Ingeborg Foco on wed 14 jun 00
Jeremy,
I have no experience and no real advice, just a personal opinion. I plan
on moving
a 30 cu ft shuttle kiln from the Pacific NW across the US to SW
Florida.(over 3000 miles) In anticipation of the big move, I have numbered
all of the bricks with red oxide and made a "map" of the whole thing in
hopes of being able to reassemble it with relative ease in Florida. My
estimation is that it weighs 3000 plus lbs. It will be shipped with
household goods and I'm guessing will cost at least $l500 - maybe more.
(about the price of shipping a car and I know it would cost a lot more to
build it new---it cost a lot more than that when I had it built) It is
money I really don't want to spend in
that way but I feel I don't have much of a choice and consider it the cost
of moving a studio. I know that it would cost a lot more to build a new
one. While it is a real expense and you have to lay out the actual $$ it is
a deductible expense.
The problem is that everyone wants a kiln or wants to cannibalize it for
the bricks but everyone wants it for free or for very little. I just can't
give it away!! Also, when I get it reinstalled, at least it is a
familiar beast. In addition to moving the dragon, there is a skutt elec
bisque kiln , a pug mill, shelving and all of the other things I have
accumulated over 20 years. I figure that you can't buy something new for
the cost of shipping. If you have equipment you don't like and want
to replace, I think that is the time to do so and get rid of it. Don't move
something and then sell it or junk it at your new location.
I dread this whole scenario and will disassemble and box it myself in
hopes of an easier time reassembling it. I have located a mover that
insures for full value instead of that pennies per lb like most of them do.
If things get damaged...well, I'll replace them.
I figure this is the last move because the next one will be to the nursing
home and I suspect they probably have rules against high output gas
burners..
Don't know if any of this is at all helpful, but good luck.
Ingeborg
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeremy Shellhase
To:
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 7:17 AM
Subject: How to move an electric kiln 2,500 miles-
> Your ADVICE, OPINION, EXPERIENCES, WILL HELP
>
> Hello List,
>
> I just subscribed, after trying to look through the archives that I
> could find
> for a little bit of advice on how to prepare an electric kiln to be
> moved or
> advice on whether I should sell and rebuy when I resettle.
>
> Moving from Terre Haute Indiana (not my favorite location) to
> Fortuna, California (Humboldt county, redwoods, beaches, way cool
> location)
> in July. I have a ConeArt 8 cu ft electric, used it about 3 years and
> am trying to decide how to ship it. I'm having movers do the
> household
> and am trying to find out how much it will cost to add it in. It's
> about 1000
> pounds so it will cost me. I don't have the original shipping stuff,
> which
> was a pallat, metal straps and a lot of heavy duty cardboard and I am
> worried
> that it could get damaged on the way. I'm considering selling and
> rebuying in
> California, but nobody has any money in this part of Indiana and I'd
> hate to
> sell it way too cheap.
>
> Any help?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Jeremy C. Shellhase
> libshell@isugw.indstate.edu
> later than July 1 use--
> jshellhase@mindspring.com
>
>
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Jeremy Shellhase on wed 14 jun 00
Your ADVICE, OPINION, EXPERIENCES, WILL HELP
Hello List,
I just subscribed, after trying to look through the archives that I
could find
for a little bit of advice on how to prepare an electric kiln to be
moved or
advice on whether I should sell and rebuy when I resettle.
Moving from Terre Haute Indiana (not my favorite location) to
Fortuna, California (Humboldt county, redwoods, beaches, way cool
location)
in July. I have a ConeArt 8 cu ft electric, used it about 3 years and
am trying to decide how to ship it. I'm having movers do the
household
and am trying to find out how much it will cost to add it in. It's
about 1000
pounds so it will cost me. I don't have the original shipping stuff,
which
was a pallat, metal straps and a lot of heavy duty cardboard and I am
worried
that it could get damaged on the way. I'm considering selling and
rebuying in
California, but nobody has any money in this part of Indiana and I'd
hate to
sell it way too cheap.
Any help?
Thanks in advance
Jeremy C. Shellhase
libshell@isugw.indstate.edu
later than July 1 use--
jshellhase@mindspring.com
Arnold Howard on wed 14 jun 00
Place a sheet of thin flexible styrofoam between the
lid and kiln. Make a wooden crate. Brace the kiln
inside to prevent movement inside the crate.
The main problem is not in packing, but in handling.
