Cindy Strnad on sat 1 jul 00
Hi, Joyce.
Yes, beading might be described as excessive crawling. It's also a term used
for applying a moulding-like ring around a piece of pottery. Might be a half
round or some other shape. So the rib would have an indentation shaped like
what you want the "moulding ring" on your pot to look like. I wish I could
draw you a picture, but I'm sure you're getting the idea.
Cindy Strnad
Earthen Vessels Pottery
RR 1, Box 51
Custer, SD 57730
earthenv@gwtc.net
Dannon Rhudy on sat 1 jul 00
A beading rib is a rib with a cut/notched edge to produce a "bead" when
pressed into the clay.
regards
Dannon Rhudy
At 04:32 PM 07/01/2000 -0700, you wrote:
>> Tony has it almost right. I'll be wearing a Hawaiian
>> shirt and red Adidas.
>> We'll be making beading ribs out of Plexiglas scraps,
>>
>
>What is a beading rib? How does it look and what do you do with it?
>My Hamers' says that beading "is excessive crawling..." Can't remember
>where but in another pub I read that beading is just coming into its own
>so its use hasn't really been explored .... There must be more to know
>than that ....... oh, I guess that's what David's workshop will cover.
>Now I really wish I could be there ..... wish in one hand and spit in
>the other ... see which fills up first.
>
>Joyce
>In the Mojave
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Joyce Lee on sat 1 jul 00
> Tony has it almost right. I'll be wearing a Hawaiian
> shirt and red Adidas.
> We'll be making beading ribs out of Plexiglas scraps,
>
What is a beading rib? How does it look and what do you do with it?
My Hamers' says that beading "is excessive crawling..." Can't remember
where but in another pub I read that beading is just coming into its own
so its use hasn't really been explored .... There must be more to know
than that ....... oh, I guess that's what David's workshop will cover.
Now I really wish I could be there ..... wish in one hand and spit in
the other ... see which fills up first.
Joyce
In the Mojave
iandol on sun 2 jul 00
Joyce,
Beading ribs are flat pieces of material which have one or both ends cut =
into a fancy shape. These are pressed against the clay as it revolves. =
This forms a shaped bands on the pot when you press out from the inside =
against the tool. They have been illustrated in adverts in CM in recent =
months. I make mine out of brass or split bamboo. They can be made from =
tongue depressors. They are great for people who do salt or soda glazing =
because they create multiple highlights. The beading they make on a pot =
also catches glaze. If glazes are coloured and transparent they give =
superb tonal contrasts between the thick and thin layers.
People who cannot get to that workshop may be interested to know that =
instructions for making and using them can be found in
Whitford, Philip and Wong, Gordon. Handmade Potter=92s Tools. Pp 34-40. =
Kodansha International. 1986. ISBN0-87011-772-6.
If you need more information get back to me.
Best regards,
Ivor Lewis. Redhill. South Australia.
africaunusual@MWEB.CO.ZA on sun 2 jul 00
On 1 Jul 2000, at 16:32, Joyce Lee wrote:
Hey Joyce
A beading rib is what I would give my eye teeth to be able to make!
It is a rib with a (usually) rounded notch cut out of it. So, when it is
used, clay fills that negative space and you get this lovely even
raised bit all aroung your pot, very often at or near the lip. Nice
finishing touch.
Now, how do I make that little notch even to make lovely beading
round a plate??????
Toni M in South Africa where it is winter and I hope summer is still
far away or that I could have several Springs in a row, but as Joyce
says spitting in the hand is far more likely to fill it than wishes : (
> > We'll be making beading ribs out of Plexiglas scraps,
> >
>
> What is a beading rib?
Jennifer Boyer on sun 2 jul 00
Hi Joyce,
I'm just guessing but I'll bet beading ribs are similar to
Steven Jepson's, for enhancing the profile of a pot with a
"beaded" line. Check out page d-125 in the Axner catalogue, or www.axner.com
Joyce Lee wrote:
>
> > Tony has it almost right. I'll be wearing a Hawaiian
> > shirt and red Adidas.
> > We'll be making beading ribs out of Plexiglas scraps,
> >
>
> What is a beading rib? How does it look and what do you do with it?
> My Hamers' says that beading "is excessive crawling..." Can't remember
> where but in another pub I read that beading is just coming into its own
> so its use hasn't really been explored .... There must be more to know
> than that ....... oh, I guess that's what David's workshop will cover.
> Now I really wish I could be there ..... wish in one hand and spit in
> the other ... see which fills up first.
