Cindy Strnad on wed 29 nov 00
Thanks, Michael.
I'll check into it. I don't think $8 is too much, considering the cost of
rolls of film with only a couple of usable images in the end. And thanks for
the URL. That's a definite possibility. I live kind of far out in the
country, so anything I can get done via the web is a real blessing.
Thanks again,
Cindy Strnad
Earthen Vessels Pottery
RR 1, Box 51
Custer, SD 57730
USA
earthenv@gwtc.net
http://www.earthenvesselssd.com
Cindy Strnad on wed 29 nov 00
Hi, Everyone.
I've been wondering . . . I like my digital camera so much, my poor old 35mm
is gathering too much dust. I'll have to give it a good work-out one of
these days. But it's just so cool to be able to adjust the lighting, buffer
the shine, re-do the background, and all before I have a picture printed.
And the prints turn out great, as long as I use the super high quality mode.
And I can see them immediately when I get home. The problem is, my digital
camera didn't come with slide film.
Is there anywhere I can upload digital photos and have them turned into
slides? I've found plenty of places eager to turn my digitals into prints,
but no one offering slides. I don't suppose there's a lot of call for that,
but someone must be able to do it.
Thanks for any help you can give,
Cindy Strnad
Earthen Vessels Pottery
RR 1, Box 51
Custer, SD 57730
USA
earthenv@gwtc.net
http://www.earthenvesselssd.com
Louis Katz on wed 29 nov 00
Hi Cindy,
I have done business for years with Meisel Imaging (formerly Meisel Photographic).
They do great slide duplicates with great prices. They also make posters, black
and white prints from color sources, you name it. They also have a digital lab and
can produce your slides. I would expect them to be quite expensive but I expect
them to be good quality.
1-800 ???????????
They also have a website somewhere.
Louis
Louis@nceca.net
Cindy Strnad wrote:
> Hi, Everyone.
>
> I've been wondering . . . I like my digital camera so much, my poor old 35mm
> is gathering too much dust. I'll have to give it a good work-out one of
> these days. But it's just so cool to be able to adjust the lighting, buffer
> the shine, re-do the background, and all before I have a picture printed.
> And the prints turn out great, as long as I use the super high quality mode.
> And I can see them immediately when I get home. The problem is, my digital
> camera didn't come with slide film.
>
> Is there anywhere I can upload digital photos and have them turned into
> slides? I've found plenty of places eager to turn my digitals into prints,
> but no one offering slides. I don't suppose there's a lot of call for that,
> but someone must be able to do it.
>
> Thanks for any help you can give,
>
> Cindy Strnad
> Earthen Vessels Pottery
> RR 1, Box 51
> Custer, SD 57730
> USA
> earthenv@gwtc.net
> http://www.earthenvesselssd.com
>
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Michael Sowers on wed 29 nov 00
We take the digital pictures to a local film processor/developer and have
them turned into slides, it is kind of spendy, about $8 (one day service) a
slide if I remember correctly. The nice thing is you can edit the picture
before the slide is made with decent imaging software. Had to do this
recently when a slide sent in for a show submission was lost and not
returned, we needed a slide of that piece for another show entry and did not
have another good slide but did have a very nice digital picture of the same
piece.
Call around to local in-house slide processors and see if they have the
equipment to do it for you. We live in Boise, Id (not a huge town) and can
get it done here.
You can also try http://www.slidemaker.com/
Michael Sowers
www.classiclines.org
www.classiclinespottery.com
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Subject: Slides from digital pics?
Hi, Everyone.
I've been wondering . . . I like my digital camera so much, my poor old 35mm
is gathering too much dust. I'll have to give it a good work-out one of
these days. But it's just so cool to be able to adjust the lighting, buffer
the shine, re-do the background, and all before I have a picture printed.
And the prints turn out great, as long as I use the super high quality mode.
And I can see them immediately when I get home. The problem is, my digital
camera didn't come with slide film.
Is there anywhere I can upload digital photos and have them turned into
slides? I've found plenty of places eager to turn my digitals into prints,
but no one offering slides. I don't suppose there's a lot of call for that,
but someone must be able to do it.
Thanks for any help you can give,
Cindy Strnad
Earthen Vessels Pottery
RR 1, Box 51
Custer, SD 57730
USA
earthenv@gwtc.net
http://www.earthenvesselssd.com
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Janet Kaiser on thu 30 nov 00
Dear Cindy.