If your mover understands that the kiln is fragile and
gives it the same care as a TV set, it should arrive
with no damage whatever.
With best wishes,
Arnold Howard
Paragon
--- Jeremy Shellhase
wrote:
> Your ADVICE, OPINION, EXPERIENCES, WILL HELP
>
> Hello List,
>
> I just subscribed, after trying to look through the
> archives that I
> could find
> for a little bit of advice on how to prepare an
> electric kiln to be
> moved or
> advice on whether I should sell and rebuy when I
> resettle.
>
> Moving from Terre Haute Indiana (not my favorite
> location) to
> Fortuna, California (Humboldt county, redwoods,
> beaches, way cool
> location)
> in July. I have a ConeArt 8 cu ft electric, used it
> about 3 years and
> am trying to decide how to ship it. I'm having
> movers do the
> household
> and am trying to find out how much it will cost to
> add it in. It's
> about 1000
> pounds so it will cost me. I don't have the
> original shipping stuff,
> which
> was a pallat, metal straps and a lot of heavy duty
> cardboard and I am
> worried
> that it could get damaged on the way. I'm
> considering selling and
> rebuying in
> California, but nobody has any money in this part of
> Indiana and I'd
> hate to
> sell it way too cheap.
>
> Any help?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Jeremy C. Shellhase
> libshell@isugw.indstate.edu
> later than July 1 use--
> jshellhase@mindspring.com
>
>
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sdpotter@GTE.NET on wed 14 jun 00
Jeremy,
You should also take into consideration of how happy you are
with the kiln. If you're happy with it, take it. I'm not too
familiar with Cone Art Kilns, but if you can take the rings apart
then you lessen the chance of falling over, unless you have a front
loader or a solid wall.
If you want to sell, instead of trying locally, look around in the vicinty.
Try any local suppliers, schools, or organizations.
Hope this helps,
Steve
----------
> From: Jeremy Shellhase
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Subject: How to move an electric kiln 2,500 miles-
> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 09:17:42 -0500
>
>Your ADVICE, OPINION, EXPERIENCES, WILL HELP
>
>Hello List,
>
>I just subscribed, after trying to look through the archives that I
>could find
>for a little bit of advice on how to prepare an electric kiln to be
>moved or
>advice on whether I should sell and rebuy when I resettle.
>
>Moving from Terre Haute Indiana (not my favorite location) to
>Fortuna, California (Humboldt county, redwoods, beaches, way cool
>location)
>in July. I have a ConeArt 8 cu ft electric, used it about 3 years and
>am trying to decide how to ship it. I'm having movers do the
>household
>and am trying to find out how much it will cost to add it in. It's
>about 1000
>pounds so it will cost me. I don't have the original shipping stuff,
>which
>was a pallat, metal straps and a lot of heavy duty cardboard and I am
>worried
>that it could get damaged on the way. I'm considering selling and
>rebuying in
>California, but nobody has any money in this part of Indiana and I'd
>hate to
>sell it way too cheap.
>
>Any help?
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>Jeremy C. Shellhase
>libshell@isugw.indstate.edu
>later than July 1 use--
>jshellhase@mindspring.com
>
>___________________________________________________________________________
___
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chris@euclids.com on wed 14 jun 00
> in July. I have a ConeArt 8 cu ft electric, used it about 3 years and
> am trying to decide how to ship it. I'm having movers do the
> household
Hi Jeremy,
We have heard alot of stories of moving companies ruining kilns & have
repaired a few of these ones too. If you do go this route, make sure the
kiln is insured.
The most common thing is to break all of the bottom wall bricks, this is
because they usually remove the top & bottom slabs to make it lighter ...
this exposes the bottom wall bricks which get damaged each time the kiln is
put down.
A good kiln repairman should be able to pack it up & get it ready for
shipping. (check out our serviceperson list @
http://www.euclids.com/servicedir.htm )
My best advice is to call Coneart. Apparently, they shipped it to you
without it breaking ... just do what they did & everything should turn out
fine.
good luck,
chris
chris@euclids.com
www.euclids.com
800-296-5456
Milton Markey on thu 15 jun 00
Hi Jeremy, and other Kiln movers!
I suggest hiring a local carpenter to build you a wooden crate, to ship your
kiln in. You might consider using a pallet as a base, so that a forklift can
be used to move the kiln onto or off a truck.
