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engobes vs.slips

updated thu 27 jul 00

 

Gerry Chichester on thu 20 jul 00


Tom - in all my readings I have never had the difference between those =
materials explained quite so succinctly! Thanks! But just a quick =
question to clear up something you said about the slip glazes..."if =
handled properly, they will give a glossy finish." What, exactly would =
be the way to handle them ... would they need to be only dipped, poured, =
brushed? Thanks again....Carly

Don Hoskisson on sat 22 jul 00


>From: Gerry Chichester, cgchi@GBIS.COM
>Reply-To: Ceramic Arts Discussion List, CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>
>Tom - in all my readings I have never had the difference between those
>materials explained quite so succinctly! Thanks! But just a quick
>question to clear up something you said about the slip glazes..."if
>handled properly, they will give a glossy finish." What, exactly would be
>the way to handle them ... would they need to be only dipped, poured,
>brushed? Thanks again....Carly

Not all slip glazes will have a glossy finish. A glaze that was used
at Utah State University consisted of a local clay with 10%
Zircopax added. The resulting cone 10 glaze was a matt yellow
green. They called it Hyrum Dam (after the clay location).

Don (in sunny Oregon)

Tom Buck on mon 24 jul 00


Don Hoskisson says his slip-glaze turns out to be matt, not glossy as is
the common finding. Yet, by adding the 10% Zircopax, you have converted a
simple slip glaze (by defintion clay only) into a "regular" glaze, no
longer definable as a slip glaze. Sure, this is nit-picking but I am
trying to lessen the confusions.
peace. tom b.
Tom Buck ) tel: 905-389-2339
(westend Lake Ontario, province of Ontario, Canada).
mailing address: 373 East 43rd Street,
Hamilton ON L8T 3E1 Canada

NLudd@AOL.COM on mon 24 jul 00


Tom Buck said

>Don Hoskisson says his slip-glaze turns out to be matt, not glossy as is
>the common finding. Yet, by adding the 10% Zircopax, you have converted a
>simple slip glaze (by defintion clay only) into a "regular" glaze, no
>longer definable as a slip glaze. Sure, this is nit-picking but I am
>trying to lessen the confusions.


My copy of Hamer's Dictionary defines slip-glaze, thus -
<< Vitrifying slip. A glaze that contains over 50 percent of clay and is
applied as a slip to the raw ware>>.


Ned

Don Hoskisson on tue 25 jul 00


>Reply-To: Ceramic Arts Discussion List, CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>
>Don Hoskisson says his slip-glaze turns out to be matt, not glossy as is
>the common finding. Yet, by adding the 10% Zircopax, you have converted a
>simple slip glaze (by defintion clay only) into a "regular" glaze, no
>longer definable as a slip glaze. Sure, this is nit-picking but I am
>trying to lessen the confusions.
> peace. tom b.
>Tom Buck )

I welcome the "nit-picking" by Tom. The addition
of Zircopax may well move the mix to the glaze side
of the definition. I dug a slip near the Hyrum Dam
slip location. I fired it on many pieces without additions.
It fired to a more apple green matt--not the yellow
green of the Hyrum Dam Glaze. Tom will this qualify
as a matt slip glaze?

Don (down the road from Craig in Oregon) Hoskisson