artimater on fri 10 nov 00
Earl Earl Earl
I said nothing about grinding them to grog
I said I used them for mulch.
I have made pots that were not good for anything but mulch.
I doubt that I have ever had a pot around that was "unsafe", unless =
someone was trying to eat the mulch around my roses. =20
As for thinking of my pots as children, and having an emotional =
attachment: I have been a fulltime professional ARTIST for 35 years. I =
find your comments about getting past that stage to be kind of =
insulting, and a good example of what is wrong with the art biz in =
general(don't ask please). I will always have an attachment to my work; =
but then I don't stomp out the same dead pots day after day, year after =
year. I do one of a kind , original pieces,
Also having the shards of the ones that did not work (for whatever =
reason) around tends to remind me of old lessons I have learned.
I have become very attached to certain coffee cups only to have my =
kids or myself try to bouce them off the floor. While their usefulness =
as coffee cups after such an experience is wholly diminished their =
visual impact is hardly threatened and I can visit them in the garden =
and be reminded why I liked them so much in the first place. Also when =
I digging there in the spring I sometimes get a little " I'm Indiana =
Jones" kind of thrill.
I have yet to develope such a pile of shards that I could not =
spread them around the feet of the roses. Perhaps I have too many =
roses. Perhaps you don't have enough roses. Perhaps I'm a hopeless =
romantic, but that doesn't bother my very wonderful wife.......
So I remain wholly unconvinced that the best place for any of my =
efforts is the local landfill=20
artimator
"i only indulge when i've seen a snake, so i keep a supply of =
indulgences and snakes handy"
Well sure, you can grind them up into grog and still make
the material functional. Grog is good. But you didn't
answer the question. Have you ever had an otherwise
functional pot shiver? Because if you have then you have
worst than a second, you have an unsafe pot that could be a
serious hazard and it should be destroyed.
artimater wrote:
>
>> turns out fully functional. You have never had a glaze
>> craze on a food surface piece? You have never had a glaze
>> shiver? Handles have never cracked at the attachment joint?
>> No glaze crawling? No lids stick, no drips sticking to the
>> shelf, no chipped foot rims?
> Those dysfunctional pots become fully functional again when I toss =
them out in the rose garden where they make an excellant mulch (no =
foolin). Believe it or not, I have had several of those excellant mulch =
pots stolen...........
> artimator
Gayle Bair on sun 12 nov 00
Earl,
I confess, I was one of the those people
who went to extraordinary lengths to "rescue"
doomed pots.
Speaking from experience I think that you
will not convince anyone to stop trying to
resuscitate a dead pot until they personally realize
it is a waste of time. I think one of the reasons for
this attachment is directly related to being able to
consistently produce good pots.
I have gotten to the point where they don't even make it
off the wheel. I am developing a "feel" for the failures.
I extract a lesson from them by cutting them in half.
If at first I don't succeed... wedge, wedge and try again.
Of course if I have spent 5 hours on a teapot and I chip the
spout I will attempt a rescue. (By the way, it worked I filed it
a bit shorter)
Simply put, I think trying to rescue pots is part of the process.
Gayle Bair
Earl Wrote
Snip>
There are people (and I teach them all the time) that do
spend an inordinate amount of time trying to "rescue" pots
when they would be more productive just getting on with it.
Your post seemed to fit in that category. Sorry. What I
said stands for those who do have that problem.
artimater wrote:
>
> Earl Earl Earl
> I said nothing about grinding them to grog
> I said I used them for mulch.
> I have made pots that were not good for anything but mulch.
> I doubt that I have ever had a pot around that was "unsafe", unless
someone was trying to eat the mulch around my roses.
Earl Brunner on sun 12 nov 00
Arti Arti Arti
Sorry, didn't know I was talking to an artist. So you do
then turn them into shards. Fine. Then perhaps what we
have here is a failure to communicate. I thought you were
keeping the little darlings around and caressing them
regularly. Remember, that with out knowing the background of
who one is attempting to communicate with here, one can only
go by the words on the computer.
There are people (and I teach them all the time) that do
spend an inordinate amount of time trying to "rescue" pots
when they would be more productive just getting on with it.
Your post seemed to fit in that category. Sorry. What I
said stands for those who do have that problem.
artimater wrote:
>
> Earl Earl Earl
> I said nothing about grinding them to grog
> I said I used them for mulch.
> I have made pots that were not good for anything but mulch.
> I doubt that I have ever had a pot around that was "unsafe", unless someone was trying to eat the mulch around my roses.
> As for thinking of my pots as children, and having an emotional attachment: I have been a fulltime professional ARTIST for 35 years. I find your comments about getting past that stage to be kind of insulting, and a good example of what is wrong with the art biz in general(don't ask please). I will always have an attachment to my work; but then I don't stomp out the same dead pots day after day, year after year. I do one of a kind , original pieces,
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