Carol Sandberg on fri 12 jan 01
LLewellyn and Melinda:
Thanks for responding......I have not used the texturizer under a glaze yet,
just over. I did some tests on top of a clear glaze which I applied over
Amaco Velvet Underglazes. The results looked better over warm colors, but
I'm making that judgment based on small 2x3" test tiles. I'm sure the
results would vary depending on the glaze used and the application
thickness.. The effect of the Texturizer was to make the glaze surface
somewhat pearly or mottled.....I love the variation in color which
happens in Cone10 Reduction glazes, and the Texturizer takes the Cone 6
glazes I have used a baby step in that direction. So trying it over a clear
glaze on top of an underglaze was just another experiment to see what would
happen.
I'm hoping someone will have a suggestion about possible components in the
Texturizer. I'd like to mix up some tests using some Cone 6 clear glaze
recipes from Clayart , and then extend their possibilities as Texturizers
with the additions of rutile
and whatever else is needed.(an opacifier?) I'll let you know what happens
in my next batch of test tiles. Please let me know whatever happens for you.
Thanks!
Carol, in a still cold Indiana
LLewellyn Kouba wrote:
"I have also recently purchased some of the texturizers in the rutile base
but haven't gotten a chance to try them out yet. I originally thought they
were to be mixed into a glaze but also have a friend down the street who has
used them for years and as an 'under' she gets some very nice greens but has
been guarded as to exactly what colors she uses and the overglaze could be
any 'other' cone 6 glaze so the sky is the limit. "
Melinda Collins wrote:
"I have used Amaco texturizers for years, both high-6- and low-06-they make
both. In a neutral atmosphere, they don't work for my glazes...they will
sort of shrivel up over the glaze, or under it...but in ox., they do great
to add mottled texture..I havenot tried to make my own, having sort of a
life-time supply here with me...but it is worth the money..one jar goes a
long way, unless you do production work..I used to spray it, thinned, over
my c.6 glazes and it works very well. By itself,
over white stoneware, it makes a strong orange, which I find interesting
with a tenmoku at 04...I can more or less duplicate a wood-fired look with
oranges, blacks, whites, etc on one pot without a lot of time and trouble. I
prospect and process my own glaze materials here, and yesterday made up a
bucket of volcanic ash cream, to use at 06-04. I poured in a little high
fire text., and now have a nice creamy..gave it the warmth it
needed.....don't have any rutile down here with me...the high fire text. by
itself or in combination works better for me at low fire than the one
specifically for low fire. Hope you'll experiment, this is a good product
to play with...I don't try to copy reduction/wood fire looks, but it's nice
to have more options in
oxidation."_________________________________________________________________
_____________
Llewellyn Kouba on sat 13 jan 01
Dear Carol,
Thanks again for your letter and interests in Amaco texturizers. I have
primarily been working with cone 9- 10 glazes here in gas reduction firing
but a year or so ago I installed an Amaco Electric kiln to help speed up my
bisque process and do some fun with majolica (which I like too and took a
workshop in) and although I still have MUCH to do yet in the way of glaze
testing and developing glazes for the lower (cone 6 or so) cone ranges I am
excited about the possibility of the Amaco terxturizers. I would also love
to know what the components are in this glaze and as you say that is
difficult when it comes from a commercial source and naturally would have
guarded secrets etc. Anyway I prefer really to mix my own glazes where
possible and have enough background to do that but am no scientific genius
when it comes to glaze seger formulas or analysis beyond my usual simple
'eye appeal' or alchemist approaches although I am trying to learn more as
I go along in the studio years.
I will indeed keep your post and try and get back to you from time to time
about my progress and finding and hope you can do the same.
Sincerely in clay,
Llewellyn Kouba
At 02:25 PM 1/12/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>LLewellyn and Melinda:
>
>Thanks for responding......I have not used the texturizer under a glaze yet,
>just over. I did some tests on top of a clear glaze which I applied over
>Amaco Velvet Underglazes. The results looked better over warm colors, but
>I'm making that judgment based on small 2x3" test tiles. I'm sure the
>results would vary depending on the glaze used and the application
>thickness.. The effect of the Texturizer was to make the glaze surface
>somewhat pearly or mottled.....I love the variation in color which
>happens in Cone10 Reduction glazes, and the Texturizer takes the Cone 6
>glazes I have used a baby step in that direction. So trying it over a clear
>glaze on top of an underglaze was just another experiment to see what would
>happen.
>
> I'm hoping someone will have a suggestion about possible components in the
>Texturizer. I'd like to mix up some tests using some Cone 6 clear glaze
>recipes from Clayart , and then extend their possibilities as Texturizers
>with the additions of rutile
>and whatever else is needed.(an opacifier?) I'll let you know what happens
>in my next batch of test tiles. Please let me know whatever happens for you.
