'Chapatsu' Rob Uechi on tue 20 jun 00
Hi. I have a question for those of you who are knowledgeable about
shino. Today while going though e-bay, I saw some shino bowls and
wondered about certain things. Here are urls to the pictures followed by
questions.
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=362130924
I noticed that for the shinos I use, they tend to blister when
overlapped with another glaze. Is it different for wood ash, or do you
think it is because of the kind of shino I use?
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=362155446
Any ideas on how he gets those grey spots?
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=362619462
More grey spots and patches. How do you get the shino to come out white
without the flashing? Can you just leave out the soda ash?
By the way, I refired Tom Coleman's B shino in a regular kiln and it came
out a very nice reddish orange. It looked nothing like the barf shino I
got previously when I fired it in a small test kiln. It must have cooled
too quickly. (This was not the shino I used when I overlapped glazes and
caused the blistering)
Earl Brunner on wed 21 jun 00
I get that look (grey spots) from spraying barbecue charcoal
ash (not a lot of options out here in the desert for ash)on
the shino. In his description he mentions ash on those
pots.
'Chapatsu' Rob Uechi wrote:
>
> Hi. I have a question for those of you who are knowledgeable about
> shino. Today while going though e-bay, I saw some shino bowls and
> wondered about certain things. Here are urls to the pictures followed by
> questions.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=362130924
>
> I noticed that for the shinos I use, they tend to blister when
> overlapped with another glaze. Is it different for wood ash, or do you
> think it is because of the kind of shino I use?
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=362155446
>
> Any ideas on how he gets those grey spots?
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=362619462
>
> More grey spots and patches. How do you get the shino to come out white
> without the flashing? Can you just leave out the soda ash?
>
> By the way, I refired Tom Coleman's B shino in a regular kiln and it came
> out a very nice reddish orange. It looked nothing like the barf shino I
> got previously when I fired it in a small test kiln. It must have cooled
> too quickly. (This was not the shino I used when I overlapped glazes and
> caused the blistering)
>
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Earl Brunner
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Linda Hughes on wed 21 jun 00
Hi Rob,
Have you seen the new Tom Colemn Book: WITH A LITTLE HELP FROM MY FRIENDS?
There are several shino recipes, one of which has those grey spots you are
looking for. If you cannot find the book let me know and I can send you
those recipes. Linda
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Chapatsu' Rob Uechi
To:
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 12:02 AM
Subject: Questions about shino
> Hi. I have a question for those of you who are knowledgeable about
> shino. Today while going though e-bay, I saw some shino bowls and
> wondered about certain things. Here are urls to the pictures followed by
> questions.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=362130924
>
> I noticed that for the shinos I use, they tend to blister when
> overlapped with another glaze. Is it different for wood ash, or do you
> think it is because of the kind of shino I use?
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=362155446
>
> Any ideas on how he gets those grey spots?
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=362619462
>
> More grey spots and patches. How do you get the shino to come out white
> without the flashing? Can you just leave out the soda ash?
>
> By the way, I refired Tom Coleman's B shino in a regular kiln and it came
> out a very nice reddish orange. It looked nothing like the barf shino I
> got previously when I fired it in a small test kiln. It must have cooled
> too quickly. (This was not the shino I used when I overlapped glazes and
> caused the blistering)
>
>
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__
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>
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>
> Moderator of the list is Mel Jacobson who may be reached at
melpots@pclink.com.
>
Lois Ruben Aronow on wed 21 jun 00
It appears that the seller - dmcarts2u - is most likely also the
artist - D. Michael Coffee. =20
Why not drop him an email? Better yet - maybe he's got some knowledge
to share with us here on Clayart.
(snipped for brevity)
>Hi. I have a question for those of you who are knowledgeable about
>shino. Today while going though e-bay, I saw some shino bowls and
>wondered about certain things. Here are urls to the pictures followed =
by
>questions.
