Chris Clarke on sat 23 sep 00
Thanks, but eminent domain runs rampant and they want to place them over my
roof. I have two children and I won't live here if they do. The decision
comes down Oct. 1st and I can't do anything about it. The good of the many
out weighs the good of the few. And alas, I am the few.
chris clarke
Temecula, CA
chris@ccpots.com
www.ccpots.com
look again
----- Original Message -----
From: Janet Kaiser
To:
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2000 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: All chemicals (Mad Cow)
> Chris
>
> Apparently there was "no real evidence", but a
> study yet to be "officially accepted" (whatever
> that means) before publication was highlighted
> on BBC radio just yesterday here in the UK. It
> apparently has "proven" for the first time that
> there is a link between cancer and powerlines.
> Just that "they" have been looking at it wrong.
> Apparently they had only be looking at people
> under cables. This study took people down-wind
> into account. I do not remember the statistics,
> but it said 3,000 people per year were dying as
> a result. That is equivalent of all road deaths
> in the UK per year.
>
> The basic concept is that the electricity in
> power lines ionises (sp?) and polarises
> particles so that they are suspended in the
> atmosphere ready to be inhaled and ingested. The
> body absorbs them better in this state. Even
> allowing for smoking (cigarettes) there is now
> real evidence that power lines are not good for
> the health of those anywhere near them...
>
> Have a look at the BBC website
> http://www.bbc.co.uk go to Radio 4 and look for
> "Costing the Earth". It should be there. May
> help in your fight to resist having high voltage
> lines anywhere near you.
>
> Janet Kaiser
> The Chapel of Art . Capel Celfyddyd
> HOME OF THE INTERNATIONAL POTTERS' PATH
> Criccieth LL52 0EA, GB-Wales Tel: (01766) 523570
> E-mail: postbox@the-coa.org.uk
> WEBSITE: http://www.the-coa.org.uk
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > For years we've been hearing about those huge
> transmission power lines cause
> > leukemia and other illness, electricity
> dripping and such. Now that they
> > want to run them through my yard, all of a
> sudden "there's no real evidence"
> > that we are in any danger.
>
>
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Chris Clarke on sat 23 sep 00
I know this was about bone meal, bone ash and such, but I think we can
safely assume that every chemical we use in the studio is dangerous (even if
science hasn't informed us of it). They should all be treated with care.
Masks should be worn, floors should be mopped. Kilns need to be vented out
of the studio.
Who knows when it will be discovered that some common "safe" chemical we use
is causing some degenerative illness. We should not be so cavalier with our
use of some "inert" ingredients. Hell even ice cream can kill ya' if you
eat enough of it.
And just because the "Government" says we are safe does not mean it's so.
For years we've been hearing about those huge transmission power lines cause
leukemia and other illness, electricity dripping and such. Now that they
want to run them through my yard, all of a sudden "there's no real evidence"
that we are in any danger. Our government sometimes has their best
interest at heart not ours.
chris "might be movin' again for the seventh time" clarke
chris@ccpots.com
www.ccpots.com
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----- Original Message -----
From: Janet Kaiser
To:
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: "Bone-Ash" - and "Prions" (Mad Cow)
> Speaking from the UK where BSE has been
> devastating to the farming community and we have
> been fairly well informed (at least latterly), I
> have to voice a word of caution on this one.
>
> I am not an expert and have no data to support
> me, but a radio programme about a year ago
> focused on BSE and the symptoms in cattle in
> other countries officially not affected. There
> was some pretty convincing investigative
> journalism, which seemed to confirm that BSE (or
> at least the same symptoms going by another name
> I cannot remember) is prevalent in the many
> "non-infected" countries, including the US.
>
> It was apparently affecting those animals being
> produced in huge numbers in small areas. There
> was a lot of under-cover interviewing and
> several people said they did not want to be
> named because they did not want to lose their
> jobs...
