iandol on mon 24 jul 00
Dear Antoinette,
Possibly one of the best books about clay design, though old and =
considerably dated in its approach to style content, is by John B. =
Kenny. CERAMIC DESIGN. Chilton Books. 1963 ISBN 0-8019-0474-9 for the =
paperback.
However, to get to the heart of the matter I believe it is wise to =
search out books which are devoted to the general principles of design, =
going back as far as the Pedagogical Sketch Book of Paul Klee, who =
besides being a noted artist, was also a teacher at the Bauhaus. Edited =
by Walter Gropius and L. Moholy-Nagy. Published by Faber and Faber in =
1953.
Perhaps now that I have some idea about how to make a web presence it =
would be a good idea to design a course for potters and other ceramic =
practitioners which teaches the basic skills of designing and how to =
apply them to creating clay objects. Mind you, I doubt if there would be =
sufficient interest to justify the effort or the expense.
All the best,
Ivor Lewis. Had a great day in college learning how to make web pages.
Timakia@AOL.COM on tue 25 jul 00
Hi Ivor. You know, I think that very few potters that could not study
formally, could find it easy to design 3D. At first we have to struggle to
get the technical stuff under the knee and then we have to learn by trail and
error to design. Although I had many successes through out my career on art
as well as production levels, I dare not dare too much. It is simple to make
a repetitive design around a piece, but let me dare make something odd! I
often wish I can find someone that will be able to put personal taste aside
and give me true critique on design aspects. I feel that there is a blank
area for me and many others in ceramic that we have to try fill in. Please
consider that instruction! It will just give me the confidence that I feel I
need.
Antoinette.
Antoinette Badenhorst
PO Box 552
Saltillo,MS
38866
http://hometown.aol.com/timakia
Susan Fox Hirschmann on sun 30 jul 00
As a person that started with art classes when i was 6, and studied art in
college ay before i got into clay, my recommendation, to all is to take a
basic drawing class. It will help you, as it has me, conceptualize each
piece, from 2 d to 3 d,
and give you a better feeling and confidence in form.
just my 2 cents!
good luck
susan fox hirschmann
annandale, va
Joyce Lee on sun 30 jul 00
Ivor Wrote:
> Perhaps now that I have some idea about how to make a web presence it would be a good idea to design a course for potters and other ceramic practitioners which teaches the basic skills of designing and how to apply them to creating clay objects. Mind you, I doubt if there would be sufficient interest to justify the effort or the expense.
Count me in, Ivor ......
Joyce
In the Mojave
Veena Raghavan on mon 31 jul 00
I think it is a great idea, Ivor. I have come across many people, who are
really interested in being potters, but who feel they have no artistic
skills. They feel they can learn the techniques, but they feel they do not
know how to create. I have tried to convince them that this is not really
so that, although some people find it easier to be creative, everyone is
gifted with creativity. These people need more guidance, some way in which
to channel their abilities to create...some pointers as to where to start.
A course on line would be great for them.
Veena
Veena Raghavan
75124.2520@compuserve.com
Claynkaren@AOL.COM on thu 3 aug 00
When will the decision be made regarding design course? Is it truely going
to be available online? Would love more details, please
Karen
Earl Brunner on thu 3 aug 00
I'm venting:
This is a CLASSIC example of a post that should NOT go to
the list,
There is absolutely NOTHING here for anyone else but Ivor.
Not even enough of a reference to what MLL7777@AOL.COM is
responding to.
People, either send it directly to the person, or please
include enough of the post that you are responding to that
we know what the heck you are talking about.
If this was a true reply (hitting the reply button) there
should be a link number at the top to the previous post.
There isn't even that.
MLL7777@AOL.COM wrote:
>
> Ivor...
> count me in, too
>
> it would be a wonderful, wonderful thing!
> ML
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Les Crimp on thu 3 aug 00
Ivor -
Count me in, too!!!