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D362130924
>
Linda Hughes on thu 22 jun 00
Hi Rob,
You can conact Aardvark @ 714-541-4157 or you can contact the via internet
@ www.aardvarkclay.com. Are studying at U of W this summer? If so, I can
stop by, I have the Aardvark catalogue and the Coleman book. I need to show
Doug couple of pieces so I can do both at the same time.Good luck, Linda
----- Original Message -----
From: Phyliss Ward
To:
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: Questions about shino
> You can order Tom's book and Coleman's porcelain through Aardvark Clay in
Santa Ana,
> California.
>
>
> 'Chapatsu' Rob Uechi wrote:
>
> > Hi Linda, last month I tried to order this from Barnes and Noble as well
> > as Axner, but they didn't have the title listed. Do you have to order
it
> > from Coleman directly?
> >
> > Also, does anyone know where you can purchase Coleman's porcelain?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > On Wed, 21 Jun 2000, Linda Hughes wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Rob,
> > > Have you seen the new Tom Colemn Book: WITH A LITTLE HELP FROM MY
FRIENDS?
> > > There are several shino recipes, one of which has those grey spots
you are
> > > looking for. If you cannot find the book let me know and I can send
you
> > > those recipes. Linda
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: 'Chapatsu' Rob Uechi
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 12:02 AM
> > > Subject: Questions about shino
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi. I have a question for those of you who are knowledgeable about
> > > > shino. Today while going though e-bay, I saw some shino bowls and
> > > > wondered about certain things. Here are urls to the pictures
followed by
> > > > questions.
> > > >
> > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=362130924
> > > >
> > > > I noticed that for the shinos I use, they tend to blister when
> > > > overlapped with another glaze. Is it different for wood ash, or do
you
> > > > think it is because of the kind of shino I use?
> > > >
> > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=362155446
> > > >
> > > > Any ideas on how he gets those grey spots?
> > > >
> > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=362619462
> > > >
> > > > More grey spots and patches. How do you get the shino to come out
white
> > > > without the flashing? Can you just leave out the soda ash?
> > > >
> > > > By the way, I refired Tom Coleman's B shino in a regular kiln and it
came
> > > > out a very nice reddish orange. It looked nothing like the barf
shino I
> > > > got previously when I fired it in a small test kiln. It must have
cooled
> > > > too quickly. (This was not the shino I used when I overlapped
glazes and
> > > > caused the blistering)
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
____________________________________________________________________________
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> > > >
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> > > >
> > > > Moderator of the list is Mel Jacobson who may be reached at
> > > melpots@pclink.com.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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melpots@pclink.com.
> > >
> >
> >
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>
>
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Russel Fouts on thu 22 jun 00
Chapatsu,
WOW, nice shinos and really different. I'd bid on them my self if I could
afford the shipping. No idea how he gets those effects but it's the first
time I've seen ash glaze over shino so maybe that has something to do with
it.
The sake cup and the first link are real winners.
Russel
Russel Fouts
Mes Potes & Mes Pots
Brussels, Belgium
Tel: +32 2 223 02 75
Mobile: +32 476 55 38 75
Http://www.mypots.com
http://www.Japan-Net.ne.jp/~iwcat
'Chapatsu' Rob Uechi on thu 22 jun 00
Hi Linda, last month I tried to order this from Barnes and Noble as well
as Axner, but they didn't have the title listed. Do you have to order it
from Coleman directly?
Also, does anyone know where you can purchase Coleman's porcelain?
Thanks
On Wed, 21 Jun 2000, Linda Hughes wrote:
> Hi Rob,
> Have you seen the new Tom Colemn Book: WITH A LITTLE HELP FROM MY FRIENDS?
> There are several shino recipes, one of which has those grey spots you are
> looking for. If you cannot find the book let me know and I can send you
> those recipes. Linda
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 'Chapatsu' Rob Uechi
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 12:02 AM
> Subject: Questions about shino
>
>
> > Hi. I have a question for those of you who are knowledgeable about
> > shino. Today while going though e-bay, I saw some shino bowls and
> > wondered about certain things. Here are urls to the pictures followed by
> > questions.
> >
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=362130924
> >
> > I noticed that for the shinos I use, they tend to blister when
> > overlapped with another glaze. Is it different for wood ash, or do you
> > think it is because of the kind of shino I use?
> >
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=362155446
> >
> > Any ideas on how he gets those grey spots?