>
> Joyce
> In the Mojave
>
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Joyce Lee on sun 2 jul 00
Thank you, thank you. Turns out I have TWO of those creatures purchased
through an ad in CM sometime ago. I thought of them as "banding sticks"
and didn't intuit even for a moment that they could be used to make
those other wonderful marks that I'm always trying to figure out how to
make..... on David's work AND on Craig Martell's incredibly gorgeous
plates!! I KNOW that isn't the only reason their work looks so
scrumptious ... but it's a beginning! I've been trying to emulate Robert
Santerre's fluted work, too, and of course mine doesn't look like his
because I'm not Robert ... but I have definitely produced some better
looking pots by using his as a starting point... some that, along with
my shinos, I don't want to sell. Read something yesterday about making
cutouts in thin cardboard which when pressed against the clay results in
a raised shape .... here I've been carving AROUND the shape I wanted...
not the same effect at all... I DO love texture! And, David, I think
it's fine to start with trying to duplicate the presenter's work ...
somebody told me that you know you're a potter when you see an
intriguing pot and, instead of wanting to purchase it, you want to rush
to the studio and re-create it ... ??
Joyce
In the Mojave going in to town for groceries at 6 a.m. along with half
of the valley ... going while it's still cool.....
Dannon Rhudy on sun 2 jul 00
Toni, the easiest way to make a beading rib is to take a wooden rib
you already have - you'll likely find you have numerous duplicates
for one reason or another - and file a hole or holes on the edge in
an appropriate place. Use a round file, and you can make the
notch or notches whatever size you wish, with whatever spacing
pleases you. Another simple way is to find some scraps of shaped
molding/trim, cut them off at the appropriate angle for your purposes,
and just use those. They're already shaped, no? Such ribs can be used
on any shape of clay, including plates/platters, if you support the
beading on the opposite side with fingers or tools.
regards
Dannon Rhudy
At 10:44 AM 07/02/2000 +0200, you wrote:
>On 1 Jul 2000, at 16:32, Joyce Lee wrote:
>Hey Joyce
>A beading rib is what I would give my eye teeth to be able to make!
>It is a rib with a (usually) rounded notch cut out of it. So, when it is
>used, clay fills that negative space and you get this lovely even
>raised bit all aroung your pot, very often at or near the lip. Nice
>finishing touch.
>Now, how do I make that little notch even to make lovely beading
>round a plate??????
>Toni M in South Africa where it is winter and I hope summer is still
>far away or that I could have several Springs in a row, but as Joyce
>says spitting in the hand is far more likely to fill it than wishes : (
>
>> > We'll be making beading ribs out of Plexiglas scraps,
>> >
>>
>> What is a beading rib?
>
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OWLPOTTER@AOL.COM on sun 2 jul 00
A beading rib can be made out of any stiff, thin-edged material. I have
successfully made them out of old credit cards, small pieces of scrap metal,
old wooden kidneys formerly used for throwing and smoothing, etc.
Just decide what you want the profile of the bead on your pot to look like,
then notch the material with the complementary contour. This can be done
with a fine toothed saw or even a file, and of course, smooth the contour
with fine sand paper.
My favorites are made from old credit cards, they are stiff enough to not
wobble when pressed up against the pot, waterproof and last just about
forever!
Carolynn Palmer, Somerset Center, Michigan
Larry Phillips on sun 2 jul 00
africaunusual@MWEB.CO.ZA wrote:
> Now, how do I make that little notch even to make lovely beading
> round a plate??????
What are your usual ribs made from?
Metal: Mark profile with felt-tip pen
File with various shapes of file
Wood: Filing as above
Carve with knife,
Sandpaper, perhaps stuck to a shaped dowel
Burning with woodburning tool
Plastic: All the above, plus:
Heat an object with the desired profile
Press it onto the edge
Trim the excess bulges
As a quick test, try using an expired credit card. You can work these
with paper punches, heat, knife, files, and so on. They are quick and
easy to make, and best of all, free.
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Liz Gowen on sun 2 jul 00
snip from Toni
A beading rib is what I would give my eye teeth to be able to make!
The beading ribs I make are made with old credit cards, a hand held
hole punch, and scissors. I find the flimsier cards better like
those sent from insurance co. etc to try to get your business but
the others will work. With the scissors cut a slight angle if you
want the top of a pot to flair. Below this with the hole punch,
punch out 1 or 2 holes
( only 1/2 to 3/4 of the diameter on the card) Trim the edges of
the hole so the bead will not have an undercut. For the bottom of
the pot I use the other side of the card and make 2 holes ( again
1/2 to 3/4 of the hole on the card, and trim. Make this as high up
on the card as you want it on the pot so you can have it against the
bat and keep the height of the bead level.
