Judy Kanigel on wed 7 jun 00
Hi all,
For years I have been peeking at and enjoying websites that many of you have
labored over, spent a fortune on, or both. I have even saved many of them on
my list of favorites so I can look again. It's like visiting an art gallery
without leaving the house.
Soooo... now I am seriously thinking of setting up my own website. But I
don't know the best way to go about it. I was thinking of buying a color
scanner/printer/FAX. Someone suggested a digital camera. What brands are
good;, what works and what doesn't; can you sell your pots on the web? Where
do you start and what kind of investment do you need to make both in time
and money?
I'd love to hear from some of you experts out there in Clayartland. It
would even help to know what not to do!
TIA,
Judy
in Cambridge where people are still wearing long sleeves and jackets in June
Oooladies@AOL.COM on thu 8 jun 00
I would reccommend a digital camera over a scanner..... why, because you
eliminate the step of taking and developing and then scanning the image. We
got a digital camera 2 years ago and I love it!! One of the pluses to mine
is that it uses floppy disc, reg old floppy to save the images on, no cable
or uploading images. just take the disc outta the camera and stick it in the
comptuer. I have a Sony Mavica
marie
www.oooladies.com
Wendy Neilson on thu 8 jun 00
Hi Judy... I'm not an expert but I'll answer your query anyway. I've just
about finished, except for a bit of polishing and a few more photos, our
www.pigpottery.com web site.
The digital camera was the route I took and it has been a breeze with the
help of Microsoft Photo Draw and a wonderful web person called Donna who put
the thing together and made it all work quite easily.
Between us I think we've come up with a catchy little site that links well
to our B & B and Longstay.
If you would like any help.. let me know through direct e-mail so we don't
clutter up clayart with all the boring details.
No, it was not expensive to do if you can do some of the design work and
work along side your web person. (I'll send along Donna's e-mail if you
would like to contact her.)
The camera I have is a Fujifilm MX 2700...(expensive) I researched this
very carefully and I'm sold on this little machine. It works like a hot damn
and even a non tech person can operate it. The resolution is about the best
it gets at this point in digital development.. or so I have been told.
Scanners are dandy and have a use but the digital did the job for me.
No one is beating down the door as a result of this site but it does make it
easy to show some work and have a customer request a digital of something
else you might have on the shelf... takes only a minute to photograph and
send an e-mail... done......piece of cake........Orders for pet dishes are
coming as a direct result of the site.......... a few pigs being shipped out
but not enough to retire on.... yet....
Good luck......... wendy neilson
Victoria, BC, Canada
pigpottery@home.com
www.pigpottery.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Judy Kanigel
To:
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 4:47 PM
Subject: Setting up a website
> Hi all,
> For years I have been peeking at and enjoying websites that many of you
have
> labored over, spent a fortune on, or both. I have even saved many of them
on
> my list of favorites so I can look again. It's like visiting an art
gallery
> without leaving the house.
> Soooo... now I am seriously thinking of setting up my own website. But I
> don't know the best way to go about it. I was thinking of buying a color
> scanner/printer/FAX. Someone suggested a digital camera. What brands are
> good;, what works and what doesn't; can you sell your pots on the web?
Where
> do you start and what kind of investment do you need to make both in time
> and money?
> I'd love to hear from some of you experts out there in Clayartland. It
> would even help to know what not to do!
> TIA,
> Judy
> in Cambridge where people are still wearing long sleeves and jackets in
June
>
>
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Oooladies@AOL.COM on fri 9 jun 00
Cindy,
Yes I take all my images with my digital now. I used to scan in photos, but
no more, it is just tooo easy to use the digital! The camera I use, Sony
Mavica, Digital Still, MVC-FD71 is pretty simple to use. I can shoot in
either fine mode or standard, I use fine, it makes the files a little larger
but the images are better. there is a 10x zoom so i can do details quite
nicely. You can even change the program so you can choose to shoot in color
or in black and white. I prefer to shoot outside in natural lighting. I
usually either set my work up outside in either early morning or late
afternoon so i am not getting bright sunlight, and no shadows. I use a black
or white cloth, or sometimes felt as backdrop. The one drawback to using
only the digital is the fact of no actual photographs of the work. you can
print out on the printer but it isn't as good as a real photo....BUT .... now
I have found a solution to this. www.shutterfly.com. They can produce an
actual photo from digital files. You upload to their site and they will send
you actual real photographs of the images. I have done it, it is great!
They were doing a special, I think it runs thru june 30, but not positive,
that when you sign up they will do 100 free photos for you, multilple images
if you like, or all of just one, whatever. If you do the whole 100 in one
order the shipping is even free!
Well, hope this helps, please feel free to aske for more info if i haven't
been clear enough, or skipped something you needed to know. (and thanks for
looking at my work, and your kind words!)
marie
www.oooladies.com
In a message dated 6/9/00 2:45:42 PM Pacific Daylight Time, earthenv@GWTC.NET
writes:
<< Marie,
Did you take the photos at your website (www.oooladies.com ) with your Sony
Mavica? They're great! (The work is beautiful as well--I especially like
"Empty Nest".) Would you be willing to elaborate on your photography
techniques, and give some details about this digital camera?
Thanks,
Cindy Strnad
earthenv@gwtc.net
Earthen Vessels Pottery
RR 1, Box 51
Custer, SD 57730
>>
Cindy Strnad on fri 9 jun 00
Marie,
Did you take the photos at your website (www.oooladies.com ) with your Sony
Mavica? They're great! (The work is beautiful as well--I especially like
"Empty Nest".) Would you be willing to elaborate on your photography
techniques, and give some details about this digital camera?
