Bacia Edelman on thu 19 oct 00
Deborah: There is somebody on this list who works for Paragon.
A similar name to someone from U.K., so I am not offering it.
But you did not have a subject in the header. I thought the
Mayor was not going to place posts without subjects, but I am
sending this back to the list in case this Paragon guy is too busy
to open all posts. And mentioning Paragon
will catch his eye.
I would have suggested you have an electrician check the voltage to
your outlet, but it seems you have done this. Good luck to you.
Hope the Clayarter who works for Paragon can help you.
Bacia
At 07:43 AM 10/16/2000 -0400, you wrote:
>Hi fellow potters,
>
>I am new to clayart, but I have been eavesdropping for several weeks =
>now.
>I have learned more in these several weeks then I did in 4 years of
>college. But that was 30 years ago!! So thank you.
>
>But I desperately need your help. 3 years ago I purchase a SNF283
>Paragon kiln. Because I have been working fulltime to save my=20
>money to pot full time I only used the kiln several times. Out of=20
>ignorance I always thought it was suppose to take 20 hours to
>get my glazes to melt at cone 6. After going to a show this summer
>I found it should only take approx 6 hours!!. I have called and =
>corresponded
>with Paragon several time to no avail. Can someone please tell
>me how I can resolve this situation? I need a kiln that works.
>Quit obviously this kiln never has and never will. They sent me
>new elements several weeks ago. It worked once and then back to
>the same old thing. I know my wattage and voltage it ok because I have=20
>spent hundreds of dollars double checking this.
>
>Does anyone have the same Paragon kiln I have that works to a cone 6?
>If they advertise that it can be fired to 2300 degrees shouldn't it? =
>And
>if it doesn't isn't this false advertising?
>
>I want to thank Cindy Strand for all of her help and support she has=20
>given me. But I need more help to resolve this problem. So thank
>you in advance.
>
>Sorry this is so long. But I am very frustrated.
>Deborah Olson
>
>___________________________________________________________________________
___
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Bacia Edelman Madison, Wisconsin
http://www.mypots.com/bacia.htm
http://www.silverhawk5.com/edelman/index.html
stolp pottery on thu 19 oct 00
THank Bacia-
I have been in contact with ARnold Howard several times.
I am getting close to resolving the problem.
I think the major let my post go by because I was a first time
user and goofed up :>)!!!
Thanks
----- Original Message -----
From: Bacia Edelman
To:
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 7:37 AM
Subject: Re: Deborah's Paragon kiln
> Deborah: There is somebody on this list who works for Paragon.
> A similar name to someone from U.K., so I am not offering it.
> But you did not have a subject in the header. I thought the
> Mayor was not going to place posts without subjects, but I am
> sending this back to the list in case this Paragon guy is too busy
> to open all posts. And mentioning Paragon
> will catch his eye.
> I would have suggested you have an electrician check the voltage to
> your outlet, but it seems you have done this. Good luck to you.
> Hope the Clayarter who works for Paragon can help you.
> Bacia
>
> At 07:43 AM 10/16/2000 -0400, you wrote:
> >Hi fellow potters,
> >
> >I am new to clayart, but I have been eavesdropping for several weeks =
> >now.
> >I have learned more in these several weeks then I did in 4 years of
> >college. But that was 30 years ago!! So thank you.
> >
> >But I desperately need your help. 3 years ago I purchase a SNF283
> >Paragon kiln. Because I have been working fulltime to save my=20
> >money to pot full time I only used the kiln several times. Out of=20
> >ignorance I always thought it was suppose to take 20 hours to
> >get my glazes to melt at cone 6. After going to a show this summer
> >I found it should only take approx 6 hours!!. I have called and =
> >corresponded
> >with Paragon several time to no avail. Can someone please tell
> >me how I can resolve this situation? I need a kiln that works.
> >Quit obviously this kiln never has and never will. They sent me
> >new elements several weeks ago. It worked once and then back to
> >the same old thing. I know my wattage and voltage it ok because I have=20
> >spent hundreds of dollars double checking this.
> >
> >Does anyone have the same Paragon kiln I have that works to a cone 6?
> >If they advertise that it can be fired to 2300 degrees shouldn't it? =
> >And
> >if it doesn't isn't this false advertising?
> >
> >I want to thank Cindy Strand for all of her help and support she has=20
> >given me. But I need more help to resolve this problem. So thank
> >you in advance.
> >
> >Sorry this is so long. But I am very frustrated.
> >Deborah Olson
> >
>
>___________________________________________________________________________
> ___
> >Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
> >
> >You may look at the archives for the list or change your subscription
> >settings from http://www.ceramics.org/clayart/
> >
> >Moderator of the list is Mel Jacobson who may be reached at
> melpots@pclink.com.
> >
>
>
>
> Bacia Edelman Madison, Wisconsin
> http://www.mypots.com/bacia.htm
> http://www.silverhawk5.com/edelman/index.html
>
>
____________________________________________________________________________
__
> Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
>
> You may look at the archives for the list or change your subscription
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>
> Moderator of the list is Mel Jacobson who may be reached at
melpots@pclink.com.
>
GSM_ENT on tue 31 oct 00
Hi Deborah!
