Richard Jeffery on mon 13 nov 00
if squares are all salvaged, forget stoneware base and lay them as tiles on
man-made board base.... You might need to use something thick to prevent
warping from adhesive.
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Sent: 13 November 2000 18:48
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: HELP! Show on Friday and I need to finish this.
Ok I am desperate and need some answers...QUICK!
I have made a chess set and have done the board twice now with no success.
The first time I mushed it up because it was too big for my small kiln
(forgot about the fact that I live around the corner from our guild and
their BIG kilns ).
I just did another on the weekend and it was dry last night so when I went
to load it I picked it up and it fell apart in my hands. What I did was
this...
I am using mid cal 5 (a brown cone 6) and a cone 6 porcelain. I cut 2"
squares and laid them tightly beside each other to form the board. Then I
laid cone6 stoneware over the entire thing as a bottom. Dropped it a couple
of times to stick it all together (yes I scored and slipped before I added
the stoneware) and then trimmed the excess and left it covered loosely.
As I said it fell apart when I went to pick it up. It seems that each square
separated or they stuck together in blocks no bigger then 4 together.
My query is this. Is there a better and more successful way to do this? Can
I salvage the squares and use them again? I know this goes along the don't
waste time on useless pieces idea but I have to ask. =o)
Our Guild sale is this weekend and I could convievably do a glaze firing on
Thursday to unload it Friday (at the VERY latest) if I can find a technique
that works. I desperately want to have this chess set as my centre piece on
my table.
Thanks in advance for all ideas I know I will get.
------
Penni Stoddart of Penelope's Pots
President, Artisans London
LPG web site Manager
www.members.home.net/londonpotters
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Penni Stoddart on mon 13 nov 00
Ok I am desperate and need some answers...QUICK!
I have made a chess set and have done the board twice now with no =
success. The first time I mushed it up because it was too big for my =
small kiln (forgot about the fact that I live around the corner from our =
guild and their BIG kilns ).
I just did another on the weekend and it was dry last night so when I =
went to load it I picked it up and it fell apart in my hands. What I did =
was this...
I am using mid cal 5 (a brown cone 6) and a cone 6 porcelain. I cut 2" =
squares and laid them tightly beside each other to form the board. Then =
I laid cone6 stoneware over the entire thing as a bottom. Dropped it a =
couple of times to stick it all together (yes I scored and slipped =
before I added the stoneware) and then trimmed the excess and left it =
covered loosely.
As I said it fell apart when I went to pick it up. It seems that each =
square separated or they stuck together in blocks no bigger then 4 =
together.
My query is this. Is there a better and more successful way to do this? =
Can I salvage the squares and use them again? I know this goes along =
the don't waste time on useless pieces idea but I have to ask. =3Do)
Our Guild sale is this weekend and I could convievably do a glaze firing =
on Thursday to unload it Friday (at the VERY latest) if I can find a =
technique that works. I desperately want to have this chess set as my =
centre piece on my table.
Thanks in advance for all ideas I know I will get.
------
Penni Stoddart of Penelope's Pots
President, Artisans London
LPG web site Manager
www.members.home.net/londonpotters
Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.
Fredrick Paget on mon 13 nov 00
Fire the pieces and stick them together with epoxy glue afterward.
Fred
>Ok I am desperate and need some answers...QUICK!
>From Fred Paget, Marin County, California, USA
Liz Gowen on mon 13 nov 00
What about using masking tape and taping off some porcelain and
using iron oxide to make the dark color. I think the stoneware and
porcelain you used are not compatible( diff shrink rates?). Also
joined clay usually takes a slower drying time than stained and you
sound like time is of the essence, this round.
Liz Gowen
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From: "Penni Stoddart"
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Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 1:48 PM
Subject: HELP! Show on Friday and I need to finish this.
Ok I am desperate and need some answers...QUICK!
I have made a chess set and have done the board twice now with no
success. The first time I mushed it up because it was too big for my
small kiln (forgot about the fact that I live around the corner from
our guild and their BIG kilns ).
I just did another on the weekend and it was dry last night so when
I went to load it I picked it up and it fell apart in my hands. What
I did was this...
I am using mid cal 5 (a brown cone 6) and a cone 6 porcelain. I cut
2" squares and laid them tightly beside each other to form the
board. Then I laid cone6 stoneware over the entire thing as a
bottom. Dropped it a couple of times to stick it all together (yes I
scored and slipped before I added the stoneware) and then trimmed
the excess and left it covered loosely.
