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a kiln with no exposed elements ->

updated tue 21 nov 00

 

Anji Henderson on fri 17 nov 00


Someone once asked about a kiln that they found at a
swap meet or something like that .. If I remember
correctly they said that it looked like a space ship??
or maybe it is my wild imagination thinking that they
said that .. What ever ; )

I have recently acquired these really old "popular
Ceramics" mag's (People just give me stuff.. I don't
argue I either use it or pass it on to someone that
needs.) Ok I am going to try real hard to stay on
track now ; o ..

There is an ad for a "Nova" kiln... There perks say

* Rapid and even firing
* Energy savings - up to 50% - over fire brick
* longer element life - no exposed coils
* Fast even firing - no crazing/cracking (how can they
gaurente that?? )
* Double wall exterior - safe to touch while firing

And the ad has a bunch more stuff on it and pictures
of five models.. If anyone (expecially the originator
of that past post) wants a scan of this I can send it
to them...

The post was over 6 months ago and I am actually
thinking it was maybe closer to a year..

Anji


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michael wendt on sat 18 nov 00


Boy do I want to see anything you have on this hidden element kiln. I have
been working on a design like the one you mention for nearly 20 years off
and on and sure would like to know if I am following in someone's footsteps.
Never a new idea
(
Thanks ,
Michael Wendt wendtpot@lewiston.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Anji Henderson
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Date: Saturday, November 18, 2000 7:14 AM
Subject: A kiln with no exposed elements ->


>Someone once asked about a kiln that they found at a
>swap meet or something like that .. If I remember
>correctly they said that it looked like a space ship??
>or maybe it is my wild imagination thinking that they
>said that .. What ever ; )
>
>I have recently acquired these really old "popular
>Ceramics" mag's (People just give me stuff.. I don't
>argue I either use it or pass it on to someone that
>needs.) Ok I am going to try real hard to stay on
>track now ; o ..
>
>There is an ad for a "Nova" kiln... There perks say
>
>* Rapid and even firing
>* Energy savings - up to 50% - over fire brick
>* longer element life - no exposed coils
>* Fast even firing - no crazing/cracking (how can they
>gaurente that?? )
>* Double wall exterior - safe to touch while firing
>
>And the ad has a bunch more stuff on it and pictures
>of five models.. If anyone (expecially the originator
>of that past post) wants a scan of this I can send it
>to them...
>
>The post was over 6 months ago and I am actually
>thinking it was maybe closer to a year..
>
>Anji
>
>
>=====
>Good art does not have to match your sofa!!
>
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vince pitelka on sun 19 nov 00


Duncan has made some kilns with hidden elements. The kilns are fiber, and
the elements are just inside the inner wall, so that the wall itself seems
to glow when the elements come up to temperature. Seems to me that the
elements would get even hotter, insulated within the wall, and I would think
that would shorten their life. Up in North Dakota I purchased a small one
of these kilns almost new at a flea market for 50 bucks. I did a few small
bisque-firings in it, but when I moved to Tennessee I gave it to one of my
students.
Best wishes -
- Vince

Vince Pitelka
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Michelle Lowe on sun 19 nov 00


I saw some slides of a workshop in Italy where the e-kilns were designed
with no exposed elements (soft brick facade on the inside)...they were able
to reduce in the kilns with no deterioration to the elements.

I wondered why those hadn't been built over here, but never got a good answer.

>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Anji Henderson
>>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>>Date: Saturday, November 18, 2000 7:14 AM
>>Subject: A kiln with no exposed elements ->
>>
>>
>>>Someone once asked about a kiln that they found at a
>>>swap meet or something like that .. If I remember
>>>correctly they said that it looked like a space ship??
>>>or maybe it is my wild imagination thinking that they
>>>said that .. What ever ; )
>>>
>
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Snail Scott on sun 19 nov 00


Sounds like a muffle-type design. These were popular way back,
but rare now. Mainly because of inefficiency, I've heard.

-Snail


At 05:28 PM 11/18/00 -0800, you wrote:
>Boy do I want to see anything you have on this hidden element kiln. I have
>been working on a design like the one you mention for nearly 20 years off
>and on and sure would like to know if I am following in someone's footsteps.
>Never a new idea
>(
>Thanks ,
>Michael Wendt wendtpot@lewiston.com
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Anji Henderson
>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>Date: Saturday, November 18, 2000 7:14 AM
>Subject: A kiln with no exposed elements ->
>
>
>>Someone once asked about a kiln that they found at a
>>swap meet or something like that .. If I remember
>>correctly they said that it looked like a space ship??
>>or maybe it is my wild imagination thinking that they
>>said that .. What ever ; )
>>

Arnold Howard on mon 20 nov 00


You can do reduction firing in a conventional electric kiln with exposed
elements if you use a sagger to contain the reduction atmosphere. This will
not reduce the life of the elements.

Arnold Howard
Paragon

--- Michelle Lowe wrote:
> I saw some slides of a workshop in Italy where the e-kilns were designed
> with no exposed elements (soft brick facade on the inside)...they were able
> to reduce in the kilns with no deterioration to the elements.
>
> I wondered why those hadn't been built over here, but never got a good
> answer.
>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Anji Henderson
> >>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> >>Date: Saturday, November 18, 2000 7:14 AM
> >>Subject: A kiln with no exposed elements ->
> >>
> >>
> >>>Someone once asked about a kiln that they found at a
> >>>swap meet or something like that .. If I remember
> >>>correctly they said that it looked like a space ship??
> >>>or maybe it is my wild imagination thinking that they
> >>>said that .. What ever ; )
> >>>
> >
>
>___________________________________________________________________________
> ___
> >Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
> >
> >You may look at the archives for the list or change your subscription
> >settings from http://www.ceramics.org/clayart/
> >
> >Moderator of the list is Mel Jacobson who may be reached at
> melpots@pclink.com.
> >
> >
> Michelle Lowe, potter in the Phoenix desert \|/ |
> mishlowe@amug.org -O- | |
> mishy@desertdragonpottery.com /|\ | | |
> |_|_|
> http://www.desertdragonpottery.com ____ |
> http://www.amug.org/~mishlowe -\ /-----|-----
> ( )
> <__>
>
>
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Arnold Howard on mon 20 nov 00


The hidden element kilns were space-age looking and originally called the
Nova kiln. Duncan bought them out.

The embedded element design is fairly common in low-temperature applications
such as firing Art Clay Silver and glass. Paragon makes several four-sided
kilns of that type.

Arnold Howard
Paragon

--- Snail Scott wrote:
> Sounds like a muffle-type design. These were popular way back,
> but rare now. Mainly because of inefficiency, I've heard.
>
> -Snail
>
>
> At 05:28 PM 11/18/00 -0800, you wrote:
> >Boy do I want to see anything you have on this hidden element kiln. I have
> >been working on a design like the one you mention for nearly 20 years off
> >and on and sure would like to know if I am following in someone's
> footsteps.
> >Never a new idea
> >(
> >Thanks ,
> >Michael Wendt wendtpot@lewiston.com
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Anji Henderson
> >To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> >Date: Saturday, November 18, 2000 7:14 AM
> >Subject: A kiln with no exposed elements ->
> >
> >
> >>Someone once asked about a kiln that they found at a
> >>swap meet or something like that .. If I remember
> >>correctly they said that it looked like a space ship??
> >>or maybe it is my wild imagination thinking that they
> >>said that .. What ever ; )
> >>
>
>
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>
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melpots@pclink.com.


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