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sawdust with ammonia

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Earl Brunner on fri 15 dec 00


It would smell like h, e, double toothpicks!

Eric/Jennifer Koehler wrote:

> OK, don't be grossed out here... :)
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> I use a product for my cats called "Feline Pine", a pine sawdust product
> that is pelleted and turns back to sawdust when it gets wet (read:
> pissed on lol) Would this be acceptable to use in a pit firing/raku
> situation if I let the stuff dry out (obviously no poops included), or
> do you think there would be enough residual ammonia to make it an
> explosive situation?! Do you think any residual ammonia would make for
> cool colors or effects? Always looking for ways to recycle...
>
> J.
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Hannah on fri 15 dec 00


Hi, Jennifer-

You asked about the used cat litter/sawdust and if it would work in a =
sawdust firing. There was an article in Ceramics Monthly quite awhile =
back about a woman who got beautiful results in her saggar firings and =
she thought the magic ingredient was the coarse sawdust that had been =
used in a horse barn as bedding and no doubt had a good dose of ammonia. =
I don't have convenient access to used horse bedding, but - not to =
gross you out - I've thought about aging the sawdust myself! Let's try =
it!

Best wishes,
Hannah=20

Eric/Jennifer Koehler on fri 15 dec 00



OK, don't be grossed out here... :)


I use a product for my cats called "Feline Pine", a pine sawdust product that is pelleted and turns back to sawdust when it gets wet (read: pissed on lol)  Would this be acceptable to use in a pit firing/raku situation if I let the stuff dry out (obviously no poops included), or do you think there would be enough residual ammonia to make it an explosive situation?!  Do you think any residual ammonia would make for cool colors or effects?  Always looking for ways to recycle...


J.




 



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Marcia Selsor on sat 16 dec 00


Dear Jennifer,

It may smell but a while ago in Ceramics Monthly (1995?) there was an
article about a woman who sawdust fired with the added magic ingredient
being horse piss. She swore it was a magic ingredient. I tried it and
got some interesting patterned areas. Try it but stay uowind!
Let us know what happens.
Marcia in Montana

Earl Brunner wrote:
>
> It would smell like h, e, double toothpicks!
>
> Eric/Jennifer Koehler wrote:
>
> > OK, don't be grossed out here... :)
> >
> > I use a product for my cats called "Feline Pine", a pine sawdust product
> > that is pelleted and turns back to sawdust when it gets wet (read:
> > pissed on lol) Would this be acceptable to use in a pit firing/raku
> > situation if I let the stuff dry out (obviously no poops included), or
> > do you think there would be enough residual ammonia to make it an
> > explosive situation?! Do you think any residual ammonia would make for
> > cool colors or effects? Always looking for ways to recycle...
> >
> > J.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Isao & Don on sat 16 dec 00


At 21:49 12/15/00 -0800, you wrote:
>Hi, Jennifer-
>
>You asked about the used cat litter/sawdust and if it would work in a
sawdust firing. There was an article in Ceramics Monthly quite awhile
back about a woman who got beautiful results in her saggar firings and she
thought the magic ingredient was the coarse sawdust that had been used in a
horse barn as bedding and no doubt had a good dose of ammonia. I don't
have convenient access to used horse bedding, but - not to gross you out -
I've thought about aging the sawdust myself! Let's try it!
>
>Best wishes,
>Hannah
>
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melpots@pclink.com.
>

Hannah etal, A cautionary tale. once upon a time I removed the top
cover from an old kiln packed with Vermiculite. Distracted by a pne call,I
did not return until next morning when I replaced the cover and began firing.
Ohme,oh my. Long before the kiln reached cone 010, I
was driven from my lovely warm studio by the power of the stink of catshit.
Moral: Crap near the kiln at your own peril.
Don M.
Don & Isao Sanami Morrill
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Daniel Foscarini on sat 16 dec 00


The only time I get "blow-back" with my sawdust kiln is when I close the
lower vent to tight. So I "ASSUME" it would be the same for "wet-ammonia" if
there was enough, which I dought.

But as for......ummmmmm.....leaving the poop out.......well I put dried cow
pie in on occassion, nice effect, but donn't tell anyone...LOL

Dan


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>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>Subject: sawdust with ammonia
>Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 23:13:08 -0500
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Norman van der Sluys on sun 17 dec 00


Why not leave the poops in?

OK, don't be grossed out here... :)

I use a product for my cats called "Feline Pine", a pine sawdust product
that is pelleted and turns back to sawdust when it gets
wet (read: pissed on lol) Would this be acceptable to use in a pit
firing/raku situation if I let the stuff dry out (obviously no poops
included), or do you think there would be enough residual ammonia to make it
an explosive situation?! Do you think any
residual ammonia would make for cool colors or effects? Always looking for
ways to recycle...



Norm van der Sluys
By the shore of Lake Michigan

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Martin Howard on sun 17 dec 00


My current clear glaze has 20 percent cat litter in it.
It does have a certain aroma, but one can get used to it.
Incidentally, the used cat litter was handpicked for faeces, then dried on
top of the kiln, using the spare heat, and sieved through 100 and 120 lawns.
I would rather put up with a little aroma of that nature than use bought
glazes and not have any idea of the contents.

Martin Howard
Webb's Cottage Pottery
Woolpits Road, Great Saling
BRAINTREE, Essex CM7 5DZ
England
martin@webbscottage.co.uk