacDonald on fri 21 apr 00

It would seem to me that you have an opportunity to negotiate with the
administrators about having an effective pottery program. Often someone
in the community gets the idea that it would be nice to have clay
classes without knowing the first thing about the medium. I have even
heard the under educated presume that you can put pots in the oven to
"cook" them. If you were to list requirement of a properly run program
and present them to the top, making sure that you stress the fact that a
program run with all of the components would be more valued by their
customers, perhaps it would have those in charge review the lack of
equipment and the lack of space, also the lack of paid time on your part
to do the job properly.
Educating administrators is time consuming, but those administrators
like programs that bring in consumer paid revenue, and they like to feel
that they have quality programming. I also feel that you should
negotiate for yourself firing time/tech time for each class, because the
time spent doing other things lessens the actual time students get your
full attention. It might be effective to acquire information from other
facilities running a similar program to see what their costs are, and
what their charges are for comparison. If the administrators know that
your goal is to do the best possible job for the centre or facility, I
doubt they will ignore you.

June (from the other side of Canada)

linda rosen wrote:
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Earl
>
> I agree with you completely. Mixing glazes would be best. I would have
> confidence in glazes where I was in control of the components. I should
> have explained more fully my reasons for choosing the commercial glaze
> route - No scale , no sieve, and no materials storage space as well as no
> payment for prep hours. I am already expected to load kilns and teach
> simultaneously. Sure I would save my students money by making glazes, but it
> would be money out of my own pocket. Administrators do not always
> administrate wisely ( this is not news). If I ran the world....
>
> Cheers from Linda
> Toronto, ON
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Earl Brunner
> clip:
> > I can mix most of our studio glazes for under
> $24.00 for 5 gallons.
> clip
>
> P.S.. sorry you missed my second post. I am using cone 6 white stoneware.