Millie Carpenter on fri 1 sep 00
my love of tools goes way back, my father was a graphic artist
specializing in displays in late 40's and silk screening in the 50.
Rather than pay a baby sitter, I went in with my parents when my mother
needed to help out. 5 years old, I used to hammer nails. my big thrill
was when I was 8 or 9 and was allowed to stand on a box and use the
drill press to make swiss cheese out of old boards. my father would
give me a wood plane and I would spend time making excelcior (sp) for
packing. I loved to run water thru the air brush to clean it between
colors.
What really frosts me now is that If I am in a hardware store and the
clerk will start to tell me about how much my husband will love that
tool!!!
as for gift giving, I wanted a bench grinder for Chanukah last year. I
went and picked it out, charged it to hubby, put it in my car, when I
got home, I had him go out and get it out of my car so that he could
say that he went out and got it for me.
:-)
Millie in Md.
PS my daughter is training her boyfriends family right, he got the
barbequeing tools and she got a dremmel.
Millie Carpenter on sun 3 sep 00
I guess that I was using "dremmel" as a generic term. it is a mini drill smaller
than the cordless screwdrivers, you can get all kinds of neat bits that allow you
do do drilling, carving, buffing, grinding the odd glaze drip. I have a mini drill
press for mine and a friend has a mini router table. Mine is really an old foredom
flexi-shaft tool that looks for all the world like an old dentists drill from the
50's. I got it at a yard sale with the drill press, 30 or so bits, and a box of
jewelry making tools and about 2 pounds of sheet silver.
here is a site that shows what it looks like.
http://www.bowltech.com/tool/reviews/drem-multipro/dremmel.html
Millie in soggy Md
Martin Howard wrote:
>
>
> I have heard of this dremmel tool often on the list, but being English, have
> no idea what it is. I have not seen them in our stores.
> Can someone please clarify?
>
> Martin Howard, who has just had to saw apart a teapot from a mug! Would a
> dremmel have helped me?
>
> Webb's Cottage Pottery
> Woolpits Road, Great Saling
> BRAINTREE, Essex CM7 5DZ
> England
> martin@webbscottage.co.uk
>
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Martin Howard on sun 3 sep 00
I have heard of this dremmel tool often on the list, but being English, have
no idea what it is. I have not seen them in our stores.
Can someone please clarify?
Martin Howard, who has just had to saw apart a teapot from a mug! Would a
dremmel have helped me?
Webb's Cottage Pottery
Woolpits Road, Great Saling
BRAINTREE, Essex CM7 5DZ
England
martin@webbscottage.co.uk
Philip Poburka on mon 4 sep 00
Hello Martin,
A 'Dremmel' is a small (relatively) inexpensive high-speed arbor- or
spindle- about the size of a Flashlight ( or Torch, as it may be).
A not too distant 'cousin' , one might say, to a 'Dentist's Drill'.
Over here they run on 60 cyl A.C.- probably made for your Current as well.
Check 'Hobby Shops' or jewelry making Suppliers,
or even 'Tool Stores' I suppose...
The business end is a 1/16 th. inch collet( which is a type of 'chuck' -
holder-), accepting 1/16th.inch 'shank' Tungsten Carbide, hi-speed Steel, or
Carborundum 'burrs' or other 'bits' - also tiny saws, grinding stones,
sanding-discs, buffing wheels etc. Some accomodate an accessory 'base' of
sorts permitting them to be used something like a wood-workers electric
Router, or to be mounted on a bench like a tiny Bench-Grinder.
Also I believe they may be fitted with an accessory Flexible-Shaft, allowing
the moter/tool body to be hung on the wall, and the user, manipulating the
handle on the terminal end of the flex-shaft, which would have a similar
Collet for little Burrs and the like.
'Foredom' makes - or did make - a more robust tool of similar
characteristics - applications.
A bigger step up (depending on one's purposes) would be either Pnuematic or
Electric 'Die-Grinders', having ( over here at least) 1/8 th. inch, 1/4
inch, or 3/8 th. inch Collets, substantially more sturdy Bits, and a lot
more power.
If you have a healthy Air compressor, good used 1/4inch Collet pnuematic Die
Grinders, or (if ones 'politics' allow,)new, Contemporary 'Chinese'
versions,
can be had for less than a bottom-of-the-line 'Dremmel'.
Check with Machine-Shop Suppliers, and or Machinery wreckers,
used Machine-Shop-Supplies and the like...
Keep 'em oiled if you go pnuematic.
Good Luck,
Philip Poburka
Las Vegas, Nevada
------Original Message------
From: Martin Howard
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Sent: September 3, 2000 7:03:08 AM GMT
Subject: Re: mel and tools
I have heard of this dremmel tool often on the list, but being English, have
no idea what it is. I have not seen them in our stores.
Can someone please clarify?
Martin Howard, who has just had to saw apart a teapot from a mug! Would a
dremmel have helped me?