The Paragon SnF 82 model kilns work with 2 different type switches. The top
one is an infinite control (stepless or cycling type) switch. The second one
is a timer or chronograph switch that works - counting time backwards - from
its original setting (as per instructions silk screened on the control
panel) until it gets to ON. Only at that time the elements controled by the
second element get power and get hot. The second switch will NOT make the
kiln fire hotter by placing the knob to a higher number, instead it will
take longer for those elements controlled by that switch to come ON.
There are some factors affecting the final temperature of the kiln:
1. On the lower right hand side of the control panel there is a small data
plate. It will tell the voltage that it was built to be used with. Your
receptacle voltage must meet the voltage of that data plate. Do you have 208
Volts or 240 Volts on the receptacle and is the kiln rated 208 or 240 volts?
2. The resistance of the heating elements can not exeed 10% of the original
one. However you said that you have installed new elements.
3. The second switch timer is activated by the power of the first switch on
top. If the second switch is bad then one half (50%) of the kiln elements
will never come on and get hot. Can you see if all elements get hot? For a
quick check lift the weight of the Kiln Sitter and push the plunger, gently
lower the weight as not to trip OFF the Kiln Sitter. Now place the top
switch knob pointing to HIGH or MAX and the second switch pointing to ON.
Wait around 10 to 15 minutes - all heating elements should heat up and get
red. If you see every other elements off there is a good chance that the
timer switch be bad.
4. The SnF-82-3 has no relays, therefore this can not be the problem.
5. Some export models require a lid switch. If the lid switch is bad then
the whole kiln does not fire at all; this does not seem to be the case.
6. The distance from the main power panel and the receptacle where the kiln
is plugged in should be under 40 feet and the required wire gauge used in
the installation of that receptacle. Your kiln manual has a table on page 3
showing all electrical requirements. The 240 Volt SnF-82-3 kiln is rated 30
AMPS but requires a 50 AMPS fuse. The wiring should be made with Copper wire
gauge 6, if under 40 feet from the power source. If the power source is
farther away then you should use a wire one gauge larger for every
additional 40 feet. For example if the kiln receptacle is 70 feet from the
power source (main braker box) then you should use Copper wire gauge 4 which
is a wider wire. The receptacle should be NEMA configuration 6-50R
Paragon kilns are built with quality materials and are very reliable. There
must be something we are missing on this picture.
MANUEL R A "TONY" DIAZ RODRIGUEZ
MAJ., US Army (Ret.)
Master Kiln Repair Technician
Multi-Factory Qualified - Senior instructor
Multi-Company Qualified Product Senior Educator
----- Original Message -----
From: Bacia Edelman
To:
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 3:37 AM
Subject: Re: Deborah's Paragon kiln
> Deborah: There is somebody on this list who works for Paragon.
> A similar name to someone from U.K., so I am not offering it.
> But you did not have a subject in the header. I thought the
> Mayor was not going to place posts without subjects, but I am
> sending this back to the list in case this Paragon guy is too busy
> to open all posts. And mentioning Paragon
> will catch his eye.
> I would have suggested you have an electrician check the voltage to
> your outlet, but it seems you have done this. Good luck to you.
> Hope the Clayarter who works for Paragon can help you.
> Bacia
>
> At 07:43 AM 10/16/2000 -0400, you wrote:
> >Hi fellow potters,
> >
> >I am new to clayart, but I have been eavesdropping for several weeks =
> >now.
> >I have learned more in these several weeks then I did in 4 years of
> >college. But that was 30 years ago!! So thank you.
> >
> >But I desperately need your help. 3 years ago I purchase a SNF283
> >Paragon kiln. Because I have been working fulltime to save my=20
> >money to pot full time I only used the kiln several times. Out of=20
> >ignorance I always thought it was suppose to take 20 hours to
> >get my glazes to melt at cone 6. After going to a show this summer
> >I found it should only take approx 6 hours!!. I have called and =
> >corresponded
> >with Paragon several time to no avail. Can someone please tell
> >me how I can resolve this situation? I need a kiln that works.
> >Quit obviously this kiln never has and never will. They sent me
> >new elements several weeks ago. It worked once and then back to
> >the same old thing. I know my wattage and voltage it ok because I have=20
> >spent hundreds of dollars double checking this.
> >
> >Does anyone have the same Paragon kiln I have that works to a cone 6?
> >If they advertise that it can be fired to 2300 degrees shouldn't it? =
> >And
> >if it doesn't isn't this false advertising?
> >
> >I want to thank Cindy Strand for all of her help and support she has=20
> >given me. But I need more help to resolve this problem. So thank
> >you in advance.
> >
> >Sorry this is so long. But I am very frustrated.
> >Deborah Olson
> >
>
>___________________________________________________________________________
> ___
> >Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
> >
> >You may look at the archives for the list or change your subscription
> >settings from http://www.ceramics.org/clayart/
> >
> >Moderator of the list is Mel Jacobson who may be reached at
> melpots@pclink.com.
> >
>
>
>
> Bacia Edelman Madison, Wisconsin
> http://www.mypots.com/bacia.htm
> http://www.silverhawk5.com/edelman/index.html
>
>
____________________________________________________________________________
__
> Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
>
> You may look at the archives for the list or change your subscription
> settings from http://www.ceramics.org/clayart/
>
> Moderator of the list is Mel Jacobson who may be reached at
melpots@pclink.com.
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