>
> When the symptoms were first seen in the UK,
> everyone was told not to panic and there was no
> cause for concern. Now we know better, but have
> other countries and administrations learned the
> lesson? From what that BBC radio report
> unearthed, I would definitely not be surprised
> if it was one of those grey areas where "they"
> are covering up or at least not making certain
> data public knowledge. Beef production in the US
> is very big business and where the big boys
> are... Well, who knows what interests are
> involved and accommodated?
>
> It is not my intention to scare-monger. I am
> sure the authorities are reasonably in control
> and have the public health interests, rather
> than big business at heart, BUT I would not be
> too complacent. Just because you have not heard
> of it, does not mean that there is not a risk.
> They may be right when they say the symptoms
> just look like BSE but it is a totally unrelated
> condition and not dangerous to other animals,
> including man.
>
> I would be very careful using any bone-meal
> products. Be aware of the risks that could be
> involved and take every precaution when handling
> any animal by-products. Don't panic, but do not
> presume anything is safe until proved otherwise.
> At least always use a mask and gloves when
> handling bone-meal and wash your hands
> thoroughly after glazing. Little precautions can
> go a long way to preventing any chance of
> infection from all sorts of conditions.
>
> Janet Kaiser
> The Chapel of Art . Capel Celfyddyd
> HOME OF THE INTERNATIONAL POTTERS' PATH
> Criccieth LL52 0EA, GB-Wales Tel: (01766) 523570
> E-mail: postbox@the-coa.org.uk
> WEBSITE: http://www.the-coa.org.uk
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> > To the best of my knowledge there has never
> been a documented case of "mad cow" disease in
> the US bovine population.
>
>
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Janet Kaiser on sun 24 sep 00
Chris
Apparently there was "no real evidence", but a
study yet to be "officially accepted" (whatever
that means) before publication was highlighted
on BBC radio just yesterday here in the UK. It
apparently has "proven" for the first time that
there is a link between cancer and powerlines.
Just that "they" have been looking at it wrong.
Apparently they had only be looking at people
under cables. This study took people down-wind
into account. I do not remember the statistics,
but it said 3,000 people per year were dying as
a result. That is equivalent of all road deaths
in the UK per year.
The basic concept is that the electricity in
power lines ionises (sp?) and polarises
particles so that they are suspended in the
atmosphere ready to be inhaled and ingested. The
body absorbs them better in this state. Even
allowing for smoking (cigarettes) there is now
real evidence that power lines are not good for
the health of those anywhere near them...
Have a look at the BBC website
http://www.bbc.co.uk go to Radio 4 and look for
"Costing the Earth". It should be there. May
help in your fight to resist having high voltage
lines anywhere near you.
Janet Kaiser
The Chapel of Art . Capel Celfyddyd
HOME OF THE INTERNATIONAL POTTERS' PATH
Criccieth LL52 0EA, GB-Wales Tel: (01766) 523570
E-mail: postbox@the-coa.org.uk
WEBSITE: http://www.the-coa.org.uk
----- Original Message -----
> For years we've been hearing about those huge
transmission power lines cause
> leukemia and other illness, electricity
dripping and such. Now that they
> want to run them through my yard, all of a
sudden "there's no real evidence"
> that we are in any danger.
Martin Howard on mon 25 sep 00
One answer to new and old power lines which are now shown to be able to
cause cancer is to group together and take the power line company to court
for causing actual cancer and threatening to cause future cancers and for
ignoring warnings over the years and ignoring the current findings. In short
they are acting irresponsibly.
Of course, some concentrated letters and group discussions might cause them
to think again, but there is probably a lot of cash already invested or in
the pipe line (sorry, power line).
Many of us for years have 'known' that power lines have an effect on plants
and therefore on animals and humans. But the invested power re power has
refused to accept the evidence.
I know this thread if off-line, except if you are a potter affected by such
lines or thinking of buying a property under or downwind of existing or new
projected ones.
Martin Howard formerly Town Planning Officer and Consultant
Webb's Cottage Pottery
Woolpits Road, Great Saling
BRAINTREE, Essex CM7 5DZ
England
martin@webbscottage.co.uk
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