Webb's Cottage Pottery
Woolpits Road, Great Saling
BRAINTREE, Essex CM7 5DZ
England
martin@webbscottage.co.uk
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george koller on mon 4 sep 00
Philip, Martin
Just a fast note: Harbour Freight has a wonderful little light metal
pneumatic high speed "die grinder" for under $40.00 that can fit
in your hand like a bloated pencil. I use with our machine for months
at a time. Only bad thing I can think of is that they don't have much
torque, but more than enough for removing glazes and such. We use
diamond burrs/pins, and they will last a long time.
Also, just in case you are interested I purchasd their "pneumatic" filer
which I have found to be useful. It has a nice short stroke and really
"goes at" any kind of high spots. The thow must be about 3/8".
Someday I hope to use for texturizing on our machine.
Best,
George
PS No connection to Harbour freight. They are in archives, and not everybody
has had the good experience that I have. 1-800-423-3567, OR
haborfreight.com. They also have a pile of other die grinders, electric
or pnuematic & the attachements/tools (but low quality/cheap). The
little Central Pnuematic die grinder is of the highest quality - in my book.
Philip Poburka wrote:
> Hello Martin,
>
> A 'Dremmel' is a small (relatively) inexpensive high-speed arbor- or
> spindle- about the size of a Flashlight ( or Torch, as it may be).
> A not too distant 'cousin' , one might say, to a 'Dentist's Drill'.
> Over here they run on 60 cyl A.C.- probably made for your Current as well.
> Check 'Hobby Shops' or jewelry making Suppliers,
> or even 'Tool Stores' I suppose...
>
> The business end is a 1/16 th. inch collet( which is a type of 'chuck' -
> holder-), accepting 1/16th.inch 'shank' Tungsten Carbide, hi-speed Steel, or
> Carborundum 'burrs' or other 'bits' - also tiny saws, grinding stones,
> sanding-discs, buffing wheels etc. Some accomodate an accessory 'base' of
> sorts permitting them to be used something like a wood-workers electric
> Router, or to be mounted on a bench like a tiny Bench-Grinder.
>
> Also I believe they may be fitted with an accessory Flexible-Shaft, allowing
> the moter/tool body to be hung on the wall, and the user, manipulating the
> handle on the terminal end of the flex-shaft, which would have a similar
> Collet for little Burrs and the like.
>
> 'Foredom' makes - or did make - a more robust tool of similar
> characteristics - applications.
>
> A bigger step up (depending on one's purposes) would be either Pnuematic or
> Electric 'Die-Grinders', having ( over here at least) 1/8 th. inch, 1/4
> inch, or 3/8 th. inch Collets, substantially more sturdy Bits, and a lot
> more power.
>
> If you have a healthy Air compressor, good used 1/4inch Collet pnuematic Die
> Grinders, or (if ones 'politics' allow,)new, Contemporary 'Chinese'
> versions,
> can be had for less than a bottom-of-the-line 'Dremmel'.
> Check with Machine-Shop Suppliers, and or Machinery wreckers,
> used Machine-Shop-Supplies and the like...
>
> Keep 'em oiled if you go pnuematic.
>
> Good Luck,
> Philip Poburka
>
> Las Vegas, Nevada
>
> ------Original Message------
> From: Martin Howard
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Sent: September 3, 2000 7:03:08 AM GMT
> Subject: Re: mel and tools
>
>
>
> I have heard of this dremmel tool often on the list, but being English, have
> no idea what it is. I have not seen them in our stores.
> Can someone please clarify?
>
> Martin Howard, who has just had to saw apart a teapot from a mug! Would a
> dremmel have helped me?
>
> Webb's Cottage Pottery
> Woolpits Road, Great Saling
> BRAINTREE, Essex CM7 5DZ
> England
> martin@webbscottage.co.uk
>
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vince pitelka on mon 4 sep 00
> I have heard of this dremmel tool often on the list, but being English,
have
> no idea what it is. I have not seen them in our stores.
> Can someone please clarify?
Martin -
The Dremel is a nice little hobby tool, although not powerful enough to do
serious grinding or finishing. I have one I bought when I was in
high-school in the 60s, and aside from changing brushes several times it has
always worked perfectly for doing light-duty grinding and for a wide range
of detail work. The Dremel is essentially just a small light-duty electric
die-grinder, with interchangeable 1/8" and 3/32" collet chucks, to accept a
wide variety of 1/8" and 3/32" mounted stones, wire brushes, carving burrs,
etc. As is often the case, the older ones are much higher quality than the
newer ones.
If you want a grinder which can get in tighter spaces than the standard 4"
angle grinder, but can still do serious grinding, get a pneumatic die
grinder (if you have a good air-compressor), a good electric die-grinder
(Makita, Bosch, Ryobi, Dewalt, etc.), or a Foredom flexible-shaft tool, all
of which would be equipped with a 1/4" collet chuck to accept a broad range
of 1/4"-shaft-mounted stones, burrs, etc.
> Martin Howard, who has just had to saw apart a teapot from a mug! Would a
> dremmel have helped me?