> >
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=362619462
> >
> > More grey spots and patches. How do you get the shino to come out white
> > without the flashing? Can you just leave out the soda ash?
> >
> > By the way, I refired Tom Coleman's B shino in a regular kiln and it came
> > out a very nice reddish orange. It looked nothing like the barf shino I
> > got previously when I fired it in a small test kiln. It must have cooled
> > too quickly. (This was not the shino I used when I overlapped glazes and
> > caused the blistering)
> >
> >
> ____________________________________________________________________________
> __
> > Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
> >
> > You may look at the archives for the list or change your subscription
> > settings from http://www.ceramics.org/clayart/
> >
> > Moderator of the list is Mel Jacobson who may be reached at
> melpots@pclink.com.
> >
>
> ______________________________________________________________________________
> Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
>
> You may look at the archives for the list or change your subscription
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>
Lori Leary on thu 22 jun 00
Hi Rob,
If you haven't already looked, there are some nice posts about shinos in
the archives. Our mayor mel has written a good bit on them, and there
is much discussion on Japanese versus "American" shinos. Also, take a
look at Eric Wong's web site at http://clayation.virtualave.net . He
certainly has a way with shinos.
I am not an expert (yet!) on firing shinos, but I love firing them. To
get nice carbon trapping I throw small pieces of wood in the kiln during
body reduction (around ^012), and then again at the end of the firing.
(a trick I learned from our mel) To get gray spots, I will sometimes
sprinkle a little wood ash on the pot while the glaze is still wet,
resulting in subtle gray spots.
Hope this helps,
Lori L.
lleary@scoast.net
Pawleys Island, S.C. USA
Phyliss Ward on thu 22 jun 00
You can order Tom's book and Coleman's porcelain through Aardvark Clay in Santa Ana,
California.
'Chapatsu' Rob Uechi wrote:
> Hi Linda, last month I tried to order this from Barnes and Noble as well
> as Axner, but they didn't have the title listed. Do you have to order it
> from Coleman directly?
>
> Also, does anyone know where you can purchase Coleman's porcelain?
>
> Thanks
>
> On Wed, 21 Jun 2000, Linda Hughes wrote:
>
> > Hi Rob,
> > Have you seen the new Tom Colemn Book: WITH A LITTLE HELP FROM MY FRIENDS?
> > There are several shino recipes, one of which has those grey spots you are
> > looking for. If you cannot find the book let me know and I can send you
> > those recipes. Linda
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: 'Chapatsu' Rob Uechi
> > To:
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 12:02 AM
> > Subject: Questions about shino
> >
> >
> > > Hi. I have a question for those of you who are knowledgeable about
> > > shino. Today while going though e-bay, I saw some shino bowls and
> > > wondered about certain things. Here are urls to the pictures followed by
> > > questions.
> > >
> > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=362130924
> > >
> > > I noticed that for the shinos I use, they tend to blister when
> > > overlapped with another glaze. Is it different for wood ash, or do you
> > > think it is because of the kind of shino I use?
> > >
> > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=362155446
> > >
> > > Any ideas on how he gets those grey spots?
> > >
> > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=362619462
> > >
> > > More grey spots and patches. How do you get the shino to come out white
> > > without the flashing? Can you just leave out the soda ash?
> > >
> > > By the way, I refired Tom Coleman's B shino in a regular kiln and it came
> > > out a very nice reddish orange. It looked nothing like the barf shino I
> > > got previously when I fired it in a small test kiln. It must have cooled
> > > too quickly. (This was not the shino I used when I overlapped glazes and
> > > caused the blistering)
> > >
> > >
> > ____________________________________________________________________________
> > __
> > > Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
> > >
> > > You may look at the archives for the list or change your subscription
> > > settings from http://www.ceramics.org/clayart/
> > >
> > > Moderator of the list is Mel Jacobson who may be reached at
> > melpots@pclink.com.
> > >
> >
> > ______________________________________________________________________________
> > Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
> >
> > You may look at the archives for the list or change your subscription
> > settings from http://www.ceramics.org/clayart/
> >
> > Moderator of the list is Mel Jacobson who may be reached at melpots@pclink.com.
> >
>
> ______________________________________________________________________________
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>
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