This is just a thought... I have not tried it
out... BUT, there is a high quality clear
plastic foil which you can print onto using
laser printers for presentations, overhead
projectors, etc.
Why not try to print your images (in the right
format) onto that?
If that works, the foil withstands the intense
heat of a laser printer, so it should be OK for
slides for presentations etc. The only thing to
check is whether your printer will print onto
this clear foil? Or it you have a friend with a
printer that will? Or even a local outlet of
up-market printers who would do you a favour if
you smile sweetly?
A page of images with margins would then cost
very little to print.
You then need to frame them in slide mounts, but
that should not be a problem.
Hope this works!! Let me know if it does!
Janet Kaiser
The Chapel of Art . Capel Celfyddyd
HOME OF THE INTERNATIONAL POTTERS' PATH
Criccieth LL52 0EA, GB-Wales Tel: (01766) 523570
E-mail: postbox@the-coa.org.uk
WEBSITE: http://www.the-coa.org.uk
----- Original Message -----
From: Cindy Strnad
To:
Sent: 29 November 2000 16:30
Subject: Slides from digital pics?
> Hi, Everyone.
>
> I've been wondering . . . I like my digital
camera so much, my poor old 35mm
> is gathering too much dust. I'll have to give
it a good work-out one of
> these days. But it's just so cool to be able
to adjust the lighting, buffer
> the shine, re-do the background, and all
before I have a picture printed.
> And the prints turn out great, as long as I
use the super high quality mode.
> And I can see them immediately when I get
home. The problem is, my digital
> camera didn't come with slide film.
>
> Is there anywhere I can upload digital photos
and have them turned into
> slides? I've found plenty of places eager to
turn my digitals into prints,
> but no one offering slides. I don't suppose
there's a lot of call for that,
> but someone must be able to do it.
>
> Thanks for any help you can give,
>
> Cindy Strnad
> Earthen Vessels Pottery
Milton Markey on thu 30 nov 00
Cindy,
Here are two possibilities, which I know of. Both of these photo processing
companies have digital imaging laboratories. Note that I've not researched
this, so you might contact these professional photo processors about your
specific needs for digital services. Both companies are excellent.
Dale Laboratories:
www.dalelabs.com
Dale Laboratories, 2960 Simms Street, Hollywood, FL 33020-1579
(800) 327-1776
The New Lab
651 Bryant St
San Francisco, CA 94107
(415) 905-8555
Another idea might be to take a good print of your digital image, and
photograph it with your 35mm camera loaded with slide film. You'll need a
photo copying stand, to hold the camera in place, and clamp lights, to
illuminate the photo. Your local photo supply store might carry this
apparatus. Note that this technique works best with SLR cameras, with a
"normal" (~50mm) lens.
Best wishes!
Milton NakedClay@AOL.COM
Bruce Girrell on thu 30 nov 00
Cindy,
Any number of service bureaus can make slides from your digital files. Eight
bucks is probably a little high, but not too awful. That's what I pay for
each of my originals and I'm in a small town. In a large city you should be
able to get the work done for as little as $5/slide and you should be able
to find some big city service bureaus on the WWW.
Here are some other hopefully helpful hints:
1) Take the original picture with the highest resolution allowed by your
camera.
2) Calibrate your monitor prior to editing your image. The service bureau
has no idea what your intent was (even if your image is hanging, dimpled, or
pregnant) and writes the image exactly as you provide it. A good image
editing program will allow you to calibrate your monitor. Photoshop is the
most versatile image editing program, but it is expensive and the learning
curve can be steep for someone who is not going to do much photo editing.
Calibrate your monitor under the same conditions that will exist when you
edit your pictures. That is, don't calibrate with the room lights turned
down at night, then edit the next day with fluorescent lighting and sunlight
streaming through the windows.
3) Clean up your image using a good image editing program. Adjust
brightness, contrast, hue, saturation, etc. as necessary. The aim is to best
represent the actual appearance of your pot. That means that removing
speckles is OK, but removing glaze defects is not; altering the background
color might be OK, but altering the color of the glaze to something more
pleasing is not. This may sound obvious, but believe me, the temptation to
"fix" something will come up at some point. The final image must be a
faithful representation of your work.