My kiln, a Skutt, was shipped from Kansas to S. California in a simple wooden
crate. The box was well made, so that it withstood a commercial shipper, with
nary a scratch on the kiln. The crate now serves as a temporary ''storage"
facility, to house the kiln until my studio is built.
Best wishes!
Milton NakedClay@AOL.COM
Glad to be back home, after a lovely vacation on the East Coast.
Diane G. Echlin on thu 15 jun 00
Okay, I may be a victim of advertising, but Mailboxes Etc. "can pack & ship
anything." I went to my local MBE yesterday and posed the question, and they said
that they could put it on a pallet, build a crate, and send it to the new location,
but be sure to buy the insurance. It's pricey, but so is a new kiln.
Good luck!
Di
"chris@euclids.com" wrote:
> > in July. I have a ConeArt 8 cu ft electric, used it about 3 years and
> > am trying to decide how to ship it. I'm having movers do the
> > household
>
> Hi Jeremy,
> We have heard alot of stories of moving companies ruining kilns & have
> repaired a few of these ones too. If you do go this route, make sure the
> kiln is insured.
> The most common thing is to break all of the bottom wall bricks, this is
> because they usually remove the top & bottom slabs to make it lighter ...
> this exposes the bottom wall bricks which get damaged each time the kiln is
> put down.
> A good kiln repairman should be able to pack it up & get it ready for
> shipping. (check out our serviceperson list @
> http://www.euclids.com/servicedir.htm )
> My best advice is to call Coneart. Apparently, they shipped it to you
> without it breaking ... just do what they did & everything should turn out
> fine.
> good luck,
> chris
>
> chris@euclids.com
> www.euclids.com
> 800-296-5456
>
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ferenc jakab on sat 17 jun 00
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ingeborg Foco"
To:
Sent: Thursday, 15 June 2000 12:22 pm
Subject: Re: How to move an electric kiln 2,500 miles-
> Jeremy,
>
> I have no experience and no real advice, just a personal opinion. I plan
> on moving
> a 30 cu ft shuttle kiln from the Pacific NW across the US to SW
Ingeborg,
I know things are different in th U.S. But I had to move my studio and when
I dismantled my 96 cu' catenary arch kiln it stacked 4 pallets plus every
thing else. Fortunately I have a heavy truck licence so I hired a 12 tonne
box van and moved it all with that. cost of truck $300.00, two helpers
$150.00 each, pallet lifter $24.00. I only had to go 80 miles though. The
truck had a hydraulic lift back, which helped with loading.
Feri.
Herb Moses on mon 19 jun 00
Watch out for you local Pack and Ship. Last week we were "back home" and I
shipped a large fountain back to me that someone had been storing for me.
It arrived broken. We ship all the time and have never lost a piece. The
one time I have to use MBE they ruin a $500 piece. And yes, I bought the
insurance.
Herb
http://www.usapottery.com
Palm Springs Pottery
198 S. Indian Canyon Drive
Palm Springs, CA 92262
----- Original Message -----
From: Diane G. Echlin
To:
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 5:41 AM
Subject: Re: How to move an electric kiln 2,500 miles-
> Okay, I may be a victim of advertising, but Mailboxes Etc. "can pack &
ship
> anything." I went to my local MBE yesterday and posed the question, and
they said
> that they could put it on a pallet, build a crate, and send it to the new
location,
> but be sure to buy the insurance. It's pricey, but so is a new kiln.
> Good luck!
> Di
>
> "chris@euclids.com" wrote:
>
> > > in July. I have a ConeArt 8 cu ft electric, used it about 3 years and
> > > am trying to decide how to ship it. I'm having movers do the
> > > household
> >
> > Hi Jeremy,
> > We have heard alot of stories of moving companies ruining kilns & have
> > repaired a few of these ones too. If you do go this route, make sure the
> > kiln is insured.
> > The most common thing is to break all of the bottom wall bricks, this is
> > because they usually remove the top & bottom slabs to make it lighter
...
> > this exposes the bottom wall bricks which get damaged each time the kiln
is
> > put down.
> > A good kiln repairman should be able to pack it up & get it ready for
> > shipping. (check out our serviceperson list @
> > http://www.euclids.com/servicedir.htm )
> > My best advice is to call Coneart. Apparently, they shipped it to you
> > without it breaking ... just do what they did & everything should turn
out
> > fine.
> > good luck,
> > chris
> >
> > chris@euclids.com
> > www.euclids.com
> > 800-296-5456
> >
> >
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melpots@pclink.com.
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