As I said it fell apart when I went to pick it up. It seems that
each square separated or they stuck together in blocks no bigger
then 4 together.
My query is this. Is there a better and more successful way to do
this? Can I salvage the squares and use them again? I know this
goes along the don't waste time on useless pieces idea but I have to
ask. =o)
Our Guild sale is this weekend and I could convievably do a glaze
firing on Thursday to unload it Friday (at the VERY latest) if I can
find a technique that works. I desperately want to have this chess
set as my centre piece on my table.
Thanks in advance for all ideas I know I will get.
------
Penni Stoddart of Penelope's Pots
President, Artisans London
LPG web site Manager
www.members.home.net/londonpotters
Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.
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Snail Scott on mon 13 nov 00
Penni-
Personally, I would treat this like a tile project. Make your colored
squares and glaze them separately. Do the backer in clay if you must,
but a high-quality plywood would be less breakable for the customer
(and for you!) Stain it nicely and put the good side down, then attach
your fired squares with tile mastic or epoxy. (Epoxy IS my friend!) You
should fill any chinks in the edges with wood dough then paint the
edges, or use edge veneer (which is designed for that very purpose).
You could even surround the entire board with a thin strip of stained
or painted wood. Mitered corners would be attractive but unnecessary.
Sometimes we get so invlved in clay that perhaps we should step back a
moment and ask ourselves "is this the best medium for my idea?"
Often, another material is just the thing to pull it together.
-Snail
At 01:48 PM 11/13/00 -0500, you wrote:
>Ok I am desperate and need some answers...QUICK!
>I have made a chess set and have done the board twice now with no success.
The first time I mushed it up because it was too big for my small kiln
(forgot about the fact that I live around the corner from our guild and
their BIG kilns ).
>I just did another on the weekend and it was dry last night so when I went
to load it I picked it up and it fell apart in my hands. What I did was
this...
>I am using mid cal 5 (a brown cone 6) and a cone 6 porcelain. I cut 2"
squares and laid them tightly beside each other to form the board. Then I
laid cone6 stoneware over the entire thing as a bottom. Dropped it a couple
of times to stick it all together (yes I scored and slipped before I added
the stoneware) and then trimmed the excess and left it covered loosely.
>As I said it fell apart when I went to pick it up. It seems that each
square separated or they stuck together in blocks no bigger then 4 together.
>My query is this. Is there a better and more successful way to do this?
Can I salvage the squares and use them again? I know this goes along the
don't waste time on useless pieces idea but I have to ask. =o)
>Our Guild sale is this weekend and I could convievably do a glaze firing
on Thursday to unload it Friday (at the VERY latest) if I can find a
technique that works. I desperately want to have this chess set as my
centre piece on my table.
>Thanks in advance for all ideas I know I will get.
>------
>Penni Stoddart of Penelope's Pots
>President, Artisans London
>LPG web site Manager
>www.members.home.net/londonpotters
Katy Franz on mon 13 nov 00
Use a wooden chess board?
....or make the tiles (1/2" thick) separately and adhere and grout them to a
3/4" sealed plywood base. Don't forget the edge treatment: either edge tiles
or a wooden frame. If you miter, miter well. A box joint is better than a
bad miter. But I'm afraid this process would take more than a week.
....or use one thick slab and delineate the grid squares with contrasting
glazes. However, it would have to be dried slowly.
Good Luck,
Katy Franz
http://www.artmath.com/katy/ceramics.html
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ceramic Arts Discussion List [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG]On
> Behalf Of Penni Stoddart
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 10:48 AM
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Subject: HELP! Show on Friday and I need to finish this.
>
>
> Ok I am desperate and need some answers...QUICK!
> I have made a chess set and have done the board twice now with no
> success.
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> My query is this. Is there a better and more successful way to do
> this? Can I salvage the squares and use them again? I know this
> goes along the don't waste time on useless pieces idea but I have
> to ask. =o)
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> ------
> Penni Stoddart of Penelope's Pots
> President, Artisans London
> LPG web site Manager
> www.members.home.net/londonpotters
>
> Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.
Tjo62@AOL.COM on tue 14 nov 00
This won't save you in time for this weekend, but next time you have
something that is that fragile when dry, let it dry on the kiln shelf you
will be firing it on. Then just lower the kiln shelf into the kiln when
loading. TJ
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