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saggar firing in a woodstove?

updated fri 18 aug 00

 

Kelly on tue 15 aug 00


I've been making some little odd fertility goddess pendants and
anatomically correct people for love charms. they're cone 6 or 7
stoneware. I'd like to make them look more like artifacts than they
do, which has made me think about sawdust or pit firing; I've been
cruising the archives looking for ideas and info. My major problem is
a neighbor with "a nose problem" (ie: too high in the air or stuck
into my business.) They disapprove of my clothesline full of diapers,
and have recently sent the township after me for owning (horrors)
eight laying hens in the suburbs, so I can only imagine their
response to having a garbage can full of cow dung smouldering for a
day or two and wafting across their deck at cocktail hour.

I do, however, have a perfectly legal wood stove in my house, (the
kind with a cook top), and wonder if i couldn't do a dannon rhudy
style paper saggar and fire a handful of my little trinkets in there.
Or maybe just tuck them into the corners, in the ash and embers. In
winter the stove goes for days, cooling down only when we sleep. I
also heat my studio with a little pot bellied stove, another
perfectly legal way to belch smoke at the neighbors. What if I
wrapped some little mojo people in foil with some dog food or chicken
poop and stuck them in there? If anybody has tried this, I'd love to
learn from your experience before sailing into this project. There's
no hurry, actually, as in august in ohio the woodstove would drive us
right out of the house...

Thanks in advance for clayart wisdom... Kelly in Ohio, with a $300
electric bill, a loaded electric kiln and no grocery money...
"cabbage soup for dinner again kids, but look at the lovely bowls I'm
serving it in!"

Ann Brink on tue 15 aug 00


Hi Kelly---this will work- put them in when the stove is cold, they can heat
gradually. I did this with beads in the barbecue, used grasses and a little
salt, and some iron rich dirt (We were camping, so I improvised). The
aluminum foil burnt away - I would use heavier foil next time. They came
out smoky looking, like they'd been in a campfire.

Good luck,
Ann Brink in CA
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Subject: saggar firing in a woodstove?
What if I
> wrapped some little mojo people in foil with some dog food or chicken
> poop and stuck them in there? If anybody has tried this, I'd love to
> learn from your experience before sailing into this project.
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Shelley Corwin on tue 15 aug 00


put the little people, anything small as about 1" thick max, directly into
the coals after warming up on a piece of tin or a can. the combo or air and
carbon makes them more interesting. or, directly on the grate of a gas
barbie. no bisque needed, just a slow start.

Carolyn Nygren Curran on tue 15 aug 00


This thread called to mind my first "raku" firing...a small bottle form
with borax and clay and copper carb glaze tucked in fireplace along with
logs. That was more than 20 years ago, and the glaze is still vivid.
Beginner's luck, although I can't recall exactly how I did it. I do know I
let it cool in the fireplace without any post firing reduction and that
there were interesting flashes of red and lustre along with green. Good
luck with your experiments. CNC

ferenc jakab on wed 16 aug 00


> I do, however, have a perfectly legal wood stove in my house, (the
> kind with a cook top), and wonder if i couldn't do a dannon rhudy
> style paper saggar and fire a handful of my little trinkets in there.
> Or maybe just tuck them into the corners, in the ash and embers. In
> winter the stove goes for days, cooling down only when we sleep. I
> also heat my studio with a little pot bellied stove, another

Kelly,
Years ago we had one of those enamelled wood heaters with the mica windows.
Its rate of burning was controlled by a sliding panel at the bottom where
the ash collected. On a few occasions I used this as a sort of pit firing
for things the kids made. I threw in some Draino, which is a form of sodium
hypochlorite that you put in a sink to unblock it. we got lovely flashes of
salt-like glazing. greens greys and blues. I imagine that for trinket type
objects with a raku clay body this would work well. I use to pre heat them
in the oven til the water was boiled off.

Feri.

amy parker on wed 16 aug 00


Kelly - I have successfully fired some tiny things in the fireplace in the
past. I put them into an aluminum chicken-pot-pie pan so that I could find
them again after the fire cooled down. Much of the pie pan burned up, but
enough remained that I could find the 3/4 inch pieces. They were greenware
& some made it to full bisque temps, according to their color change. There
was interesting flashing, even as small as they were. If it ever gets cold
again here I plan to try it again with bigger pieces.

Amy in Too-Hot-Lanta

>I do, however, have a perfectly legal wood stove in my house, (the
>kind with a cook top), and wonder if i couldn't do a dannon rhudy
>style paper saggar and fire a handful of my little trinkets in there.
>Or maybe just tuck them into the corners, in the ash and embers.
Amy Parker
Lithonia, GA

Dannon Rhudy on wed 16 aug 00


.....>put the little people, anything small as about 1" thick max, directly
into
>the coals after warming up on a piece of tin or a can.....

I must not have been following this thread, but lord that
made me LAUGH....what an image!

regards

Dannon Rhudy

Carolyn Nygren Curran on wed 16 aug 00


I do wonder about Drano being used inside... hypochlorite sounds like
chlorine gas liberation, but perhaps Monona or someone else who knows will
reply to the posting. When in doubt as to safety, don't......cnc

Steve Mills on thu 17 aug 00


A very simple and effective fireplace (maybe woodstove or better still
barbecue) kiln can be made as follows: you need a pottery flowerpot and
a pottery roof tile or their equivalent. Warm up the tile, the pot and
the pieces to be fired, and when the fire has died back to embers, put
the tile on it, the pieces on the tile, cover with the flowerpot, and
then heap coals/charcoal/lump wood around the whole thing, sit back and
watch. You'll get red heat fairly quickly. Used to do this in the
fireplace at home at the end of the evening, and then come down and
collect our fired pieces next morning. I expect reduction substances
could be introduced via the hole in the bottom of the flowerpot etc.
It's fun anyway. Kids love it. We did.

Steve
Bath
UK


In message , Kelly writes
>I've been making some little odd fertility goddess pendants and
>anatomically correct people for love charms. they're cone 6 or 7
>stoneware. I'd like to make them look more like artifacts than they
>do, which has made me think about sawdust or pit firing

--
Steve Mills
Bath
UK