primalmommy@IVILLAGE.COM on tue 26 dec 00
I have a little christmas money, and have struck out at ebay. Anybody get new bats, and want to sell your old ones? Hopefully cheaper than the catalogs? email me at primalmommy@ivillage.com. I'd be happy to barter if I have anything you need, my barter page is at http://www.primalpotter.com
Thanks folks! Kelly in Ohio (where the grandparents have buried my children under piles of gifts, we start digging out tomorrow...)
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Donald G. Goldsobel on wed 27 dec 00
I have a couple of loose fitting bats and I put slip on the wheel and it
does the job
Donald
>
>Quick question . . .
>
>We own Plasti-bats and have found that their positioning holes have
"loosened up"
>over the past two years(and we only thrown a couple times a week)!
>
>I am now very close to "drilling new positioning holes." As they stand
now, when I
>am centering, I can feel and hear their movement.. My current "fix" is to
use
>tooth picks to take up the space.
>
>Have others had problems with their bat holes enlarging?
>
>Thanks for the feedback!
>
>Mike & Rose - Throwing In St. Louis~
>
>
>
>Ron Collins wrote:
>
>> ----- For my two cents, if it were me, I'd buy some new plastibats....I
love
>> mine-they never wear out, so it would be money well spent.
>>
>>
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Charles on wed 27 dec 00
The holes do eventually wear out..when they do I suggest mounting them the
old fashioned way...throw out a pad of clay on the wheel, make it about 1/4
to 1/2 and inch thick. get your fingers wet and put a few grooves in the
clay while spinning the wheel. Center the bat on the pad and press it down
with a couple of evenly spaced whacks. It always works .... no holes needed.
The clay will occasionally need rewetting, but you can throw all day on the
pad of clay.
-Charles
Visit my webpage...
http://www.thecreativeoasis.com/Hughes/hughes.html
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Haldiman
To:
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: anybody selling old bats?
> Ron, et all;
>
> Quick question . . .
>
> We own Plasti-bats and have found that their positioning holes have
"loosened up"
> over the past two years(and we only thrown a couple times a week)!
>
> I am now very close to "drilling new positioning holes." As they stand
now, when I
> am centering, I can feel and hear their movement.. My current "fix" is to
use
> tooth picks to take up the space.
>
> Have others had problems with their bat holes enlarging?
>
> Thanks for the feedback!
>
> Mike & Rose - Throwing In St. Louis~
>
>
>
> Ron Collins wrote:
>
> > ----- For my two cents, if it were me, I'd buy some new plastibats....I
love
> > mine-they never wear out, so it would be money well spent.
> >
> >
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Ron Collins on wed 27 dec 00
----- For my two cents, if it were me, I'd buy some new plastibats....I love
mine-they never wear out, so it would be money well spent.
Cindy Strnad on wed 27 dec 00
Hello, Mike.
The bat holes will enlarge on plastibats. Don't know if there's a
preventative, but the "cure" is sticky clay. It will keep your bats still,
and you happy.
Cindy Strnad
Earthen Vessels Pottery
RR 1, Box 51
Custer, SD 57730
USA
earthenv@gwtc.net
http://www.earthenvesselssd.com
Michael Haldiman on wed 27 dec 00
Ron, et all;
Quick question . . .
We own Plasti-bats and have found that their positioning holes have "loosened up"
over the past two years(and we only thrown a couple times a week)!
I am now very close to "drilling new positioning holes." As they stand now, when I
am centering, I can feel and hear their movement.. My current "fix" is to use
tooth picks to take up the space.
Have others had problems with their bat holes enlarging?
Thanks for the feedback!
Mike & Rose - Throwing In St. Louis~
Ron Collins wrote:
> ----- For my two cents, if it were me, I'd buy some new plastibats....I love
> mine-they never wear out, so it would be money well spent.
>
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J102551@AOL.COM on wed 27 dec 00
Go to Menards and in the back of the store they have a bargain bin of
countertop. You can get lots of it for a buck. Take it home and cut it up.
I just use a small hand held jig saw. I trace around my other bats and cut
away. Jeri in Hastings, MN
Isao & Don on wed 27 dec 00
At 21:01 12/26/00 -0800, you wrote:
>I have a little christmas money, and have struck out at ebay. Anybody get
new bats, and want to sell your old ones? Hopefully cheaper than the
catalogs? email me at primalmommy@ivillage.com. I'd be happy to barter if I
have anything you need, my barter page is at http://www.primalpotter.com
>
>Thanks folks! Kelly in Ohio (where the grandparents have buried my
children under piles of gifts, we start digging out tomorrow...)