Thanks,
Cindy Strnad
earthenv@gwtc.net
Earthen Vessels Pottery
RR 1, Box 51
Custer, SD 57730
Paul Taylor on sun 11 jun 00
dear judy
I am still building my webb site I shall be interested in the replies
you get.
I bought a scanner because I have prints and it was only sixty pounds I am
saving for a digi camera.
I used cyber studio (Webb builder program) and photoshop. I am sure Page
mill(Webb builder program) would have done but I think photoshop is worth
getting especially since there is a setting that prepares images for the
webb and my graphics friends tell me that photoshop does it better than
them.
I have two mentors who have nursed me through the difficult stuff I could
not have done it with out them. Mind you they threatened me with ex
communication if I bought anything but a Mac computer.
So far no music and no animated graphics. I would like some music if I can
persuade one of the local musicians to record me some.
Animations a bit naff for the prices I charge.
There are some free tutorials on the webb that give the lowdown on the
search engins. I hope in the future that we will all realize that cluttering
the net with misleading search helpers is counter productive.
I think that webb sales are for the future. The Idea of buying on the webb
has to reach a cultural mass before it becomes common. But I am a bit weary
of it ever taking off here because not every thing from the Empire States
does in Europe. Automatic clutches and cheap postage for instance are not
popular here but Macdonalds are. I will probably have to adjust my range to
sell on the net.
When I get the bugs out I hope to be able to communicate with customers
by putting up an order page. I could send the e-mail but I like the Idea of
the pot being shown to every body and the site changing week by week.
I shall include some alternative information for visitors to Westport
(Ireland).
And all the stuff that I give my students.
And any thing that takes my fancy, essays, poetry, the songs my family
sing.
I think a domain name is important. How important???. but my server wants
to charge me 300 pounds Irish to host it. I could get a repost service
involved but I suspect they will want to put flashing banner adverts every
ware ??.
There is a disgusting name sake of mine who calls himself the public
offender I am thinking of changing my name Because any search for Paul
Taylor brings him up.
Regards Paul Taylor
> From: Judy Kanigel
> Reply-To: Ceramic Arts Discussion List
> Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 19:47:29 -0400
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Subject: Setting up a website
>
> Hi all,
> For years I have been peeking at and enjoying websites that many of you have
> labored over, spent a fortune on, or both. I have even saved many of them on
> my list of favorites so I can look again. It's like visiting an art gallery
> without leaving the house.
> Soooo... now I am seriously thinking of setting up my own website. But I
> don't know the best way to go about it. I was thinking of buying a color
> scanner/printer/FAX. Someone suggested a digital camera. What brands are
> good;, what works and what doesn't; can you sell your pots on the web? Where
> do you start and what kind of investment do you need to make both in time
> and money?
> I'd love to hear from some of you experts out there in Clayartland. It
> would even help to know what not to do!
> TIA,
> Judy
> in Cambridge where people are still wearing long sleeves and jackets in June
>
> ______________________________________________________________________________
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>
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> melpots@pclink.com.
Ray Aldridge on sun 11 jun 00
At 11:22 AM 6/11/00 -0300, you wrote:
>Paul as far as music on the web pages it seems like a nice idea but I would
>say 99 times out of 100 it causes my computer to crash or freeze. I was
>talking to someone who does a lot of computer work and he said it is not an
>uncommon problem. When the site causes me to have to reboot the computer and
>wait for all that I am much less likely to go back to the offending site.
>Just a thought, might not be good for sales.
I'd have to agree that unsolicited music is often irritating. If you're
eager to put music on your site, give the visitor the option of listening,
if she wants to, but don't make visitors wait to hear music they may have
no interest in.
It's my opinion that all websites, and especially art-oriented websites,
should be focused narrowly on a single purpose. The important thing should
be that primary purpose, and not the display of web-building skills.
Notice that the successful commercial sites load quickly, do not make you
wait for endless Java and javascript uploads, do not use excessive
animation, and do not make their content inaccessible to those visitors who
arrive without the latest browsers and plugins.
Content is king. We should all decide whether we want the focus of the
site to be on our art, or on the vast array of web trinkets available to
the web master. The latter will be primarily of interest to other web
masters, but that's not a huge segment of net visitors.
Ray
Aldridge Porcelain and Stoneware
http://www.goodpots.com
Liz Gowen on sun 11 jun 00
Paul as far as music on the web pages it seems like a nice idea but I would
say 99 times out of 100 it causes my computer to crash or freeze. I was
talking to someone who does a lot of computer work and he said it is not an
uncommon problem. When the site causes me to have to reboot the computer and
wait for all that I am much less likely to go back to the offending site.
Just a thought, might not be good for sales.
Liz Gowen NJ USA
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Taylor
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Date: Sunday, June 11, 2000 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: Setting up a website
>
> So far no music and no animated graphics. I would like some music if I
can
>persuade one of the local musicians to record me some.
>
Andie on mon 12 jun 00
Along the same lines as the music, certain animated scrolling banners will
crash Windows 95. Few things make me crazier than going to a website (or
even an eBay item page, or some search engines), and coming across one of
those things. They're a pain to read, and if my computer crashes at a site
due to the scrolling banners or music, I put the URL on a list and NEVER go
back.
Andie
EMAIL: andie@princessco.com
OFFICIAL HOMEPAGE: www.andie.net
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