Marcia Selsor on sun 10 dec 00
I have a friend taking the MFA program. She must attend two weeks/years
I think. Then she must have local mentors who review her work on a
regular basis. She is very pleased with the program even though her
first critique in Vt. was brutal. She got over it.
Marcia
Jeremy/Bonnie Hellman wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> A while back someone posted a query on clayart about getting a fine arts
> degree from a distance. A
>
> friend recently mentioned to me that Vermont College in Montpelier, VT ( a
> college at Norwich University) has a distance learning program including an
> MFA in Visual Arts. I don't know that ceramics is included in this program,
> but the web site is:
> http://www.norwich.edu/vermontcollege/visart/admissions.html
>
> Is anyone familiar with the college or with their degree programs?
>
> My friend is NOT a ceramic artist (or a potter ).
>
> Bonnie
>
> Bonnie Hellman in Pittsburgh, PA
> mou10man@sgi.net
>
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Jeremy McLeod on sun 10 dec 00
Am I out of touch with the cost of Graduate Education, or what!
I just poked around the website for the Vermont College MFA in Visual Arts
and discovered that it's about $5500 per SEMESTER for tuition and fees
related only to Vermont College. What one would be paying the local
artist-mentor would be on top of that. This probably means that a
Masters degree would cost in excess of $30K... and this for a degree that might,
just might, end up needing a post-masters program to learn how to say,
"And do you want fries with that order?"
I'll climb down off my soap box now.
Thanks for letting me gasp in public.
Jeremy
Jeremy/Bonnie Hellman on sun 10 dec 00
Hi all,
A while back someone posted a query on clayart about getting a fine arts
degree from a distance. A
friend recently mentioned to me that Vermont College in Montpelier, VT ( a
college at Norwich University) has a distance learning program including an
MFA in Visual Arts. I don't know that ceramics is included in this program,
but the web site is:
http://www.norwich.edu/vermontcollege/visart/admissions.html
Is anyone familiar with the college or with their degree programs?
My friend is NOT a ceramic artist (or a potter ).
Bonnie
Bonnie Hellman in Pittsburgh, PA
mou10man@sgi.net
Snail Scott on sun 10 dec 00
At 02:32 PM 12/10/00 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>A while back someone posted a query on clayart about getting a fine arts
>degree from a distance. A
>
> friend recently mentioned to me that Vermont College in Montpelier, VT ( a
>college at Norwich University) has a distance learning program including an
>MFA in Visual Arts. I don't know that ceramics is included in this program,
>but the web site is:
>http://www.norwich.edu/vermontcollege/visart/admissions.html
>
>Is anyone familiar with the college or with their degree programs?
>
>My friend is NOT a ceramic artist (or a potter ).
>
>Bonnie
>
>Bonnie Hellman in Pittsburgh, PA
>mou10man@sgi.net
>
I once applied (and was accepted) to grad school at
several good colleges , but was unable to follow through
for fnancial reasons. I've regretted the lost opportunity
since then, so when I heard about the Vermont College
program, I looked into it.
The format is: you work with a professor-type who meets
with their approval, who lives near you and is willing to
act in this capacity. You work independently in your own
studio, in whatever discipline or medium you can find a
professor-type to supervise. How closely you work with
your chosen professor seems to be up to you, but they
report on your progress to the Vermont College folks. Then,
once a year, you do a multi-week residency there in Vermont.
This is a two-year program, rather than the usual three
for a MFA. It costs about the same per year as some of the
fancy schools that accepted me in their conventional programs,
but with those places I would have had studio space,
access to multiple faculty members and campus resources,
and interaction with other students. Since these are aspects
of the graduate process that I value, I feel that I would
get less from the Vermont College program. On the other
hand, my life is less 'portable' than when I was young and
single, and not relocating (and putting my career on hiatus
for three years) has a lot of appeal. It doesn't seem quite
like a diploma mill, but I suspect that would have a lot
to do with who your professor was.
I wonder if this degree has any credibility in the MFA/
academic milieu? Does anyone know? I'm a bit dubious. It may
techcically be a 'real MFA', and they say they're accredited,
but is it really an adequate substitute for the standard thing?
I'll only do grad school once (if ever), and I don't want just
the 'Cliff Notes' version. I haven't made up my mind entirely,
so any info would be welcome.
-Snail
L. P. Skeen on sun 10 dec 00
Bonnie,
VCA has a website. Their distance learning program requires 9 days on
campus in fall and 9 days in Spring; otherwise you work with a local mentor
and submit your work online. I have heard that the program is really good,
but have no personal information myself.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeremy/Bonnie Hellman
To:
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2000 2:32 PM
Subject: Vermont College MFA in Visual Arts
> Hi all,
>
> A while back someone posted a query on clayart about getting a fine arts
> degree from a distance. A
>
> friend recently mentioned to me that Vermont College in Montpelier, VT
a
> college at Norwich University) has a distance learning program including
an
> MFA in Visual Arts. I don't know that ceramics is included in this
program,
> but the web site is:
> http://www.norwich.edu/vermontcollege/visart/admissions.html
>
> Is anyone familiar with the college or with their degree programs?
>
> My friend is NOT a ceramic artist (or a potter ).
>
> Bonnie
>
> Bonnie Hellman in Pittsburgh, PA
> mou10man@sgi.net
>
>
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Jennifer F Boyer on mon 11 dec 00
Hi All,
I've known several people who went through the VT College
program and I've gone through a few of the student exhibits. It
didn't look TO ME like a "potter"(maker of functional stuff)
would be happy in that program. Sculptors would fit in better.
The shows are oriented towards art: painting, sculpture focusing
on the conceptual and cerebral. I can't imagine how a critique
session would handle a casserole with a good lid and nice
handles. IMO.
Jennifer, who was embarrassed by not "getting" some of the
pieces.
Jeremy/Bonnie Hellman wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> A while back someone posted a query on clayart about getting a fine arts
> degree from a distance. A
>
> friend recently mentioned to me that Vermont College in Montpelier, VT ( a
> college at Norwich University) has a distance learning program including an
> MFA in Visual Arts. I don't know that ceramics is included in this program,
> but the web site is:
> http://www.norwich.edu/vermontcollege/visart/admissions.html
>
> Is anyone familiar with the college or with their degree programs?
>
> My friend is NOT a ceramic artist (or a potter ).
>
> Bonnie
>
> Bonnie Hellman in Pittsburgh, PA
> mou10man@sgi.net
>
> ______________________________________________________________________________
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Milton Markey on tue 12 dec 00
Hi Bonnie!
I'm familiar with the Art Therapy program (M.A.) at Vermont College. I
understand it's one of the most thorough programs of its type. Many
well-known art therapists are graduates of VC's art therapy program. I'm
certain the MFA in Visual Arts is of the same caliber.
Those who are accepted to Vermont College's programs must attend sessions
during the summer, at the college, and then do course work related to their
intended field of study elsewhere. Usually a mentor (a former grad student,
or an approved professional in the field of study) in the student's local
area, is the "teacher," or mentor, for the VC student, during the rest of the
year.
That's what I know about this college. I wish you well.
Best wishes!
Milton NakedClay@AOL.COM
Saab9186@AOL.COM on sun 17 dec 00
My mother received her undergraduate degree in Liberal Arts from Vermont
College. It served her well. I looked into the MFA program but was having
second thoughts over the cost vs. the creditability of the degree.
toni
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