>
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Alleyways and construction sites are strewn with plywood. A $2.00
saw will provide one with hundreds of bats in a very short time.
This is called, "The truly free market."
Isao & Don
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Charles Moore on wed 27 dec 00
Mike and Rose,
Yes, over the years I have had some bat holes that have lossened. I keep
some rather stiff clay handy by my wheel and fill the gap with the stiff
clay. Hope it works for you.
Alternative: drill new holes.
Charles
camoore@csus.edu
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Haldiman"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 9:14 AM
Subject: Re: anybody selling old bats?
> Ron, et all;
>
> Quick question . . .
>
> We own Plasti-bats and have found that their positioning holes have
"loosened up"
> over the past two years(and we only thrown a couple times a week)!
>
> I am now very close to "drilling new positioning holes." As they stand
now, when I
> am centering, I can feel and hear their movement.. My current "fix" is to
use
> tooth picks to take up the space.
>
> Have others had problems with their bat holes enlarging?
>
> Thanks for the feedback!
>
> Mike & Rose - Throwing In St. Louis~
>
>
>
> Ron Collins wrote:
>
> > ----- For my two cents, if it were me, I'd buy some new plastibats....I
love
> > mine-they never wear out, so it would be money well spent.
> >
> >
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>
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Jim Mason on wed 27 dec 00
In a message dated 12/27/00 1:34:22 PM Eastern Standard Time,
web1063t@GTE.NET writes:
> We own Plasti-bats and have found that their positioning holes have
> "loosened up"
> over the past two years (and we only thrown a couple times a week)!
>
Our Plasti-bat holes were loose when they were new! I have had pretty good
success with just forcing clay down into the extra space. If things don't get
really wet, the bat stays in place just fine.
Merry 3rd day of Christmas to all!
Jim Mason,
Gibsonville, NC
Dave Finkelnburg on wed 27 dec 00
Michael,
Do you ever try putting thick slip on the wheel head? I usually use
some throwing slip. The holes in the bats, wood or plastic, which I use,
wear because the bat pin is harder than the hole. A little slip on the
wheel head, then tap your fist down on the bat a few times and you should
have the bat held firmly in place and centered well for throwing. The only
problem with this method is you have to literally pry the bat off the wheel
head. It will be truly stuck!
Good potting!
Dave Finkelnburg, feeling fortunate I can set here reading ClayArt
and also watch magpies, Stellar's jays, scrub jays, juncos, mountain
chickadees, house finches, titmice, rufous-sided towhees, house sparrows,
robins and a song sparrow at the bird feeder and in the shrubbery.
From: Michael Haldiman
>We own Plasti-bats and have found that their positioning holes have
"loosened up"
>over the past two years(and we only thrown a couple times a week)!
>
>I am now very close to "drilling new positioning holes." As they stand
now, when I
>am centering, I can feel and hear their movement.. My current "fix" is to
use
>tooth picks to take up the space.
Billie Neal on thu 28 dec 00
It always works .... no holes needed.
The clay will occasionally need rewetting, but you can throw all day on the
pad of clay.
-Charles
Yes......as Charles said, the holes will eventually wear out so before that
even begins to happen, use little clay pats under the bat to reduce the load
on the hole/pin fit. Works like a charm and extends the fit of the holes.
Billie
Don Jones on thu 28 dec 00
HI,,
I know you guys get tired of hearing this but every once in a while I have
to toot this horn.
My advice: Forget the bats, throw on the wheel head. Except for large
plates and bowls and pieces you want to keep replacing on the wheel over
time, it works.
Don Jones
http://www.highfiber.com/~claysky
----------
>From: Charles
>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>Subject: Re: anybody selling old bats?
>Date: Wed, Dec 27, 2000, 7:04 PM
>
>The holes do eventually wear out..when they do I suggest mounting them the
>old fashioned way...throw out a pad of clay on the wheel, make it about 1/4
>to 1/2 and inch thick. get your fingers wet and put a few grooves in the
>clay while spinning the wheel. Center the bat on the pad and press it down
>with a couple of evenly spaced whacks. It always works .... no holes needed.