Once made hold it against the thrown pot on the turning wheel
and the bead will gradually form. ( one hand pressing from inside
against card ) Many possible bead arrangements.
Have fun /
Liz Gowen /
)
l
l
k.smead on sun 2 jul 00
to all those in search for beading ribs...
well.... i thought i would put my two cents in about beading ribs... i =
have a number of them.... james watkins uses a
popsicle stick that he files the tip with a round file and that works =
for him.... jepson's beading rib i use and it
is good... but i really like my pink eraser ...the one with the slanted =
ends... i use either a pencil or a round file and rub the slanted
ends of the large erasers until a pattern in established.... this is my =
favorite and you can make them big or small...whatever you=20
imagine...
and the other thing i really like is joyce's posts....having been off =
the list for nearly a year, reading joyce again was like
"coming home"... thank you joyce..*s*
katie
klay@pcola.gulf.net
living along the gulf of mexico, filled with gratitude for my love of =
clay, my love of clay, and my 25 year old 13' daysailer surrounded
by playful dolphins...
Bob Hanlin on sun 2 jul 00
I have taken a small file and an old expired credit card and made some good
beading ribs that I use on the lower end of thrown forms. It creates a
visually attractive termination point and also serves as a glaze catcher.
I just used a small round file and made three grooves, biggest one at the
bottom and getting smaller as they go up. Neat and a good use for credit
cards. Or maybe you don't use them...use those magentic hotel keys then.
Bob H.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Liz Gowen"
To:
Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2000 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: Beading Ribs
> snip from Toni
>
> A beading rib is what I would give my eye teeth to be able to make!
>
>
>
> The beading ribs I make are made with old credit cards, a hand held
> hole punch, and scissors. I find the flimsier cards better like
> those sent from insurance co. etc to try to get your business but
> the others will work. With the scissors cut a slight angle if you
> want the top of a pot to flair. Below this with the hole punch,
> punch out 1 or 2 holes
> ( only 1/2 to 3/4 of the diameter on the card) Trim the edges of
> the hole so the bead will not have an undercut. For the bottom of
> the pot I use the other side of the card and make 2 holes ( again
> 1/2 to 3/4 of the hole on the card, and trim. Make this as high up
> on the card as you want it on the pot so you can have it against the
> bat and keep the height of the bead level.
> Once made hold it against the thrown pot on the turning wheel
> and the bead will gradually form. ( one hand pressing from inside
> against card ) Many possible bead arrangements.
> Have fun /
> Liz Gowen /
> )
> l
> l
>
>
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Janet Kaiser on mon 3 jul 00
The English language is a funny animal. I was going to
say that 'it takes the biscuit" but that would lead to
another discussion on the differences between US and
English English...
Beading... What do you imagine? Little pearly, wooden
or glass blobs with holes trough the middle? Well
wrong!! In this case it is another word for moulding.
Picture frames are made of beading... Beading is just
the long lengths of wood with the same profile. They
originally had carved or moulded beads along the
length. It also applies to the pre-manufactured wooden
moulding you see as architraves and dados in old
houses. You know, the fancy bit in the angle between
the wall and the ceiling? Also the "wall saver" at
chair height? Well they are also beading... It is a
common misconception to think they are all made of
plaster. Many are wood made to look like plaster.
Anyway, I digress!
A beading rib is therefore the mechanical device which
is going to help you make a long length with a constant
and consistent profile. In the case of pots, this
"length" usually goes around the rim.
They are really simple to make. Just a piece of heavy
duty aluminium / aluminum cut to the shape you want.
Which is why David H. got thinking of used licence
plates...
Hammer and file so there are no cutting sharp or wavy
edges and away you go!
If you have access to fresh bamboo, before it gets
super hard, that really is lovely to hold. I expect
Perspex, an old credit card or other hardish plastic
would make a useful beading rib and not be quite as
dangerous as a metal tool.
Wood did not work for me, because it went all soggy,
soft and black when it got lost in the slops for a few
days. But I suppose a hardwood would be OK for the
purists and those who always find and clean up their
tools at the end of every session and never lose
anything, ever.... I believe such potters exist :-)
Janet Kaiser - Where something really exciting happened
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