>Thanks!
>
>Carol, in a still cold Indiana
>
>LLewellyn Kouba wrote:
>"I have also recently purchased some of the texturizers in the rutile base
>but haven't gotten a chance to try them out yet. I originally thought they
>were to be mixed into a glaze but also have a friend down the street who has
>used them for years and as an 'under' she gets some very nice greens but has
>been guarded as to exactly what colors she uses and the overglaze could be
>any 'other' cone 6 glaze so the sky is the limit. "
>
>Melinda Collins wrote:
>"I have used Amaco texturizers for years, both high-6- and low-06-they make
>both. In a neutral atmosphere, they don't work for my glazes...they will
>sort of shrivel up over the glaze, or under it...but in ox., they do great
>to add mottled texture..I havenot tried to make my own, having sort of a
>life-time supply here with me...but it is worth the money..one jar goes a
>long way, unless you do production work..I used to spray it, thinned, over
>my c.6 glazes and it works very well. By itself,
>over white stoneware, it makes a strong orange, which I find interesting
>with a tenmoku at 04...I can more or less duplicate a wood-fired look with
>oranges, blacks, whites, etc on one pot without a lot of time and trouble. I
>prospect and process my own glaze materials here, and yesterday made up a
>bucket of volcanic ash cream, to use at 06-04. I poured in a little high
>fire text., and now have a nice creamy..gave it the warmth it
>needed.....don't have any rutile down here with me...the high fire text. by
>itself or in combination works better for me at low fire than the one
>specifically for low fire. Hope you'll experiment, this is a good product
>to play with...I don't try to copy reduction/wood fire looks, but it's nice
>to have more options in
>oxidation."_________________________________________________________________
>_____________
>
>______________________________________________________________________________
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>
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>
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>melpots@pclink.com.
Marianne Bornet on sun 21 jan 01
Could someone please give me the code number for this Amaco texturiser? I've
tried to find it on various suppliers websites but to no avail. The problem
being that I don't know what I'm looking for. I assume that it's something
different from the textured glazes ?
Thanks in advance
Marianne
lurking in the lovely sunny South of France (still soggy though!)
Jean Cappadonna Nichols on mon 22 jan 01
Marianne,
The # for Amaco texturizer is TL-1 in Amaco's catalog. To request a catalog
contact:
American Art Clay Co., Inc.
4717 W. Sixteenth St.
Indianapolis, IN 46222, USA
or call:
1-800 374 1600
or fax:
317 248 9300
Texturizer can be used under, over or between any Cone 06-05 glazes to create
different textures.
Good luck,
Jean Cappadonna-Nichols
debkaplan3 on mon 22 jan 01
Marianne,
Amaco has what is called "Hi-Fire Texturizers", one is rutile based for
yellowish/orange crstal-type texture, & one iron oxide based for a dark
brown effect with texture. I don't know if this is conveinent but you can
order from Ceramic Supply, Lodi NJ, 1-800-723-7264. My bottle says for use
with any cone 5 glazes, but the catalog description says good with any high
fire glaze.
Good luck
Debbie
cold snowy beautifully sunny New Jersey
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Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 8:44 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: Amaco Texturizers
Could someone please give me the code number for this Amaco texturiser?
I've
tried to find it on various suppliers websites but to no avail. The problem
being that I don't know what I'm looking for. I assume that it's something
different from the textured glazes ?
Thanks in advance
Marianne
lurking in the lovely sunny South of France (still soggy though!)
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Gretchen Woodman on mon 22 jan 01
Marianne,
There are two texturizers that you can get from Amaco.
the first is TH-1. The catalog description is: This is
a rutile-based texturizer. It produces a
yellowish/orange crystal type texture when applied
over or under most HF Series glazes.
The second texturizer is TH-2 It is an iron oxide
base texturizer. It has a dark brown glaze effect when
applied over or under most HF Series glazes.
The catalog I am looking at is:
Great Lakes Clay & Supply Company
120 S. Lincoln Avenue
Carpentersville, Illinois 60110
Their E-Mail is: GREATCLAY@GREATCLAY.COM
Phone: 800-258-8796
or
847-551-1070
Good Luck!
Gretchen W
--- Marianne Bornet wrote:
> Could someone please give me the code number for
> this Amaco texturiser? I've
> tried to find it on various suppliers websites but
> to no avail. The problem
> being that I don't know what I'm looking for. I
> assume that it's something
> different from the textured glazes ?
> Thanks in advance
> Marianne
> lurking in the lovely sunny South of France (still
> soggy though!)
>
>
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Mayssan1@AOL.COM on mon 22 jan 01
Dear Marianne:
You can go to www.amaco.com and take a look at all their products :)
Mayssan
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