4) Resize your image so that it is 1 inch by 1 1/2 inches or 24 mm by 36 mm.
At this size you want at least 1000 pixels per inch resolution. Your image
editing program should allow you to set the output resolution when resizing
an image. If you do not resize your image to this size (or at least to a
multiple of this size), the service bureau might clip your image when
writing it to the slide.
5) Apply an Unsharp Mask filter as your last operation prior to saving to
disk (though you might make one last check for speckles or other artifacts
after applying the U.M.). If you're worried about how strong of a filter to
apply, look at a strong edge at large scale (Photoshop provides a preview
image to help you). After applying the U.M. filter, you should not see
ghosting of the edge.
6) Ask the service bureau what they expect in digital media. Some accept Mac
format only, but most these days can accept Mac or PC format. Usually they
will specify a Zip disk or similar large capacity removable medium. Email is
not acceptable because the file size is just too large. You might find a
service bureau that will accept FTP, but you're still looking at a lot of
online time. Just save the image to disk and send it to them. Do NOT attempt
to save space by saving the file in JPEG format. JPEG compression is totally
unsuitable for high quality images. Usually the service bureau will want the
file saved as a TIFF file. Make sure that they send your disk back to you
with your slides.
7) Try to do as many images at one time as is practical in order to cut down
on shipping fees and to get the best prices from the service bureau. Also,
since you have taken the time to produce a quality photograph, you are
probably going to use the slides for jury submissions. You may as well order
a suitable number of duplicates to be made from each original.
8) When you get your slides from the service bureau examine them for
quality. There should be no scratches whatsoever on the film surface. The
image should appear exactly as you saw it on your monitor, except that there
may be a little color difference if you did not calibrate your monitor.
Inspect the dupes and ensure that the color matches the original.
Good luck,
Bruce "long as usual" Girrell
Candise Flippin on thu 30 nov 00
Michael,
I did this once and did not like the result. Maybe you could shed some
light on the way you do it.
What software do you use to edit the digital pictures?
What format (jpg, etc.) and resolution do you send?
Thanks, Candise
Ken Chin-Purcell on thu 30 nov 00
More on slides and digital pics,
The device is called a digital film recorder. Computer animation
companies, among others, use them to go from digital to film.
At the computer graphics lab I used to run we had one - it
made beautiful slides, much nicer than our printers.
Want to buy one? Here's a popular model:
http://www.lasergraphics.com/pages/plfrp.htm
Costs $5K though...
There are usually several photo "service bureaus" in any sizable
town that have a film recorder. Ask around... The tricky part is
often the file transfer. Several years ago it commonly cost several
dollars per slide, but things may have changed.
If you use jpeg files they should be at least 1MB in size
for the slide to look it's best.
-- Ken Chin-Purcell
----- Original Message -----
From:
To:
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 5:47 AM
Subject: Re: Slides from digital pics?
> Cindy,
>
> Here are two possibilities, which I know of...
>
> Dale Laboratories:
> www.dalelabs.com
> Dale Laboratories, 2960 Simms Street, Hollywood, FL 33020-1579
> (800) 327-1776
>
> The New Lab
> 651 Bryant St
> San Francisco, CA 94107
> (415) 905-8555
Marni Turkel on thu 30 nov 00
Cindy,
A good photo lab should be able to do it. If you don't have a photo lab or
custom processing center, check with a quality camera store. Around here
(Northern California) it is fairly easy to get it done. The lab that
processes my slides charges $12-$20 for a 35mm negative or transparency
(depending on the resolution) to output from your file. I'm sure if I
shopped around in some of the bigger cities nearby I could find it for less.
Originally I thought that was rather pricey, but have changed my mind. I
shoot only slides (don't have a digital) and find that it can be easier and
less expensive to scan a slide, clean it up in Photoshop and have it output
rather than going back and reshooting. In the case of a vase with a flower
arrangement or a planter with a plant no longer in bloom, it may be the
only reasonable way.
It can also be great in the case of a slide presentation where you want
text added or multiple images.
Marni
Marni Turkel
Stony Point Ceramic Design
2080 Llano Rd 1B
Santa Rosa, CA 95407
Pottery: 707-579-5567
Office: 707-579-9511
Fax: 707-579-1116
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