Jackie Richards on sun 31 dec 00
I am ready to get an airbrush setup and wondered what your input would be. I
checked archives but didn't see anything recent (perhaps missed the thread).
I have a paasche catalogue but that does not seem to jibe with some of the
designators in pottery catalogues. I do not need large capacity, but would
want easily changeable small jars to facilitate quick change of glaze. I
want an even sprayer because I need all the help I can get glazing! I saw a
compressor at Sam's Club the other day and I would assume that as long as you
have the couplings, any compressor will do if it has the power. It also had
storage tank which someone told me was good (what do I know). I would think
I would need a couple of different size heads since I would spray thick and
thin? Also should I be looking at another label, Bailey? for instance?
Thanks. Jackie in Tucson where the sun shines 350 days of the year.
Cindy Strnad on mon 1 jan 01
Hi, Jackie.
People on the list were kind enough to give me loads of advice on this very
subject earlier this year. You can find it in the archives (link at the
bottom of this, and every other, clayart letter).
I decided on a Paasch HS and am very pleased with it. I purchased it at
Dixie Art Supplies (I believe that's at http://www.dixieart.com ) and can
highly recommend the service and prices there as well. They ship free for
anything over $50, so order all the little jars and seals and things you're
going to want. Shipping them will cost you more than you like if you get
them later on.
I also have a larger Paasch sprayer which I purchased from my clay supplier.
I paid way more for it than I should have done. I don't think Dixie carries
them, but I know you can find them elsewhere on the web. You'll need this if
you mean to glaze any large areas at all. The air brush is a small volume
tool.
Cindy Strnad
Earthen Vessels Pottery
RR 1, Box 51
Custer, SD 57730
USA
earthenv@gwtc.net
http://www.earthenvesselssd.com
WHew536674@CS.COM on mon 1 jan 01
Jackie,
An air brush is great for doing detail work. I've used it to spray slips or
underglazes in small areas, but I wouldn't advise using an air brush for
applying glazes. Even with the largest size nozzle, it tends to clog up. If
you wanted even glaze application then a spray gun would work better, faster,
and not clog up as a rule. A small compressor is fine for a air brush, for a
spray gun a larger compressor would be required. I spray glaze at 34-40 psi,
so any compressor that can do that would work. Lots of info in the archives
on compressors, including safety issues.
Joyce A
Cantello Studios on tue 2 jan 01
The best spray gun out there to use is a gravity feed gun...that's the one
with the can on top of the gun the same gun that Tom Coleman has been using
for years. It really works like no other, once you try you'll never go back.
It will work with 22 psi. And this low pressure will help keep the glaze
from going all over. Chris P.S. I got mine from Harbor Freight.com
Paul Brinkmann on tue 2 jan 01
Jackie -- i would like to share some thoughts on my experience with air
brushes. the responses on net have been good . i have achieved good
results by using the Badger 350 (medium and heavy heads) and Badger 250-2,
which is a basic spray gun designed to handle heavy viscosity materials for
larger overall coverage. these two guns handle commercial underglazes very
well ( thined to milk like thickness and strained ) i have had good success
using duncans diamond clear and most all their under glazes. these guns and
not designed for "home made" glazes. they will hold either 1 or 2 ounce
bottles. some times you may need to spray two or three coats. the
compressor i use is a Badger Air Brush Co, model 80-1, oilless piston
compressor. for homemade glazes, i have had good results with my vacuum
cleaner, using the pint sized spray bottle, and attaching the hose to the
blower side of the machine. i use it mostly for spraying majolica base
glaze. works fine, but you need practice to get the right thickness on your
vessel. you also have to thin the glaze down a little when you put it in
your bottle. straining isnt as critical,but its always a good idea, as you
never know when theres some small particle that may clog your spray bottle.
Paul Brinkmann
What did one skunk say to the other skunk ? "Let us spray" !!!!!!
Aerni on wed 3 jan 01
Let me express my appreciation to Paul Brinkmann for his informative post on
the subject of glaze spraying. This subject has been discussed often and
tirelessly in clayart over the years, and while the discussion has been
good, and lots of excellent information has changed hands, there has always
been one aspect of the discussion which has bothered me. It usually comes
down to "this is the best sprayer for applying glazes"...which is like
saying, "this is the best brush for applying paints". There is just not one
absolute best answer for all cases (at least in my experience). It all
depends on what you are spraying and what effect you are trying to achieve.
I won't try to recap all of the possibilities, but I would suggest that it
would help if you refined the question next time, and were as specific as
possible. If you're just looking to spray occasional oxide accents, that
would be useful to know, just as it would be helpful to know if you're
looking to spray a base coating of glaze on 1000 square feet of tile per
day. The answer would most probably be different for those two situations.
Just my two cents, and sorry if I sound a bit on my high horse...
Richard Aerni
Bloomfield, NY
----- Original Message -----
> Jackie -- i would like to share some thoughts on my experience with air
> brushes. the responses on net have been good . i have achieved good
> results by using the Badger 350 (medium and heavy heads) and Badger 250-2,
> which is a basic spray gun designed to handle heavy viscosity materials
for
> larger overall coverage. these two guns handle commercial underglazes
very
> well ( thined to milk like thickness and strained ) i have had good
success
> using duncans diamond clear and most all their under glazes. these guns
and
> not designed for "home made" glazes. they will hold either 1 or 2 ounce
> bottles. some times you may need to spray two or three coats. the
> compressor i use is a Badger Air Brush Co, model 80-1, oilless piston
> compressor. for homemade glazes, i have had good results with my vacuum
> cleaner, using the pint sized spray bottle, and attaching the hose to the
> blower side of the machine. i use it mostly for spraying majolica base
> glaze. works fine, but you need practice to get the right thickness on
your
> vessel. you also have to thin the glaze down a little when you put it in
> your bottle. straining isnt as critical,but its always a good idea, as
you
> never know when theres some small particle that may clog your spray
bottle.
> Paul Brinkmann
>
> What did one skunk say to the other skunk ? "Let us spray" !!!!!!
>
>
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ILENE MAHLER on wed 3 jan 01
its'' NOLONGER AVAILABLE Where can I get one like it Ilene in Conn
Cantello Studios wrote:
>
> The best spray gun out there to use is a gravity feed gun...that's the one
> with the can on top of the gun the same gun that Tom Coleman has been using
> for years. It really works like no other, once you try you'll never go back.
> It will work with 22 psi. And this low pressure will help keep the glaze
> from going all over. Chris P.S. I got mine from Harbor Freight.com
>
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Les on mon 7 mar 05
Hi -=20
Does anyone know of a book that will give me instruction on spraying =
glazes on my pottery? I tried self-instruction but I am not getting =
what I want in terms of look, etc. TIA
Les Crimp in Nanoose Bay, B.C.
lcrimp@shaw.ca
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