>The clay will occasionally need rewetting, but you can throw all day on the
>pad of clay.
>
>-Charles
>
>Visit my webpage...
>http://www.thecreativeoasis.com/Hughes/hughes.html
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Michael Haldiman
>To:
>Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 12:14 PM
>Subject: Re: anybody selling old bats?
>
>
>> Ron, et all;
>>
>> Quick question . . .
>>
>> We own Plasti-bats and have found that their positioning holes have
>"loosened up"
>> over the past two years(and we only thrown a couple times a week)!
>>
>> I am now very close to "drilling new positioning holes." As they stand
>now, when I
>> am centering, I can feel and hear their movement.. My current "fix" is to
>use
>> tooth picks to take up the space.
>>
>> Have others had problems with their bat holes enlarging?
>>
>> Thanks for the feedback!
>>
>> Mike & Rose - Throwing In St. Louis~
>>
>>
>>
>> Ron Collins wrote:
>>
>> > ----- For my two cents, if it were me, I'd buy some new plastibats....I
>love
>> > mine-they never wear out, so it would be money well spent.
>> >
>> >
>____________________________________________________________________________
>__
>> > Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
>> >
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>> >
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>melpots@pclink.com.
>>
>>
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>
Jan McQueary on thu 28 dec 00
A cheap source of small bats is 8" tiles. I prefer to use thin, smooth
glazed tiles - you can usually get them from Home Depot or from a tile
store very cheaply. I throw on the glazed sides. Get the ones with the
least texture on the back - easier to clean and less tippy. Buy them all
at the same time, from the same batch - all 8 inch tiles are not equal in
size.
I secure the tiles to a larger plastic bat by dropping them into a frame
made from strips of wood. The stuff you use to hold screen wire onto
porch framing works well. Cut the strips of wood to 7 or 6 1/2 inches
only - so you can get at the corners of the tiles to free them. If you
want to varnish the wood, do that first. Then glue the wood down with
silicon seal or epoxy.
To glue: Center a tile in the middle of the bat, just where you want it.
Put a heavy weight on it to hold it still. Put silicon seal on the wood
strips and glue them tightly against the tile. (You may lose this first
tile - sometimes I have to break them because the silicon glues them down
too.) If the strips are too tight, shave them a little bit with an
exacto knife. If they are too loose for some of the tiles use a little
bit of clay to help hold the tile in tight.
------------------
I used the sink-cut out bats for quite a while. I cut them on a band
saw. They are very nice and stiff for large heavy pots. The glue in the
composite board and the formica will wear out a bandsaw blade very
quickly. I found that I needed to varnish them well or they swelled and
degraded when wet - especially around the holes for the bat pins. (Of
course you can always drill new holes.) I was happy to scrap them when I
could afford some plastic bats.)
Jan McQueary
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Susan Otter on thu 28 dec 00
In a message dated 12/28/00 5:46:33 PM, claysky@HIGHFIBER.COM writes:
<< HI,,
I know you guys get tired of hearing this but every once in a while I have
to toot this horn.
My advice: Forget the bats, throw on the wheel head. >>
I think that's great for some people, but I like bats because unless the
piece is very large, the edge of the bat tends to protect from dings. Those
of us who use shared studio space have to think about that.
Now time for a rant:
We had some very bad weather here, and I couldn't get in to pick up the mug
cylinders I'd thrown until yesterday. Classes had been over for a week.
There were five porcelain cylinders for mugs on a long board, covered with
plastic, and with my name on tape *right down the center of the mugs.*
Brought it home, and opened them up to put handles on them.
Someone had taken a Sureform to the sides of one. Very nicely done, but not
what I had in mind at all. Another cylinder had some sort of metal pattern
imprinted into the cylinder side, all around.
Naturally, this person chose the best cylinders to experiment on.
There's no way the person didn't know they were working on someone else's
finished as it was clearly marked.
Grrr....
Steve Mills on fri 29 dec 00
I occasionally have customers who come in with loose wooden bats; I just
re-drill them and fill the old holes with waterproof filler.
Steve
In message , Donald G. Goldsobel writes
> I have a couple of loose fitting bats and I put slip on the wheel and it
>does the job
>
>Donald
>>
--
Steve Mills
Bath
UK
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