will edwards on fri 29 dec 00
Hello,
Yes, I agree and I also respect your opinion. However since you were not =
the
one on the recieving end of the private e.mail it is hard to explain why =
I
made that statement.
I see this with your posts and others where things are constantly being
challenged. (Its deductive reasoning) This one could have easily been
diminished by looking through the archives. I also have spent my time, my=
money and my efforts to pass this information on without cost other than =
the
stand alone statement.
Your posts you put out must be important to you. (Mine are as well) I als=
o
have elected to lab test this and show results on various oxides. Lets ma=
ke
this much simpler than a bantering session.
You said - =
"It would be an almost impossible task to check every instance of materia=
ls
being used from this system. Those people who prefer to do their own prac=
tical
research will certainly make the same mixtures that you have if they sele=
ct
the same starting materials">>end
This is obvious if you were talking to someone who knows the field would =
it
not be? Why don't you just write what you want to and I will do the same=
and
I will reframe from sending you private e.mails detailing things that are=
basic but not classic. If this were so obvious it would have been handled=
already. (Most likely has??) Take heart and work toward something like
positive thinking and quit worrying over all the clayarters that decide t=
o
post something without knowing the background information.
Tony Hanson and Ron Roy and John Hessleherth have all done the very same =
thing
trying to post good glaze information and I see no sense in arguing over =
it at
all, and my contribution is as good as any!
I also spent 20 years in research and owned Excalib-Air arts Corperation =
and
am aware of the industrial standards in which a material is patented or n=
ot.
Also I am very aware of ACMI procedures and A.S.T.M. labeling as well and=
I am
certian that toxicology is of interest as well among new glaze compounder=
s. I
do thank you for this information. If it was intended to be set for a pat=
ent
or trade-mark it certainly wouldn't have been posted public. (Its not
patentable anyways) These are the kinds of letters that bug me the most. =
And
you talk about obvious.
Lets work toward a more positive role. If you read some of the letters th=
at I
got in response to the glaze you would see that they are those wishing fo=
r
more just like it. I don't believe you should decide that for them. Let t=
hem
have a chance to study the glaze, work it over, and trash it if they chos=
e.
(It came with its warning) Also which of those 6 you describe would be wi=
thin
the limits this one has and with such simplicity?
I see you are a smart man and I believe you would have been more consider=
ate
should you have known the full story of all the if's, why's and maybe's. =
It
was made simple on purpose. Like the 20X5 recipe. 1 less ingredient and i=
ts
not a monumental discovery, it was my way of reaching beyond the paramete=
rs of
a machine and giving to a community that has freely shared their ideas an=
d
recipes.
Those that lurk on clayart should be able to come out of hiding and let i=
t be
known what they want and when they expect to get it or dig through the
archived information. Too many people are ran off because it is much easi=
er
that way than to tackle someone who musters all the nano-verbiage possibl=
e to
finish the chemistry lessons for the day.
Molecular structure and atomic weights and other terms that I studied for=
many
years means ziltch to many people but yet they want to make a good glaze =
and
have a basic understanding of what they are doing. Thats all it is about.=
Fun,
Practicality and purpose. I will also apoligise for being very forward, b=
ut
why not? It happens often! Apparently it was my time...
William Edwards
Alchemy - Turning things into perspective or losing it.
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Dear Will Edwards,
I can understand you chagrin on being taken to task over the origins of a=
particular mixture which has the simple numbers 4,3,2,1. This is after al=
l
what many people will get when they start from a standard square blend 6*=
6
configuration where there are eight possible variations of those proporti=
ons
using the list of materials which are available to us.
It would be an almost impossible task to check every instance of material=
s
being used from this system. Those people who prefer to do their own prac=
tical
research will certainly make the same mixtures that you have if they sele=
ct
the same starting materials. Each is an independent discovery and should =
be
recognised as such. WE are not in the world of industrial or scientific
invention where precedents are registered as patents or published in Natu=
re.
I am sure the people who choose to use recipes you post to Clayart will
acknowledge their origin.
Best wishes for a healthy and prosperous New Year.
Ivor
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