No, it would not have helped. There is a nice pneumatic tool available from
the budget tool dealers, which is essentially just a 1/4" die-grinder fit
with a special chuck which accepts 4" by 1/16" fiberglass-reinforced cutoff
disks. This machine has a clear plastic guard to protect you while you are
using it, and under no circumstances should this guard ever be removed,
because those thin (1/16") disks are fragile, and if one gets damaged and
comes apart at 10,000 RPM the guard will save you serious injury. I have
used these tools for at least twenty years, and have never seen one of those
disks come apart, but 'tis better to be safe etc. Would it get into such
tight places (a teapot stuck to a mug)? Depends on the size of the vessels,
and where they are stuck together.
This tool is the cat's meow for cutting through thin steel sections like
butter, or for cutting off rusty nuts and bolts, cutting through the shackle
on a padlock (now why would we want to do that?), etc.
Any good pneumatic grinder (and most pneumatic tools) will really suck the
CFM, and will require a compressor of at least two horsepower.
Best wishes -
- Vince
Vince Pitelka
Home - vpitelka@dekalb.net
615/597-5376
Work - wpitelka@tntech.edu
615/597-6801 ext. 111, fax 615/597-6803
Appalachian Center for Crafts
Tennessee Technological University
1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
http://www.craftcenter.tntech.edu/
Steve Mills on mon 4 sep 00
Martin, Dremmels are definitely available on this side of the pond. I
bought one for my daughter when she went to do her Sculpture degree
(missed a first class honours by one percent, boy am I proud) I borrow
it occasionally, a beautiful fine tool for small work of all sorts.
Steve
Bath
UK
In message , Martin Howard writes
>
>
>I have heard of this dremmel tool often on the list, but being English, have
>no idea what it is. I have not seen them in our stores.
>Can someone please clarify?
>
>Martin Howard, who has just had to saw apart a teapot from a mug! Would a
>dremmel have helped me?
>
>Webb's Cottage Pottery
>Woolpits Road, Great Saling
>BRAINTREE, Essex CM7 5DZ
>England
>martin@webbscottage.co.uk
>
--
Steve Mills
Bath
UK
Ronan ORourke on thu 7 sep 00
> bought one for my daughter when she went to do her Sculpture degree
I borrow
> it occasionally, a beautiful fine tool for small work of all sorts.
>
> Steve
> Bath
> UK
the old 'buy something i want for a loved one as a present' trick.
brought my ex CDs i wanted for years, then she goes and leaves me taking all
the CDs with her, that will teach me.
ronan
worcestershire uk
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Mills"
To:
Sent: 04 September 2000 23:04
Subject: Re: [CLAYART] mel and tools
> Martin, Dremmels are definitely available on this side of the pond. I
> bought one for my daughter when she went to do her Sculpture degree
> (missed a first class honours by one percent, boy am I proud) I borrow
> it occasionally, a beautiful fine tool for small work of all sorts.
>
> Steve
> Bath
> UK
>
>
> In message , Martin Howard writes
> >
> >
> >I have heard of this dremmel tool often on the list, but being English,
have
> >no idea what it is. I have not seen them in our stores.
> >Can someone please clarify?
> >
> >Martin Howard, who has just had to saw apart a teapot from a mug! Would a
> >dremmel have helped me?
> >
> >Webb's Cottage Pottery
> >Woolpits Road, Great Saling
> >BRAINTREE, Essex CM7 5DZ
> >England
> >martin@webbscottage.co.uk
> >
>
> --
> Steve Mills
> Bath
> UK
>
>
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chrisclarke on thu 7 sep 00
What you need to do is make sure the stuff you buy is stuff she don't want!
I just bought my husband a brand new test kiln, yeah by the way, he's a computer
guy! "Oh, geeze hun, I thought you could use a test kiln, no, be a shame to send it
back, I'll just keep it, maybe I can use it."
>
>
> the old 'buy something i want for a loved one as a present' trick.
> brought my ex CDs i wanted for years, then she goes and leaves me taking all
> the CDs with her, that will teach me.
>
> ronan
> worcestershire uk
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Mills"
> To:
> Sent: 04 September 2000 23:04
> Subject: Re: [CLAYART] mel and tools
>
> > Martin, Dremmels are definitely available on this side of the pond. I
> > bought one for my daughter when she went to do her Sculpture degree
> > (missed a first class honours by one percent, boy am I proud) I borrow
> > it occasionally, a beautiful fine tool for small work of all sorts.
> >
> > Steve
> > Bath
> > UK
> >
> >
> > In message , Martin Howard writes
> > >
> > >
> > >I have heard of this dremmel tool often on the list, but being English,
> have
> > >no idea what it is. I have not seen them in our stores.
> > >Can someone please clarify?
> > >
> > >Martin Howard, who has just had to saw apart a teapot from a mug! Would a
> > >dremmel have helped me?
> > >
> > >Webb's Cottage Pottery
> > >Woolpits Road, Great Saling
> > >BRAINTREE, Essex CM7 5DZ
> > >England
> > >martin@webbscottage.co.uk
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Steve Mills
> > Bath
> > UK
> >
> >
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