Les Crimp in Nanoose Bay, B.C.
lcrimp@home.com
MLL7777@AOL.COM on thu 3 aug 00
Ivor...
count me in, too
it would be a wonderful, wonderful thing!
ML
Estrellita Ammirati on thu 3 aug 00
Ivor:
I would be most interested in some guidance in
learning how to "unleash" my creative potential
through design. I hope you are able to present it on
line for those of us who feel hopelessly lost in
getting beyond the technique of throwing. I often say
I can't draw a straight line with a ruler unless I
make the dots and connect them. How's that for the
insecurity of not being able to draw.
Estrellita
--- Joyce Lee wrote:
> Ivor Wrote:
>
> > Perhaps now that I have some idea about how to
> make a web presence it would be a good idea to
> design a course for potters and other ceramic
> practitioners which teaches the basic skills of
> designing and how to apply them to creating clay
> objects. Mind you, I doubt if there would be
> sufficient interest to justify the effort or the
> expense.
>
> Count me in, Ivor ......
>
> Joyce
> In the Mojave
>
>
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Timakia@AOL.COM on thu 3 aug 00
Estrelitta, as one that`s been told previously by an art teacher that I will
never become an artist, I want to encourage you to get the two books of Betty
Edwards on drawing. She explains why people cannot draw. It make so much
sense to me. I am sure there will be other good explanations as well, but
since I read the reason why some people believe they cannot draw, I started
testing things and what she says is confirmed. I promise you, you will
benefit by reading those books. She has examples of students that previously
drew little stick men for drawings and 3,4 months later you cannot believe
how their work changed. I do think though it takes a lot of determination and
exercise. The only real difference between me and you and people that can
draw is that they exercised drawing for a great part of their lives, while we
were intimidated to do so.
My mother made the most wonderful drawings, but never encouraged me to do so.
My daughter make the most wonderful drawings, but she grew up in my studio
and we encouraged her to draw since she first took a pencil in her hand.
Good luck.
Antoinette.
Antoinette Badenhorst
PO Box 552
Saltillo,MS
38866
http://hometown.aol.com/timakia
Sharon31 on fri 4 aug 00
Earl's letter brought me to read iandol's offer, sometime (sorry) I runaway
from long letters.
Where did I meat, the first time my ceramic theacher? Before knowing that
she was a ceramic teacher or that I would ever learn 'mud' ? She came , for
a year, once a week, 3 hours course, of painting and drawing! I know that
she learns more, around, however she is definitely a potter&ceramic
teacher.This offer to learn through the net woud be good for cyberceramics,
as it is hard to me to think, I would be able to develop myself in mud,
before learn in with a teacher, I tell you, go to any class, get the
feeling, do not make a scatch in America, scan it to australia and get the
answer tomorow, What you get from the teacher is what he thinks right
now! He might be wrong, but this is a living conversetion between a pencil,
you and your teacher, your friends in class!
It is so hot, now that the only ceramics I can do is CYBERLETTRS!
Ababi
sharon@shoval.org.il
http://www.israelceramics.org/main.asp?what=gallery
http://www.milkywayceramics.com/cgallery/asharon.htm
----- Original Message -----
From: Earl Brunner
To:
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 08:00
Subject: Re: Ceramic Design Books
> I'm venting:
> This is a CLASSIC example of a post that should NOT go to
> the list,
> There is absolutely NOTHING here for anyone else but Ivor.
> Not even enough of a reference to what MLL7777@AOL.COM is
> responding to.
> People, either send it directly to the person, or please
> include enough of the post that you are responding to that
> we know what the heck you are talking about.
> If this was a true reply (hitting the reply button) there
> should be a link number at the top to the previous post.
> There isn't even that.
>
> MLL7777@AOL.COM wrote:
> >
> > Ivor...
> > count me in, too
> >
> > it would be a wonderful, wonderful thing!
> > ML
> >
> >
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