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[mingei] quotes

updated wed 13 sep 00

 

David McDonald on tue 12 sep 00


Lee, and all,
I've always liked this one, from the back of Leach's book, "Hamada,
Potter";
"In just taking an apple from the tree, and eating the whole thing,
there are no mistakes to be made." Shoji Hamada.
This, to me, pretty much encompasses what Mingei is all about. We as
humans do what all creatures have the inclination to do; pick the food
apart, and only eat what we like. We do the same with other things too.
Subjects like Mingei for example. We want to disect all we see and pigeon
hole things into belonging, and not belonging. Seems natural enough.
The thing I like so much about Hamada's words here, is that it is such a
great metaphor for life. So what if we eat some seeds and worms, is there
not something to be said for a whole experience once in awhile? It is
only a mistake if we call it as such. It is only a mistake if we miss
what could have been learned.
I heard another one recently, author unknown to me;
"You can count the seeds in an apple, but you cannot count the apples in
a seed".

Looking forward to a long, and prosperous journey. David McDonald

> Here are a couple quotes I thought folks might enjoy (and to test
> and see if
> you made the trip to the list):
>
>
> "Stress upon individualism is totally unsatisfactory; on
> the other
> hand, where do we find beauty without individualism? Having no
> individuality and transcending it -- these are two issues we must
> not
> confuse."
>
>
>
> -- Yanagi
>
> "Painting is stronger than I am. It can make me do whatever
> it
> wants."
>
> --
> Pablo Picasso
>
> --
> Lee Love Ikiru@kami.com
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Dwiggins, Sandra (NCI) on tue 12 sep 00


David--
I sort of interpret this quote another way. I looked at it as the complete
naturalness of eating the whole thing. We don't pick it apart, and we don't
think about it. Eating the apple any way you want to eat it, you can't make
a mistake. Nothing is wrong because there is nothing wrong in the entire
naturalness of the event. Picking and eating is not a thoughtful
exercise...it's absolutely instinctive and thought-less. Something here
about making pots, I think.

Mingei is sort of like that. It is the naturalness, the humbleness, the fit
of the object and the function. It is not designed by a designer, it is
fabricated out of the thought of what is needed to fit the use to which it
is put. At least that is what my humble understanding of Mingei is from
reading that essay by what's his face.....

But, maybe I'm wrong....
Sandy

> -----Original Message-----
> From: David McDonald [SMTP:claydog@JUNO.COM]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 12:25 PM
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Subject: Re: [Mingei] Quotes
>
> Lee, and all,
> I've always liked this one, from the back of Leach's book,
> "Hamada,
> Potter";
> "In just taking an apple from the tree, and eating the whole thing,
> there are no mistakes to be made." Shoji Hamada.
> This, to me, pretty much encompasses what Mingei is all about. We
> as
> humans do what all creatures have the inclination to do; pick the food
> apart, and only eat what we like. We do the same with other things too.
> Subjects like Mingei for example. We want to disect all we see and pigeon
> hole things into belonging, and not belonging. Seems natural enough.
> The thing I like so much about Hamada's words here, is that it is
> such a
> great metaphor for life. So what if we eat some seeds and worms, is there
> not something to be said for a whole experience once in awhile? It is
> only a mistake if we call it as such. It is only a mistake if we miss
> what could have been learned.
> I heard another one recently, author unknown to me;
> "You can count the seeds in an apple, but you cannot count the apples in
> a seed".
>
> Looking forward to a long, and prosperous journey. David
> McDonald
>
> > Here are a couple quotes I thought folks might enjoy (and to test
> > and see if
> > you made the trip to the list):
> >
> >
> > "Stress upon individualism is totally unsatisfactory; on
> > the other
> > hand, where do we find beauty without individualism? Having no
> > individuality and transcending it -- these are two issues we must
> > not
> > confuse."
> >
> >
> >
> > -- Yanagi
> >
> > "Painting is stronger than I am. It can make me do whatever
> > it
> > wants."
> >
> > --
> > Pablo Picasso
> >
> > --
> > Lee Love Ikiru@kami.com
> > Let's talk about Mingei! Let's Talk about Craft!
> > Subscribe: mingei-subscribe@egroups.com
> > Or: http://www.egroups.com/group/mingei
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > mingei-unsubscribe@egroups.com
> >
> >
> >
>
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